HOA fine residents over flying American flag. What have we been fighting for? Freedom! We can't even fly our own flag. Thoughts?

SPC Nick Lai — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:04:33 -0400

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/10/04/utah-hoa-fines-residents-flying-american-flag

Utah HOA Fines Residents for Flying American Flags

Homeowners in Murray, Utah, are being fined for flying the American Flag.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2015 4:08 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:08:23 -0400

While I think it is disgusting, I must point out that when a person buys a home where there is an HOA the person agrees to obey the rules of the HOA.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2015 4:14 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:14:00 -0400

I specifically bought a home without an HOA. I will not accept someone telling me what I can or can't do on my property. I understand neighborhood aesthetics, but when they tell you not to fly the American, State, or Military flags... I will have a problem with those marxist associations.

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 4 at 2015 4:23 PM

MSgt Curtis Ellis — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:23:21 -0400

When one buys into the HOA, isn't this particular rule a rule already known prior? (I've heard this particular one many times) If so, then what the home owners are doing, and I hate to admit it, is wrong and they should be fined... This isn't about the HOA being unpatriotic, it's about home owners deciding not to follow rules they themselves agreed to... And are using patriotism to justify noncompliance...

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Oct 4 at 2015 4:36 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 16:36:47 -0400

It is very sad that Homeowner Associations are opposed to residents flying the flag of the U.S.A. SPC Nick Lai.
It is one thing if the HOA bans all flags. In that case flying a flag outside violates the HOA policy. Homeowners should seek exceptions to policy in that case.
It is certainly outrageous if the HOA discriminates against the flag of the U.S.A. only.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2015 8:06 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 20:06:04 -0400

HOAs are legalized racketeering outfits, and need to be made illegal.

How does it make ANY sense for you to PAY a community to restrict your rights?

I will NEVER live in a HOA community again. Did that ONCE. Never again!

Response by SN Greg Wright made Oct 5 at 2015 12:02 AM

SN Greg Wright — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:02:39 -0400

SPC Nick Lai I think that might violate some rights, there. Makes me want to move there and fly a flag though, just as a 'fuck you'.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Oct 5 at 2015 1:07 AM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 01:07:34 -0400

I am so tired of hearing stories like this one. HOA's should have a limit to what they can and cannot do.

Response by SSG John Jensen made Oct 5 at 2015 1:47 PM

SSG John Jensen — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:47:58 -0400

the purpose of HOAs (in their own minds) is always to sell units, and to do that (in their own minds) neighborhoods must always look as if nobody lives there

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Oct 5 at 2015 2:13 PM

MSgt Michael Smith — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:13:09 -0400

HOAs are the worst. They get away with things like this because the home owners all have a vote on policies. You can't fight them. You sign a contract when you buy your home, and that contract binds you to the covenants. Try to fight the HOA and you will lose. And even if you win, you still are going to spend a lot of money.

Response by SPC Greg K. made Oct 5 at 2015 2:20 PM

SPC Greg K. — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:20:02 -0400

Get the residents together and vote to disolve the HOA.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Oct 5 at 2015 2:30 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:30:59 -0400

The article is incomplete. It gives a one sided view, and the standard line of "for the troops". What is the real reason? Is it because someone put up an ISIS flag, so to make it fair ALL had to come down? That would make sense. I'd like to see a more complete story. Not a dig at you SPC Nick Lai, just the way the article was written.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2015 2:53 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:53:21 -0400

when I shopping for me first home ... "no HOA right?". that is my first question. no matter how nice the price and house looks ... I walk away from a HOA area.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2015 3:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:10:04 -0400

I've shed blood for this flag, so I think I have all the right in the world to fly it! The HOA can kiss my A!

Response by SFC Bill Graham made Oct 7 at 2015 6:50 PM

SFC Bill Graham — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:50:16 -0400

Every American should proudly and properly display our flag. No hesitation, no reservation and absolutely no apology.. and no one can tell me differently.

Response by MSgt John Taylor made Oct 7 at 2015 7:03 PM

MSgt John Taylor — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:03:55 -0400

Unless you were assigned a home with a HOA, then abide by the rules. Sounds like they have enough support to have the flag deemed as "not a decoration." I'm tired of hearing about HOA's restrict this or that, "I'm a vet" ect. Do not buy a home with a HOA! I served to protect my freedom, why would I hand that over to a d-bag neighbor?

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2015 10:05 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 22:05:59 -0400

Why I bought a house in a NON-HOA hood. Tired of battling un-American sentiment. I proudly fly my flags and post my "We don't call 911" sign. The neighbors love it.

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Oct 8 at 2015 2:39 AM

SrA Matthew Knight — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 02:39:48 -0400

I can't take anything that organization does or says seriously. The HOA needs to be banned itself because the organizations rules over people living in those communities is an infringement on freedom. If I bought the house and property it sits on then I will do what I damn well please on it so long as it doesn't affect my neighbors. Anyone doesn't like it can take there opinions and place them you know where. When it comes to showing patriotism in the form of flying our nation's colors or displaying any other national symbol then even the neighbors get no say. My countries flag offends you then you better move because I sure as hell won't and I won't take it down either.

Response by PO3 William Weaver made Oct 9 at 2015 7:40 AM

PO3 William Weaver — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 07:40:18 -0400

Where do they think they live? What country do they live in, under the protection of?

Response by SP5 Mark Kuzinski made Oct 18 at 2015 10:51 AM

SP5 Mark Kuzinski — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 10:51:23 -0400

This HOA has gone off the deep end. This crap has got to stop - "Now"!!!