How can I fight a ASAP failure chapter?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Aug 2019 07:42:16 -0400

Is there any way I can fight being chaptered for failing ASAP? What kind of discharge is it?

Response by SGT Javier Silva made Aug 19 at 2019 8:43 AM

SGT Javier Silva — Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:43:56 -0400

PFC Private RallyPoint Member Did you fail ASAP?

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Aug 19 at 2019 9:27 AM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:27:26 -0400

It’s case-by-case. I’ve had boards retain soldiers who are good If you relapsed twice then I doubt there's any fight left in your dog.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2019 9:32 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:32:45 -0400

You generally can't. It's up to your command. Technically it rests at the Brigade commander discretion. If you don't have six years of service you can't request a separation board to fight it either.
You'd have to convince your command that you're worth saving and fighting for.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 19 at 2019 12:45 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:45:17 -0400

So I'm going to tell you an unspoken, well known secret.....
Chains of Command have a bit of latitude when it comes to whether or not they will actively pursue a chapter. First instinct is generally not too, because it's a paperwork hassle. It eats a lot of time and effort.
BLUF: If your unit is actively chaptering you, you've been identified as a burden, and you need to go. If you fight and stay, be prepared for EVERYTHING to go on paper so another chapter can be pursued. BLUF PS: Learn from this and move on. Do some soul searching. Don't burden your unit and the Army in general with your BS. Your leadership is busy enough as it is. They don't need someone who isn't value added.

Response by CSM William Everroad made Aug 20 at 2019 11:08 AM

CSM William Everroad — Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:08:04 -0400

Without knowing more of your story, I have to look at it from the point of view of your command. You made a bad choice and were given the opportunity to continue being a valued member of the team by completing ASAP. You made another bad choice in ASAP and failed to complete. If you go back to your counseling statements you should see that there are consequences to those actions resulting in separation for failure to maintain standards.
You may have a leg to stand on if you were a self-referral. The only recourse you have now is to reach out to your NCO support channel to get in a room with the commander and plead your case.
If you are separated, I think is is characterized as an OTH.