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I am wanting to transfer from the United States Army Reserve to the United States Army National Guard can someone explain how it works?
North Carolina ARNG
Inter-Service
Posted 7 y ago
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Contact a National Guard Recruiter and start the process of enlisting. Then you will need to be Conditionally Released from the USAR for the purpose of enlisting in the ARNG. You will need to get with your UA or Personnel NCO to get that started. The packet needs to go through your chain of command and be approved by the first GO in your chain. Once approved, you will have a set amount of days, usually 60 days, to join the ARNG. Once you sign a National Guard contract, you will be released from the Reserves effective the day you signed with the Guard. Make sure you give a copy of your new contract to your unit so they can process you out!
Keep in mind that through this whole process you are still obligated to fulfill your commitment to the Reserve including attending all drill and AT while you undergo the process. Also, your Reserve chain of command can and sometimes does reject your REQUEST. It is up to your command to release you or not and they are under no obligation to. I have seen it work both ways. I would say 6 out of ten requests for conditional release were approved to join other services or components.
Keep in mind that through this whole process you are still obligated to fulfill your commitment to the Reserve including attending all drill and AT while you undergo the process. Also, your Reserve chain of command can and sometimes does reject your REQUEST. It is up to your command to release you or not and they are under no obligation to. I have seen it work both ways. I would say 6 out of ten requests for conditional release were approved to join other services or components.
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SGT(P) Moose Liming
I just went through this process. The DD 368 that needs to be signed says it needs to be approved by your unit commander not GO. I had my BC sign it and then made completed the process with NG recruiter. Now apparently I have pissed of the reserve unit because I just showed them the DD368 and DD4 I signed with the NG. HRC has already placed me into the NG unit though without discharge orders from the reserve unit. Not sure if that is normal or did someone at HRC go the extra mile without orders. So now I am in limbo. I am not showing up as part of the reserve unit and not showing up fully on the gaining unit. Very weird.
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MSG (Join to see)
SGT(P) Moose Liming the problem is a discharge is a GO level approval, so the NG messed up when they enlisted you. A BN CDR cannot authorize your discharge from the USAR, that is illegal. A BDE CDR cannot even do that. Until a GO approves, you are going to be in limbo.
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I think you should go to the recruiter of your local Army Guard unit. He/she will be able to explain the rules and get you started on your transfer.
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USARC G1 is the approval authority, but has to be endorsed by your chain of command. If you have completed IET and paid a bonus you will have to pay it back if the release is approved. Honestly, it is a slim chance getting a transfer approved to go from the USAR to the ARNG, and vice versa, because they are both reserve components- one being federal and one being state. Both expect their members to honor their contracts. It is even difficult to get released to go Active from either the USAR or ARNG. Expect to have to explain your reasons. Extreme financial hardship is the most common reason for requests for release for active, but not really a valid reason to transfer to another part time component. You will need a valid reason for a release from your contract to be favorably considered.
BTW-There is no such thing as the United States Army National Guard, it is a state component.
BTW-There is no such thing as the United States Army National Guard, it is a state component.
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MSgt Carl Stokes
"no such thing as the ARMY NATIONAL GUARD" its a state componant - yea what state is Iraq? cause plenty of them NG fukers fought there.
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SFC J Fullerton
MSgt Carl Stokes - Of course a state ARNG can be federalized. But unless it is, it is under the command of the governor of that state. Of course you know that already. Not sure what you are trying argue.
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CSM (Join to see)
I do not believe that the statement "There is no such thing as the United States Army National Guard" is accurate. Members of the various state and territorial National Guards are simultaneously members of the United States National Guard, which comprises the organized militia of the United States as established by Title 10 USC section 246. In real-world use, references to "the US Army National Guard" are certainly less common than references to the National Guard of a specific state, the District of Columbia, or territories. But you'll see it if you're looking, even on official military sites such as this one: https://www.army.mil/nationalguard. Or on this page, which is copyrighted by the United States Army National Guard: https://www.nationalguard.com/careers/.
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SSG (Join to see)
The Army National Guard is the Army National Guard. It is both federally and state funded, it has both federal and state missions, follows Army Regulations, is tried under UCMJ, can go to ft Leavenworth, gets paid title 10 over seas, has been in all the same United States conflicts since active duty was created, and has active duty Soldiers as well, like myself. And though we are the only branch with the additional duty of aiding, protecting, and defending the United States on home soil, if we have a deployment coming up, we won’t be held back because of a natural disaster or terrorist activity happening within our state (I.e. 9-11), we have 10,000 Soldiers in New York State alone that can cover down on that emergency so the deploying unit can still fulfill their mission. And additional Soldiers in the adjoining states if need be (like in the case of Hurricane Katrina decimating New Orleans in 2005) Some states do have a volunteer force that call themselves the “New York Guard” for example, however, they are not the National Guard.
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