CPT Private RallyPoint Member 1698367 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-97626"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-you-evaluate-potential%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+you+evaluate+Potential%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-you-evaluate-potential&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do you evaluate Potential?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-you-evaluate-potential" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="dbd3beb130edd52ab07af6b978b6494b" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/097/626/for_gallery_v2/fa642c75.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/097/626/large_v3/fa642c75.jpg" alt="Fa642c75" /></a></div></div>I have always heard that we don&#39;t promote on performance but potential. I don&#39;t think that it is that simple. I have yet to find anyone that is a &quot;Meet the Stands&quot; type of soldier excel when they were promoted. But so often we try to gauge their ability to perform at a higher level. To me this is about as close as you can get to assess their potential. But so often we assume that a regular person that can simply perform their duties has potential. I don&#39;t buy that. The Peter principle comes to mind when thinking about that. <br /><br />What have you do to assess this? Is there anything that you recommend? What about anything that you have done that didn&#39;t work as you thought it would?<br /><br />We all know that as a Senior Rater we have to look at being that soldier a numeral rating when writing their NCOER and that everyone can&#39;t be a 1. How do you evaluate Potential? 2016-07-07T22:27:08-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 1698367 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-97626"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-you-evaluate-potential%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+you+evaluate+Potential%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-you-evaluate-potential&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do you evaluate Potential?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-you-evaluate-potential" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="fe650eabbf33a927fba988148e2153bf" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/097/626/for_gallery_v2/fa642c75.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/097/626/large_v3/fa642c75.jpg" alt="Fa642c75" /></a></div></div>I have always heard that we don&#39;t promote on performance but potential. I don&#39;t think that it is that simple. I have yet to find anyone that is a &quot;Meet the Stands&quot; type of soldier excel when they were promoted. But so often we try to gauge their ability to perform at a higher level. To me this is about as close as you can get to assess their potential. But so often we assume that a regular person that can simply perform their duties has potential. I don&#39;t buy that. The Peter principle comes to mind when thinking about that. <br /><br />What have you do to assess this? Is there anything that you recommend? What about anything that you have done that didn&#39;t work as you thought it would?<br /><br />We all know that as a Senior Rater we have to look at being that soldier a numeral rating when writing their NCOER and that everyone can&#39;t be a 1. How do you evaluate Potential? 2016-07-07T22:27:08-04:00 2016-07-07T22:27:08-04:00 SSG Derrick L. Lewis MBA, C-HRM 1698373 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="38789" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/38789-11a-infantry-officer-2nd-bct-101st-abn">CPT Private RallyPoint Member</a> ,<br />I simply look in the mirror and determine that to be the standard bearer for the next Soldier to emulate. Response by SSG Derrick L. Lewis MBA, C-HRM made Jul 7 at 2016 10:28 PM 2016-07-07T22:28:41-04:00 2016-07-07T22:28:41-04:00 SSG Derrick L. Lewis MBA, C-HRM 1698391 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="38789" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/38789-11a-infantry-officer-2nd-bct-101st-abn">CPT Private RallyPoint Member</a> ,<br />I kid, I kid. Great thought provoking question. It is rather difficult to determine such factors as there is no standard delineation or fine line in what constitutes potential, as actions vary in which evaluators will base their evaluations on what aligns within the arena of demonstrated potential through their perspectives. It could range from starting up programs within the organization, to exceptional duty performance. Response by SSG Derrick L. Lewis MBA, C-HRM made Jul 7 at 2016 10:33 PM 2016-07-07T22:33:18-04:00 2016-07-07T22:33:18-04:00 SSG Roderick Smith 1698633 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="38789" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/38789-11a-infantry-officer-2nd-bct-101st-abn">CPT Private RallyPoint Member</a>, I think potential can be assessed in a number of ways. Obviously, a SM's understanding of thier service and job is a big part of it. If you can't do your job, what good are you? Their ability to learn, adapt, and problem solve are three more big areas for me as well. The final piece is the drive to be successful at a higher level. Response by SSG Roderick Smith made Jul 7 at 2016 11:40 PM 2016-07-07T23:40:27-04:00 2016-07-07T23:40:27-04:00 MSG Pat Colby 1698753 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I witnessed MANY Reservists get promoted that had NO business being NCO's. TIG &amp; TIS had to factor in just to keep a warm body in the system. More often than not, if you just show up sober and not hungover, you are already better than many of your peers. Response by MSG Pat Colby made Jul 8 at 2016 12:31 AM 2016-07-08T00:31:38-04:00 2016-07-08T00:31:38-04:00 SGM Mikel Dawson 1698779 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was a S. Rater, I would evaluate a person on how they failed, picked themselves up and continued on. Not totally, but by evaluating the failure and success I could see what potential they had. Did they over come the set back? Were they able to achieve the goal? Potential is a tough nut to crack. I've seen soldiers with great potential at the Jr. NCO level, and then fall/almost fail at the Sr. NCO level. Not many, but a few, and they were rated high on potential. Sometimes I wonder if some failure is needed to help a soldier find their "potential"? <br />No, failure wasn't the only thing I rated potential on , but it was an insight I thought was important. <br />Thoughts?? Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jul 8 at 2016 12:42 AM 2016-07-08T00:42:23-04:00 2016-07-08T00:42:23-04:00 SSG Roger Ayscue 1698825 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Honestly. That is it be as hard core honest as you can, it is the only way someone will improve. Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 8 at 2016 1:04 AM 2016-07-08T01:04:27-04:00 2016-07-08T01:04:27-04:00 Cpl Jeff N. 1699085 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are promoting on potential alone, you are making a terrible mistake. There is no substitute for results and performance. The best indicator of future performance or behavior is past performance or behavior. As Churchill said "No matter how grand the strategy you must occasionally look at the results". <br /><br />People that exhibit solid results in a job/position over time may have a "stretch" role identified for them to see if they have the ability to make that jump. Assessing potential and promoting on it, if done incorrectly is simply promoting people that are not ready and do not demonstrate skills required for the job. It is promotion based more on feeling than results. Potential is a very speculative game and some use it to avoid doing the hard work of serious evaluation and coaching/development of people. In the business world can have very negative outcomes on revenues, profitability, performance, morale etc. In the armed forces it could cost people their lives. Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Jul 8 at 2016 6:33 AM 2016-07-08T06:33:41-04:00 2016-07-08T06:33:41-04:00 CW5 Private RallyPoint Member 1699132 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The problem is that the new system limits you on your ratings (of NCOs). If, by regulation, the evaluation is supposed to stand on its own, be an evaluation of the rated Soldier only and only during the rating period, why are we then comparing them with their peers when assigning block checks? <br /><br />The answer, to make it easier for the board to evaluate people without having to read the evals. If we had better promotion board and evaluation process, I believe we could give our leaders better tools to define potential. It is hard to describe that in the old form using bullets (unlimited potential, yeah, ok) and even harder in the new form when they gave us tiny spaces to write in.<br /><br />Evaluations are no longer (and maybe never were) an effective leader developmental tool, IMO. Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2016 7:11 AM 2016-07-08T07:11:34-04:00 2016-07-08T07:11:34-04:00 SGT James Tyo 1699177 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, you asked...How do you evaluate Potential? My wife likes this subject and refers the oldest child. When he was in school his grades would falter midway and at the last minute he was able to dig in and bring the grade up. He has potential and it can be seen when you see his digging in. He chooses not to do the best he has potential for. He has potential to do better. Potential is something you see in someone and when we see it we must water it. Response by SGT James Tyo made Jul 8 at 2016 7:51 AM 2016-07-08T07:51:33-04:00 2016-07-08T07:51:33-04:00 Lt Col Jim Coe 1699598 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This IS a tough one. Your Service is asking you to make a judgement call that effects the life of other people. Here's some of the things I consider in evaluating leadership potential:<br />1. Past performance. Has the person demonstrated continued performance above the minimum standard? Do they show a level of expertise in their technical field expected for their current rank/grade? <br />2. Self improvement. Do they consistently strive to improve their technical and leadership capabilities? Have they taken opportunities to gain additional education? Have they completed both required and desired training?<br />3. Leading. Do they naturally seek opportunities to lead? Have they demonstrated leadership when the opportunities are available? Are the results of their leadership equal to or better than the required standard? Do they generate an unusually high number of complaints to EO/EEO/IG about their leadership style, techniques, practices?<br />4. Communication. Do they write well? Do they speak well? Are their presentations, written or oral, well organized and based on logical development from the presented facts. Do they communicate effectively and with respect to persons of both higher and lower rank/grade.<br />5. Handling stress. Do they handle stressful situations with an appropriate level of action and emotion?<br />6. Milestones. Have they successfully met all the Service mandated or recommended milestones for promotion (years in grade and service, completion of PME, diverse assignments, deployments, positions of authority and responsibility)?<br /><br />All of these tests apply at various levels of importance depending on the rank or grade of the person you are evaluating. It's up to you to rank-order the things I listed. For example, technical capability, self improvement, and communication my be more important than meeting milestones or handling stress for a person advancing from E-4 to E-5. Communication, Leading, and Handling Stress may be most important for a person advancing from E-7 to E8. Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Jul 8 at 2016 10:38 AM 2016-07-08T10:38:44-04:00 2016-07-08T10:38:44-04:00 SFC Richard Giles 1701596 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Potential is a hard thing to gauge. It's like a crap shoot, you throw the dice sometimes you win sometimes you lose. And I hate losing. But I feel like if you get to know your Soldiers, know what their habits are, how they react to different circumstances, keep them motivated and headed in the right direction and most importantly in my mind setting the right example for them to follow. Then you will be able to gauge what their potential is.<br />I also agree with some of the other comments posted about the NCOER not being a very good leadership tool. Me personally I think we need to get back to the "job books" we used to have for the job performance section and use the NCOER just for leadership skills. Response by SFC Richard Giles made Jul 9 at 2016 12:43 AM 2016-07-09T00:43:41-04:00 2016-07-09T00:43:41-04:00 2016-07-07T22:27:08-04:00