How does being flagged impact your time in grade, as well as automatic promotion?

Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:56:29 -0400

I was promoted in November of 2020 and then I was flagged in January of 2021 due to failing tape. I hit my 24 month mark in May and was not able to pin SPC due to the flag. The flag was removed in July and I was told that I would be automatically promoted this month. However, I am now being told that TIG pauses/resets when a flag is initiated. After reviewing 600-8-19, I have not been able to find anything that supports or refutes this. I have 27 months TIS and 9 months TIG as an E3, so should I be eligible for automatic promotion or does the TIG pause/reset when a flag is initiated. Any information is appreciated. Thank you

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2021 3:26 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:26:06 -0400

It is not automatic. Your Commander still needs to sign the 4187 authorizing your advancement.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2021 3:28 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:28:03 -0400

Your TIG does not reset, that's some weird urban legend that junior S1 Soldiers spit out because they can't figure out why you didn't automatically promote. When you have met the TIS and TIG requirements and you are eligible for promotion, you can be promoted to SPC. Your Company Commander must fill out the 4187 promoting you and your S1 must manually promote you.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Aug 18 at 2021 5:01 PM

SGT Charles Bartell — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:01:37 -0400

Having been flagged has no effect on time in grade what so ever. Having the flag removed opens you back for promotion and awards and schools. Whoever told you that TIG is reset . Needs to show you the regulations on that. I would bet that he or she ether mad that up or was told by anther that does not know themselves.
However Date of rank and time in service does change when you get out then com back in.
Also your time in service does change if you have time in the Reserve's of National Guard.
That is configured by how much you went to drill and A.T. plus any additional time at ether to include Basic, And A.I.T.

Response by SFC Kim Armstrong made Aug 18 at 2021 8:46 PM

SFC Kim Armstrong — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 20:46:00 -0400

Hello
First of all what rank are you going too?. Secondly if you are flagged you will not get promoted despite it being automatic. Remember promotion from E1 to E6 is up to the commander. I am sure your flagged paperwork has been sent to Human Resources.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Aug 18 at 2021 9:42 PM

SSG Brian G. — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 21:42:32 -0400

Being flagged does not affect your Time in Grade, Time in Service, your accrual of leave time or your pay. Some barracks lawyer wannabe told you that crap about TIG and flags. Just because you hit your 24 month mark as E-3 does not mean that you automatically pin on E-4. The 24 month mark is a minimum, meaning that a commander can require you go longer before he submits a 4187 for your promotion.

Response by SSG Oscar Medina made Aug 19 at 2021 8:45 AM

SSG Oscar Medina — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:45:08 -0400

No it doesn’t pauses it continues so yes you should be promoted the following month of the flag being removed. Talk to HR first before you talk to IG because someone is not doing their job.

Response by CSM Danny S. made Aug 20 at 2021 12:37 PM

CSM Danny S. — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 12:37:45 -0400

The flag is what caused you the problem. You need to make sure it has been removed from the system and not just someone telling you it is gone. Then you need to run this up your NCO support channel. You don't have to be promoted because you meet all the criteria for the next rank. If someone is holding this up you should be counseled on why this is happening. Keep working this up the chain until you get promoted or you get the reason why your not getting promoted.

Response by SFC Edmund Garrard made Aug 31 at 2021 6:35 PM

SFC Edmund Garrard — Tue, 31 Aug 2021 18:35:41 -0400

First think I would do is make sure that the flag has been removed Have S-1 check and make sure that the flag has been lifted