How will a DUI 5 years ago affect future promotions or retention?

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I got a DUI as a new SGT and received a GOMOR and a negative 1059 for it being at a school. What are my odds at promoting through the ranks? I am promotable to SSG and will most likely pick up next month but what can I expect after that? Centralized boards?

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Jul 17 at 2022 2:31 PM

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MSG Private RallyPoint Member thoughts?
In the AF much depends on your commander and your duty performance. I saw enlisted have early DUIs and go on to E7 or E8.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2022 2:37 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member Here is a previous post:

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-will-a-dui-affect-my-chances-at-making-e7

How will a DUI affect my chances at making E7? | RallyPoint

I have a DUI from 5 years ago as a Sergeant while I was on the trail at Ft.leonardwood. I received a RFC and a GOMOR. I had the GOMOR moved into my restricted but the RFC still remains in my performance folder. How will this affect my chances at promotion. I've had good evals and kept Mt nose clean since the incident.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2022 3:24 PM

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5 years ago? Your odds are better as a SGT than what they'd be if you were a SSG. Depending on where the stuff was filed, it could sting or not.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Jul 17 at 2022 4:09 PM

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It may jam you up a little. But with it being 5+ years ago and assuming you have been stellar since then you should be headed in the right direction. But it will certainly be a conversation you’ll have with someone along the way.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2022 3:06 AM

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Could still create problems later on. The good thing is it appears your squared away now!

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 18 at 2022 8:57 AM

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If you have been performing well and are motivated to continue to do so then the odds are more or less based on your competition. Your records have to stack up to thiers.

It would not hurt for you to take on challenges like competitive NCO boards, Sgt Morales, Audie Murphy etc.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2022 9:24 AM

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Based on what I've heard from SGMs who sat on boards -it ultimately depends on who is looking at your file and how they are critiquing people. For some people, a DUI is a hard no regardless how long ago it was. For others, if it was one time and you have been a stellar performer they may not factor it as high. It's just really going to depend on who is on the board when your time comes to be looked at for SFC.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2022 10:19 AM

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You should definitely sit down and read the information on HRC Enlisted Promotions page on how centralized boards work and how you are graded. Then review your professional development map and review the da Pam for what your MOS requires for critical development time.

Speaking to SGMs who have sat on the board, the further distance between you and the GOMOR the better you'll be rated. However, it's there forever and every single board member must review it. You can probably get the GOMOR moved to your restricted file, but it's still going to be on your 1059.

Aside from the GOMOR itself, the DUI will prevent you from taking certain broadening assignments you may need to be more competitive than your peers for promotion

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jul 18 at 2022 2:07 PM

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Everyone agrees you're better off without it. Having sat boards (all have to comply with DoD Inst.) the time aspect plays, but only to a point. Being junior when it happens also helps. The reality is, unless you're a water walker, you won't get picked up at first crunch, who knows at second crunch, and a long necked turkey around Thanksgiving on third crunch. That's where the remaining zoned competition needs to underwhelm the board members vs. your record. What happens in the finishing stages of of the third crunch, the board collectively asks themselves "is there a record better than this last one on the select list"? It's similar to the minority and female question that's scrubbed, but reported vs. non minorities. It's so up in the air, Vegas won't post odds on this one.