How would you deal with North Korea?

2017-05-18T11:13:36-04:00

On of the local radio morning shows had a guest from a Washington Libertarian thinktank (Downsize DC) on that stated the way to deal w/ NK is to just expose them to western culture.

Does this guy not think that we've been trying to do this for some time now? Does he not realize that Un has absolute & complete control of his people? Anytime someone is even thought of trying to find out about the west, there are mass executions, or people just disappear. How do you expose a nation to your culture when there's really only one city in NK w/ power, and all info in that city is strictly controlled?

A caller asked him at what time has the US ever successfully changed a cult - which is, essentially, what NK is right now. The guest, conveniently, didn't have time to answer the question.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made May 18 at 2017 11:14 AM

2017-05-18T11:14:28-04:00

Pressure China to handle the situation or something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olvt2MMjznA

UN Ambassador Haley Speaks to the Press on North Korea - 5/16/17

Ambassador Haley's Remarks at a Joint Press Availability Before UN Security Council Consultations on North Korea - 5/16/17

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made May 18 at 2017 11:31 AM

2017-05-18T11:31:08-04:00

I think one can deal with him without Regime change. The fact is that his grandfather, father and now Un would throw the crazy act and somehow manage to get concessions from the major powers. I think that even China is sick of the act, which is threatening it's relationship with it's two largest economic partners in the region, S.Korea and Japan. Maybe this would be a good place for an MOAB over Un's residence. A missile hitting Khaddafi's compound seemed to have changed his attitude about starting trouble.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2017 11:45 AM

2017-05-18T11:45:56-04:00

We should deal only with China. We do this by asking them to resolve the situation first. Then we shut off the port of Los Angeles to them and do not allow any cargo from China to enter our Country.
From US Today: The U.S. shipped $116 billion of goods to China in 2016, making it the third largest export market after Canada and Mexico, according to the Department of Commerce. But that figure pales compared to the $463 billion in imports from China. The result is a U.S. trade deficit of $347 billion, the largest of any U.S. trading partner.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/99989116/

U.S.-China trade scorecard: advantage China

President Trump plans to prod China's president this week to make trade relations more balanced.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made May 18 at 2017 12:04 PM

2017-05-18T12:04:39-04:00

Hard to boycott them while trying to open factories there. Hyundai and Samsung have no reservations about employing North Korean labor to undercut South Korean wages. It is easy enough not to buy a Hyundai but Samsung has a near monopoly in some products

Response by SGT Edward Wilcox made May 18 at 2017 1:19 PM

2017-05-18T13:19:44-04:00

China has proven themselves unwilling, or unable, to reign in North Korea. It saddens me to think this, but I believe the only way to deal with North Korea, once and for all can be summed up in 2 words: Carpet Bombing.

Response by SSgt John Carter made May 18 at 2017 1:21 PM

2017-05-18T13:21:18-04:00

Blockade them, isolate them, send in agents to off the fat boy.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made May 18 at 2017 1:31 PM

2017-05-18T13:31:02-04:00

If it was just me, I would talk to the Chinese and say, it is all yours and you need to get you new province in control but only because South Korea wants nothing to do with their cousins to the North? I think too many people give North Korea more concern than they deserve. North Korea does not have the economic power to oppose South Korea or Japan. Either nation would crush North Korea if it every tried to put bite to its bark AND the North Koreans KNOW this.
To boil it down to the simplest terms, how do you deal with a the little dog next door that keeps barking? You can say something to the owners (China) but if they can't or won't do anything...and you can't or won't just crush the mutt..turn up the volume on the TV a little? It really does not do any good yelling at the dog, it actually gets the attention it is seeking?

Response by Maj Walter Kilar made May 18 at 2017 1:34 PM

2017-05-18T13:34:41-04:00

My opinion is by no means one of a subject matter expert, but I did spend one assignment at Osan Air Base, Republic of Korea and a handful of temporary duty assignments with the Army at Uijongbu. It is a foregone conclusion that a full-spectrum war due to invasion by DPRK (see OPLAN 5027 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPLAN_5027) would be disastrous for ROK and possibly Japan. The scenario that we exercise with an internal cout d'etat or externally forced regime change (see OPLAN 5029 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPLAN_5029) is what we should hope for. North Koreans who have escaped, as well as native South Koreans would prefer a coup d'état or externally forced regime change (check out this interview with escaped North Koreans as well as the other videos on this channel that have interviews with Japanese folks answering how they would deal with North Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFvtT6Gung).

In short, I would deal with North Korea by working with China to overthrow Kim Jong Un from within, incite riots within the KJU regime, and have the people rise up. The U.S., China, and South Korea would need to come in and stabilize North Korea afterwards. The U.S. and the Republic of Korea would prefer that the two nations unite, but China may push for North Korea to remain independent under a new leader. At first China may want that leader to be communist, but they may accept a democratic leader as long as they can exert their hegemony over an independent North Korea.

OPLAN 5027) - Wikipedia

Response by SSG Tom Pike made May 18 at 2017 2:29 PM

2017-05-18T14:29:30-04:00

First despite their rhetoric, North Korea is not going to nuke us. They know the end result would be their country in ashes.

I would ignore them and stop responding to their threats.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2017 5:41 PM

2017-05-18T17:41:24-04:00

Cut the head off the dragon. From what I've been able to find there isn't much in the way of a line of succession. With the way the little man has been offing people lately, it seems that it could be likely that NK could start a shift for the better in that case.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 18 at 2017 9:21 PM

2017-05-18T21:21:39-04:00

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member I think we're stuck with the Game His Father Started, They throw a Hissy Fit and we get them to behave for a while, Give them some Handouts and all is well until they throw the Next Hissy Fit.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Jun 2 at 2017 9:30 AM

2017-06-02T09:30:49-04:00

How would you deal with North Korea? I am tempted to quote Arnaud-Amaury, the Cistercian abbot-commander of Catholic force during is supposed to have been asked how to tell Cathars from Catholics. His reply, recalled by
Caesarius of Heisterbach, a fellow Cistercian thirty years later was "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius"—“Kill them all, the Lord will recognize His own!”