"I pay your salary." (What would be your response?)

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What is your typical response when civilians say to you "I pay your salary through taxes that I pay. Therefore you work for me and have to do what I say"?
My normal response is, "I pay taxes too. Want to see my LES (well, when I was active duty. Now it's my retiree pay statement, lol)? Does that mean I pay my own salary?"
Or I would ask them for a raise!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 1:45 PM

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What to throat punch

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 1:47 PM

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No being a professional gladly thank them and move on. I get cussed out as a recruiter get called names etc and I smile and drive on. I also get meals paid for, hand shakes etc so take it as an endearment and that they do not posses the intestinal fortitude to join the military themselves.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 1:55 PM

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But I pay my own salary too, not like I'm exempt from taxes......

Response by 1SG Steven Stankovich made Dec 27 at 2013 2:15 PM

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<p>"I pay your salary."  Classic defensive line that comes up when either (1) the person is wrong or (2) has run out of points to their stance/point of view/argument.  </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Either way, my usual response to this particular statement is "And my family thanks you for your support.  Not a day goes by that I do not appreciate the sacrifice that you have made for us."  Then I turn around and walk away.  I usually don't get many constructive responses after that...</p>

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Dec 27 at 2013 2:18 PM

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That's when you just look them square in the eyes and say "Thank you" then just remind them the reason they are sleeping in a nice warm secured house is because they pay your salary.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Dec 27 at 2013 3:00 PM

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I explain to them that we all pay taxes so in one way or another we all benefit from it. Now STFU and move away from me. 

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 3:42 PM

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I don't usually justify with a response, but if I'm forced to I remind them that *I*also pay federal taxes...

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Dec 27 at 2013 4:01 PM

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I ask them how much they paid in taxes last year.  They normally got a refund which means now they owe me.  Where can I send your bill?  ;-)

Response by SFC Stephen P. made Dec 27 at 2013 4:02 PM

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In the 16 years I've worn this uniform, I've never encountered that comment.

If I did, I would probably default to my preferred tactic of looking at them like they're stupid and not respond at all.

Response by SFC Thomas Chappell made Dec 27 at 2013 5:03 PM

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Being a professional and also a former recruiter, I would be nice and polite and thank them for their support and then tell them they are welcome and I appreciate their thanks for keeping them safe for the last 15 years. BUT... What I would be envisioning is blood running from their eyes, nose, mouth, and ears after I whipped the pompousness out of them. ;) Just sayin.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 6:50 PM

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Actually, my standard response when people said "Thank you for your service" was to say "Thank YOU for paying taxes, so I can fly Blackhawk helicopters for a living!!" <div><br></div><div>Thank you, taxpayers! I am still greatful! </div>

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 6:59 PM

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Professionalism is key. But if that's not your thing: "And I pay for your *insert random federally-subsidized benefit". You can really get creative here.

Response by CSM James Winslow made Dec 27 at 2013 7:47 PM

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S#!t. I pay my salary. Tell them that. I pay taxes just like they do.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2013 7:56 PM

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I say really?...walk a mile in my shoes...freedom isn't free and as far as I am concerned my brothers, sisters and I are worth every penny.

Response by Spc 1 J W. made Dec 27 at 2013 10:46 PM

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Almost 32 years of service here. I have never heard that directed at me. I have heard drunks or speeders talking to the police that way.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2013 7:10 AM

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"What a coincidence! So do I."

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Dec 28 at 2013 12:28 PM

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Usually I say .."well thank you very much, and as I pay taxes too, I help pay my own salary!". That normally shuts them the hell up, especially when I add "Have a nice day!".

Response by SSG Laureano Pabon made Dec 28 at 2013 1:55 PM

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PFC Dydasco, first above all I want to thank you for your service. Your service to me means I get to sleep at nights while your protecting me and my family from harms way. Fact is that I pay taxes, but so do you. What I pay is a very little price to pay for your great sacrifice. I find the same question being asked of police officers out here.

The only thing that comes to mind is the lack of knowledge those people have when asking a SM this question.

PFC Dydasco, I'm a veteran, but I was also a solider, I was never asked that question in my time, but I was ready to a response. When I was an enlisted member, what I did was read USC title 10, after reading that, I learned this was just 1 of 50 titles. Title 31 of USC Money and financial. I carefully reviewed each title from 1 to 50, at my personal time. You don't have to be a lawyer or an attorney to learn the laws of the land. But if you ever find some spare time, give your self this opportunity to become aware of them. In todays methods you can use the internet to find all the information you will need, except when the next war will start.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2013 2:16 PM

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I came in at the end of the Vietnam War and I heard that a lot and they would say you are dumb or inferior because only inferiors and criminals go in the military. And this kind of comment was common.

I just said, well I am a weather forecaster/Meteorologist. I say nothing else.

Response by Sgt Frank Martin made Dec 28 at 2013 5:58 PM

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Shoot, if they paid my salary for the 10 years I served, they should have given me a raise. And all that time I thought the government paid us. You all know the saying " You can't fix stupid".

Response by SPC David Beam made Dec 28 at 2013 7:29 PM

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I've heard it one time. My response was "I pay my salary too" and turned and walked away. No sense in arguing with somebody who stoop to saying something like that.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Dec 28 at 2013 11:28 PM

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If thats the case, then we must be self employed as we pay taxes also.

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Dec 29 at 2013 12:14 AM

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Never had anyone utter those words to me. However if someone had tried to use a line like that. I'd reach in my pocket find a penny and give them a refund plus interest considering how little of their tax bill actually went towards my specific salary. Most of the time the shock of something like that would leave them dumbfounded.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2013 3:20 AM

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I have had this problem. One woman said to me thanks for your service, the other woman said he should be thanking us, we pay his salary. I just smiled and thought to myself, you don't make enough to pay my salary, minimum wage doesn't count. I didn't say it to her face because I was at my Grandmothers funeral and wasn't in my right state of mind.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2013 8:23 AM

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I ask them how much they paid in Federal taxes and figure out a percentage of what I make and say you have x% of my interest with that statement.

Response by SGT John Lancaster made Dec 29 at 2013 11:27 AM

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Yes everyone that pays there taxes to the federal government helps pay for the salary of soldiers. That means you pay your salary also. Then you can compare that your salary is behind some civilians make. The over all is you are serving your country past present or future man or women. The debate will always be there.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2013 10:23 PM

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Odd...a few friends of mine died so that you could have your salary...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2014 11:11 AM

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The only time I ever got that line was from a 40 something sales clerk at a grocery store when I asked where something was located and he tacked it onto his explanation as to why he was too busy to show me where the item was at. This was in the late 80's when wage law was still $3.35 an hour. I just laughed at the thought of him owing any taxes and walked away without saying a word. He seemed REALLY confused when I did this. LOL

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2014 11:16 AM

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I can honestly say I have not. This type of situation actually happens?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2014 12:46 AM

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I pay my salary too.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 16 at 2014 12:59 AM

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"Thanks for the lethal force training"

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2014 7:48 PM

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If you're so proud about paying my salary, don't claim exemptions on your tax return.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made May 16 at 2015 2:07 AM

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I would just say "good luck with that." I only ever heard it once in anything but a joke.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 16 at 2015 2:12 AM

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I have heard this one, and I don't entertain such idiotic sayings. It's like hearing a child tell me they're not going to eat what I feed them.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 2:21 AM

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I have never had that said to me personally but I have seen that attitude displayed by civilian contractors and some DA civilians that I have encountered. Although I'm not sure whether it was due to that line of thinking in particular or the fact that they were retired and still felt that they were still in some way a part of my rating scheme.

Response by SFC Rollie Hubbard made May 16 at 2015 2:37 AM

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That works for me LOL

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 2:46 AM

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I would advise them to forward their request through the chain of command. The time and place for the civilian taxpayer "employer" is not to go directly to the service member. If they have concerns speak to their representatives.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 16 at 2015 2:47 AM

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Edit - I noticed that I said "I pay your taxes (instead of salary) through taxes that I pay..." I corrected it to alleviate any confusion the original question may have caused.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made May 16 at 2015 3:43 AM

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I pay taxes too... Its a vicious circle..

Response by SGT Justin Lamb made May 16 at 2015 4:35 AM

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PO1,
Ask them their 12 mile time and when they give you the deer in the headlights say.. Didn't think so.. Don't explain it just giggle.. Once is all it takes

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 6:31 AM

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I pay just as much of my own salary as you do in addition to serving so you can have the right to bitch about it

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 6:34 AM

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And through that logic, if you work at wallmart then that means that the guy who bought your shitty futon must be your boss then, right?

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made May 16 at 2015 6:36 AM

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I say that I also pay my salary. That usually causes a confused look from them.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 7:02 AM

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I think I would respond

And I have earned every penny of it. But, I work for the people placed over me in the chain of command up to the president. Take your beef up with them.

Response by COL Korey Jackson made May 16 at 2015 7:04 AM

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I initially respond with "Thank you for your contributions to our nation's defense."

Response by SPC David S. made May 16 at 2015 7:17 AM

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Usually I'll joke around about the fact that they pay me but I've never had someone tell me that before. Now, if I were to hear someone say that, my response would be "Yes, technically you do and technically I work for you and everyone else in America. As people of America, you have the right to vote. You choose who my boss is."

Response by SPC Chad Kolod made May 16 at 2015 7:57 AM

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I just laughed it off. People who say that don't deserve any more of a response!

Response by LCpl Cole Mitchell made May 16 at 2015 8:28 AM

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That's cool do you feel empowered?

Response by SGT David T. made May 16 at 2015 8:31 AM

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My usual responce is yes I work for you through your elected leaders.

Response by MAJ Ron Peery made May 16 at 2015 8:37 AM

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I never had that happen. But my response would depend on their attitude. If it was clearly a joke, I would grin and make a snide remark about county road crews, or some such thing. If they were serious, I'd probably laugh and walk away.

Response by SGT Joe Sabedra made May 16 at 2015 8:44 AM

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You are not qualified to give me orders.
Those that you pay within my structure are.

Response by PO3 Jonathan Cooper made May 16 at 2015 8:58 AM

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When I heard it, I asked if they ever got a tax refund. When they said yes, I told them they still owed me. Check. Mate.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made May 16 at 2015 8:59 AM

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I dig a bit of RPG out of my neck and hand it to them and say "There, were even".

Response by SPC Jeffrey Bly made May 16 at 2015 9:00 AM

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A great response could be, "We pay the Presidents salary too. You can see how well that's worked out for all of us!"

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 9:20 AM

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If they said it with attitude and are being unreasonable..."3 options, Sir/Ma'am: 1) Show me the Constitutional necessity of your request and it'll be taken care of immediately. 2) Run for president and come back to me after your inauguration with my orders. 3) I'll hook you up with one of the many great recruiters I know, and if you somehow make it from E-1 or O-1 to O-6 before I retire, I'll be happy to consider your request at that time. If I'm retired by that time, I'll just thank you for your service and move out smartly, like you should have done before starting this conversation." (No one has actually ever made the comment in question to me, but I've heard it said rudely to police officers.)

Response by Capt Richard I P. made May 16 at 2015 9:29 AM

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I've never heard that in person. I'd probably take the opportunity to teach about the fungibility of money and the national debt and deficit spending.

Response by CPO Jon Campbell made May 16 at 2015 9:33 AM

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Afriend of mine who is a cop gave a guy a quarter the other day when the guy he had stopped informed him that he paid his salary. The cop was reprimanded, but I have a feeling it was worth it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 9:49 AM

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That's exactly what I always think.

What the hell am I paying taxes for, then.

Response by SPC Fred Krauer made May 16 at 2015 10:16 AM

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My father was a civil servant for most of his adult life. He would tell them "Well, since I pay taxes too and you've been so cheap with raises, here's your money back." He'd take what change he had in his pocket and toss it at them and say "Now I don't work for you anymore."

He had a few people call his department to complain, but when the phrase "I pay your salary." Came out, his supervisors always dropped the investigation immediately.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 10:23 AM

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I have never had anyone say that. One time in jest, I told a commander that I pay my own salary, so in reality, I am self employed, and that is why I do what I want. Still glad she had a sense of humor.

Response by SPC Christian Ziegler made May 16 at 2015 10:27 AM

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Nobody has ever had the stones to come up to me and say that. But if someone did I would say you underpaid me for 7 years and you owe me 200k for pain and suffering so pay up or shut up. Scouts Out

Response by SPC Nate Lamphier made May 16 at 2015 10:31 AM

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I can honestly say that this has never happened to me. I think the real reason is the fact during my time America has shown (for the most part) nothing but respect for the Military.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made May 16 at 2015 10:38 AM

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Personally I usually told them something profane and told them if they didn't like it step up to the plate .

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made May 16 at 2015 10:39 AM

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No one says that...

If they did, I'd say, "Thank you."

Response by COL Charles Williams made May 16 at 2015 10:40 AM

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As both a career Soldier and Military Policeman we know this is said to Soldiers and Policemen. I like PO2 William Allen Crowder 's response, but in every case I would always just smile and stay on the high ground.

Paying my salary, like being a HS teacher today, does not mean anyone gets to direct my actions. My chain of command does that alone.

Response by SGT Craig Knutson made May 16 at 2015 10:51 AM

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I would say "you're welcome" and see if they could figure it out.

Response by SGT Richard H. made May 16 at 2015 10:55 AM

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Has someone seriously said that to you??

Here's my suggested response:
"you pay how much a year? $4000? Lets see...if we divide that by 2.5 million active and reserve personnel...How about that, you DO pay my salary! $0.0016 per year of it!. WHAT ARE YOUR ORDERS, SIR???"

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 16 at 2015 11:00 AM

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The person who said it was not only a veteran but a Navy retiree. Oh I had fun educating him. I said, "Well, I pay taxes as well, so not only do I pay my own salary but I pay yours as well since you're still drawing a paycheck from the U.S. Government."

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Response by SrA Edward Vong made May 16 at 2015 11:02 AM

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I've only had one person say something like that to me. He saw me wearing a Rolex with my uniform. He said "so that's what my tax money's going to?" And I responded with "mine as well, I manage my money well."

Response by SPC David Hannaman made May 16 at 2015 11:35 AM

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You pay a portion of my salary, and you already used more than the portion of my time you paid for.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made May 16 at 2015 11:35 AM

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I pay taxes too, so I pay my own salary as well....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 11:57 AM

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I would tell them I pay taxes as well so therefore I am paying myself, guarding their freedom is free of charge..

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 12:05 PM

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After thinking about this perhaps a good response is to slower look them up and down and say:

"I don't think you could afford it."

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 12:57 PM

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Usually I just ignore the person for being ignorant. However, if I'm feeling exceptionally witty that day, I may say something along the lines of: "wanna compare the Tax portion on our W2s. I bet the 22% they take out of my paycheck and the 29.9% (if I happened to get a resign bonus) is higher than yours."

Response by MAJ James Woods made May 16 at 2015 1:34 PM

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My response, "I need a raise or I'm going on strike and you can protect your freedom your damn self!"

Response by PO3 Michael James made May 16 at 2015 1:36 PM

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PO1 Miller, Sir, Honestly, I would ask for a raise.. they won't admit it, but they love having us defend the Constitution/bill of rights, so they can sit safely at home and enjoy Holiday dinners with families while you do without !!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 1:47 PM

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My response would be, " And you've gotten more than your money's worth from me!"

Response by SSG Trevor S. made May 16 at 2015 1:49 PM

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Usually I ignore it. If the debate gets to that point I have won and they are stretching.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made May 16 at 2015 1:57 PM

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Mine would have to be "give me a raise, you cheap bastard!"

Response by CPL Eric Allen made May 16 at 2015 2:02 PM

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i always ask them for a raise.....

Response by SGT Felicia King made May 16 at 2015 2:11 PM

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As military personnel you do work for the U.S. Citizens. But I think of them more like shareholders. They have somewhat of a say, but only on voting days. They're not the CEO, Haha!

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 16 at 2015 2:20 PM

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Never Heard anyone say it to me and the only time I've ever heard it referenced was in relation to Police Officers.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 2:38 PM

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I have never experienced this situation and I don't respond to hypotheticals (lol). What environments or situations are you finding yourself in where this becomes a topic of conversation?

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made May 16 at 2015 2:53 PM

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I usually ask them for a pay raise, because I'm not keeping up with inflation!

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made May 16 at 2015 3:06 PM

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I told the one person who said that to me, your right I do work for you. however you are what is considered a silent partner, with no say so in the daily operations hence why you are a silent partner.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 3:08 PM

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You have the First Amendment guaranteeing you have the write to speak no matter how stupid you sound, but
You do not speak Deutsch.
You do not speak 日本語.
You do not speak español.
Nor do you speak русски.
You do not speak to me, goodbye.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made May 16 at 2015 4:03 PM

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Thanks, where's my bonus?

Response by SGT Anthony Bussing made May 16 at 2015 4:03 PM

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"really? cool...because guess what...I pay MY salary too!"

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 4:25 PM

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I'll be more than happy to tell you the response I gave once. I was on patrol on base (good old Security Forces days). I pulled over a lady for speeding. She had an attitude like she owned the base. I went to give her the ticket and she said "I pay your salary." I had enough. My response to her was "Wow, Really? You make that much money in a year that you pay well over $45,000 in taxes? Well, I guess then, you should have no problem paying this $50 ticket. And if you fail to pay or show up in court, then MY tax dollars will go to supporting you while you are in jail." She was speechless and her face turned bright red. I could not tell if I totally pissed her off or embarrassed the hell out of her. I guess I really did not care either way at that point. And no, I never go in trouble for it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 4:50 PM

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Do people really say that?

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made May 16 at 2015 4:50 PM

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I also pay my salary. :/

Response by PO3 Tiffany Randall made May 16 at 2015 5:26 PM

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Personally I would tell them (if something like this ever came up) to just TRY one day in the military. Only 10% of Americans qualify to be in the military and fewer than that actually graduate boot camp. So if you think I work for you try again. Its because of those who serve in the military you even have the right to make your idiotic comment in the first place.

Response by 1SG David Lopez made May 16 at 2015 5:34 PM

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I get told that quite often by the prisoners where I work. My answer to them is: "How's that working out for you?"

They get the message.....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 5:47 PM

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This is America we all pay each other's salaries. I pay myself Laugh out Loud... This actually happened to one of my fellow NCO's on recruiting duty.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 16 at 2015 6:04 PM

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I would say, "I can tell you are not a mental giant."

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made May 16 at 2015 6:43 PM

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I pay my salary, too.

Response by SPC Chris Early made May 16 at 2015 7:03 PM

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i tell them we all pay taxes, they pay for our toys lol

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made May 16 at 2015 7:35 PM

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"So do I"

Response by LTC Scott O'Neil made May 16 at 2015 7:43 PM

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Hmmmmm tough question, I would start out by eloquently saying Thank you for entrusting my with defending your rights and freedoms. My brothers and sisters in uniform, (Past Present and Future) have paid and will continue to pay in blood sweat and tears and if asked give the ultimate sacrifice our lives in order for you and all Americans to live and breath the rights and freedom you so deserve. I thank you for your contributions to my pay and benefits, it is time you thank those in uniform for your rights and freedom you enjoy on a daily basis, for it were not for those in uniform who have sacrifices through service. You may not be enjoying the rights and freedoms you take for granted on a daily basis. Again, thank you for your contribution to the defense of this great nation I am sure every American will also thank you for your contribution to the common defense. Amen!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 9:14 PM

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Based upon my being a Sioldier 24 hours a day...I don't even make minimum wage..I still do my job to the best of my ability every hour of each 24 hour day, even though you're a lousy employer and you don't hear me bitching to you.

Response by MAJ Anne McGee made May 16 at 2015 9:25 PM

2015-05-16T21:25:31-04:00

I never had that happen, but if it did I would thank them for their service and when they said, "What service?", I would say, "Exactly.....".

Response by Cpl Patrick Reade made May 16 at 2015 9:38 PM

2015-05-16T21:38:21-04:00

So you and I both pay a percentage of what we make to the Feds? Ok then the Feds use that money taken from both of us to orovide me with training and equipment to help protect you. So no you are not my boss, technically you and I contributing the same amount of money for the same reason except in doing something to help you. What is it you do? Well for now you can go F@&k yourself.

Response by Cpl Patrick Reade made May 16 at 2015 9:38 PM

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That Wasn't directed at you po1 john miller. That would be my response to a civilian.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 10:25 PM

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"I pay my salary too. So we should learn to work together since both our money comes to me anyways."

Response by SFC Mark Merino made May 16 at 2015 11:31 PM

2015-05-16T23:31:11-04:00

"Thanks, but YOU don't cut my orders."

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2015 11:59 PM

2015-05-16T23:59:09-04:00

"Then you sure do buy an awful lot of beer. Thanks."

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made May 17 at 2015 12:24 AM

2015-05-17T00:24:14-04:00

"I defend your dumb ass. What's the worth, you asshole?"

Response by SPC James Fie made May 17 at 2015 1:53 AM

2015-05-17T01:53:22-04:00

"Just as soon as you enlist and attain a rank higher than mine. Or is it your opinion that you also own the Interstate Highway system, FDIC, and FCC?"

Response by MSgt Brian Welch made May 17 at 2015 8:55 AM

2015-05-17T08:55:07-04:00

I'd tell them my child has paid more than them in sacrifice alone...

Response by SN Greg Wright made May 17 at 2015 9:24 AM

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My response?

I pay for your freedom.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:04 AM

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My response would be "That's cute. Have a nice day."

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 11:44 AM

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I tell them I pay my own salary cause I to pay taxes. Oh and while we are on the subject I need a raise because as an employer I am not receiving a living wage. Oh and get a life.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 11:46 AM

2015-05-17T11:46:24-04:00

I actually tell people...I pay myself. I'm a tex paying citizen like the next guy so technically I pay myself

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 12:27 PM

2015-05-17T12:27:09-04:00

I'm sorry I am previously tasked for today but if you contact my immediate chain of command or nco support channel we may be able to to schedule time for the detail you request as soon as our current mission and takings are completed and the schedule allows.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 1:26 PM

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I have never experienced this either, that is some serious craziness right there.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made May 17 at 2015 1:50 PM

2015-05-17T13:50:29-04:00

my response is then I pay my own salary since i pay taxes.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA made May 17 at 2015 1:55 PM

2015-05-17T13:55:16-04:00

Although I can't recall anyone seriously saying that, I did find an appropriate response (its a quote of George Orwell in the book Duty by Robert Gates:

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men (and women) stand ready to do violence on their behalf". I would then say something like - "you're welcome".

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 2:07 PM

2015-05-17T14:07:31-04:00

I punch them right in the adams apple, then I slap their Starbucks out of their hands.
Just kidding, no physical violence. It is a prime example of ignorance and they will be trained on the spot. Depends on how they say it to me and how we got to that particular comment. Got to remember that the military makes up roughly 0.4% of the population, so it is a closed community.
BUT...a person of intelligence should be able to accept a correction on their beliefs.

Response by PO1 Jeffrey Brown made May 17 at 2015 2:44 PM

2015-05-17T14:44:23-04:00

This has actually never happened to me. What kind of person would say that?

Response by SP5 Wayne Fox made May 17 at 2015 2:47 PM

2015-05-17T14:47:02-04:00

Had the statement said to me and I said well where is my raise raise,cost of living adjustment and better medical coverage with no raise in premiums.

Response by MG Stephen Hogan made May 17 at 2015 2:46 PM

2015-05-17T14:46:34-04:00

I said "Thanks."

Pure civilians have fallen in and out of love with us- and sometimes they say this out of guilt, sometimes they say this out of respect, but sometimes they are simply being a horse's ass.

Have too much honor to get sucked into validating either option. "Thanks" works.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 2:48 PM

2015-05-17T14:48:06-04:00

I would say "I served you by protecting your rights and the freedom your taxes pay and by the way I pay taxes too."

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 2:55 PM

2015-05-17T14:55:23-04:00

I'd say, "Oh yeah? I pay my salary too. Hah, nubs these days."

Response by SPC Gabe Berdugo made May 17 at 2015 2:57 PM

2015-05-17T14:57:05-04:00

"I pay your salary through my taxes that I pay. Therefore you work for me and have to do what I say!" My response: Make Me!

Response by COL Jon Thompson made May 17 at 2015 3:00 PM

2015-05-17T15:00:14-04:00

Remind them of your oath that you swore to obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over you. That being said, I have never had anyone tell me that in 30 years of service.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:00 PM

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Guess what? So do I!

Response by PO1 Gordon Eatley made May 17 at 2015 3:04 PM

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I provide the freedom that allows you to live your life the way you see fit. To work at a job without the state or a dictator taking all you earn, AND, apparently the freedom to be a tactless asshole. So I guess it's a tie.

Response by 1SG Steven Clark made May 17 at 2015 3:06 PM

2015-05-17T15:06:22-04:00

You pay taxes for the Department of Defense and they hired me.

Response by SSG Samuel Sohm made May 17 at 2015 3:09 PM

2015-05-17T15:09:12-04:00

"Can I have a raise?" :)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:17 PM

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I'd ask for a raise

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:32 PM

2015-05-17T15:32:05-04:00

I've had one person tell me something like that. It was shortly after a bought a used Jeep Wrangler with my AIT pay, something along the lines of "when are you going to let me have that jeep my taxes paid for". My response at the time "never" but today I would probably say something like your are a worthless being who will solely rely on the grounds our forefathers and decent human beings set in place for you. Who only walks on the roads that were built by selfless service and integral individuals that set the foundation of our civilization. You are a selfish creature and your feeble attempt at a joke is pathetic.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:32 PM

2015-05-17T15:32:18-04:00

Well...

Unless they're an "Officer appointed over me", I very much do not have to do what they say. However, they DO pay our salaries through the taxes they pay and I'm never shy about expressing my gratitude for that tax money allowing me to do something I love for a living!

THANKS, TAXPAYERS! I'm still grateful!

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 17 at 2015 3:32 PM

2015-05-17T15:32:50-04:00

Thank you, I protect you freedom.

Response by MAJ H L Spence made May 17 at 2015 3:45 PM

2015-05-17T15:45:45-04:00

"I doubt your taxable income is high enough to cover my full salary, but thanks for contribution"

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 4:37 PM

2015-05-17T16:37:41-04:00

It depends on the context I suppose. If they're being a total dick, forgive my language, tell them politely they can speak to your chain of command and that you appriciate their contribution to their nation's defense. It's important to remember that what we do reflects on the military as a whole.

Response by A1C Allen Forbes made May 17 at 2015 4:52 PM

2015-05-17T16:52:13-04:00

I would reply," Looks like I'm doing a great job because you're still free and breathing."

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 17 at 2015 4:56 PM

2015-05-17T16:56:06-04:00

Tell the idiot to call the POTUS to see if your chain of command goes through the idiot.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:18 PM

2015-05-17T17:18:31-04:00

I have said, Thank You and enjoy your freedom. Freedom isn't free.

Response by SSG Robert Blair made May 17 at 2015 5:20 PM

2015-05-17T17:20:39-04:00

On active duty I'd tell them, "taxes we pay and the retired veterans taxes go toward our pay checks. Civilian taxes go to government officials pay checks and government programs."
They have know idea if it were true or not. It shut their ignorant mouths though.

Now that I'm in the reserves, I tell them, "I'm in the Reserves and therefore I pay more taxes from my civilian life than I earn from the Army, which means I pay my own paycheck and then some."

It stops them in their tracks either way.

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:49 PM

2015-05-17T17:49:46-04:00

Yes, sir/ma'am. That may be true, and I appreciate your support every day. However, you pay me to do a specific job. your gracious support goes directly to training me for this job, and I need you to trust me that I know how to do my job.

Now please, can I just see your life vests? :P

Response by SGT John Beardsley made May 17 at 2015 6:05 PM

2015-05-17T18:05:32-04:00

I always shot back the same response you do, I paid taxes too. And in most circumstances I paid more than the unintelligent individual who made the comment. Being single with zero dependents left me in the bracket of the highest hit.

And if they wanted to continue the subject I would start going into the years that went by when I was on duty for every holiday of the year, with no extra pay. The number of days I pulled 24 hour shifts. The training exercises that began with 72 hour ops before you were allowed a rest, and that being only 4 hours before you went on "standard" ops of 18 - 20 hour ops for the next 3 - 6 weeks. No overtime for any of that.

And the always ever present risk that somebody was going to piss in somebody other's bucket and we'd be called on to go where the bad guys were and potentially have them shoot real bullets at us. Might get a little more pay for that, if the Congress or the President decided we were worth it.

If we made it this far into the conversation I would, politely but firmly, tell the unintelligent piece of flesh that, in point of fact, Soldiers were paying his or her salary.

Response by SGT John Beardsley made May 17 at 2015 6:07 PM

2015-05-17T18:07:48-04:00

Yes, I have. See my response on the other thread about this subject.

Response by SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD made May 17 at 2015 6:21 PM

2015-05-17T18:21:22-04:00

Let me see. You offer lousy medical benefits, you put your employees in harm's way, the salary you offer doesn't go far, our working conditions are the worst, when you sent us to other parts of the word, we don't stay in hotels, but rather in tents, and the president you have elected to run your company, doesn't seem to have any experience running it! You run a lousy business.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 17 at 2015 6:21 PM

2015-05-17T18:21:12-04:00

A lot of great responses, keep them up. Unfortunately I'm starting to run out of up votes so please don't be offended if I haven't up voted you yet!

Response by CPO Joseph Grant made May 17 at 2015 6:23 PM

2015-05-17T18:23:33-04:00

Never ran into that one.

Response by PFC Joshua Schiefelbein made May 17 at 2015 8:10 PM

2015-05-17T20:10:27-04:00

My standard response is to reply with the question, "is what you're going to tell me to do involve me removing my pants?" Not a lot of ways to come back from that.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 9:00 PM

2015-05-17T21:00:18-04:00

let's keep it simple shall we? base pay is ~$70K/yr. There are approximately 250 million taxpayers in the US. Dudemanbro pays $0.00028 of my annual salary. He can come talk to me when he hits 2 cents. dueces

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 9:20 PM

2015-05-17T21:20:21-04:00

I would say, thank you for your contribution.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 9:41 PM

2015-05-17T21:41:38-04:00

I pay my own salary!! Lmao

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:00 PM

2015-05-17T22:00:06-04:00

"I pay taxes also, so by your logic, I'm self-employed." I've used that one a time or two on traffic stops. I have a buddy who once flipped the guy a penny and said "There's your refund." I don't recommend either of those responses when you're a police officer in a small town (30 officers) where everyone knows the chief.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:05 PM

2015-05-17T22:05:49-04:00

I pay for the welfare that you are on…

Had someone who was on it state that to me & that's all I had to say

Response by SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. made May 17 at 2015 10:12 PM

2015-05-17T22:12:43-04:00

If the argument is based upon someone's tax dollars paid my salary while on active duty, then I must have been self-employed as I also paid taxes.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:14 PM

2015-05-17T22:14:45-04:00

That doesn't merit a response. I'd ignore them and go about my business. Some stupid isn't worth arguing with.

Response by SSG Angela Valtierra made May 17 at 2015 10:17 PM

2015-05-17T22:17:51-04:00

I would say well think about this before you open your mouth again I pay for your freedom of speech to say this ignorant garbage.

Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:28 PM

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I have never been asked this question.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:35 PM

2015-05-17T22:35:58-04:00

I pay my salary too.

Response by SPC Tommy Kennedy made May 17 at 2015 10:38 PM

2015-05-17T22:38:50-04:00

My response is "your tax portion goes towards sewage and trash pick up"!

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:43 PM

2015-05-17T22:43:07-04:00

"You pay my salary to defend your right to say stupid crap like that"
**Drops the mic, walks away**

Response by BG David Fleming III made May 17 at 2015 10:47 PM

2015-05-17T22:47:19-04:00

My response would be " that and 99 cents might get me a candy bar!"

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made May 17 at 2015 11:59 PM

2015-05-17T23:59:26-04:00

I normally just say thank you....It's good work if you can get it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 11:59 PM

2015-05-17T23:59:57-04:00

I would like a raise. .... especially in my BAH. That's when I get the " the heck is that " face

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 12:13 AM

2015-05-18T00:13:10-04:00

My favorite is when they tell me that I am on "Welfare" because I'm in the military. Had to remind them that I work 50-60 hours a week and that isn't "Welfare".

Response by 1LT A. Uribe made May 18 at 2015 12:26 AM

2015-05-18T00:26:00-04:00

You may only pay a portion of the salary, but I'm here to do a job as a professional and that means enforcing the standard, law and defending the constitution from all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC.

Response by LtCol Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 12:56 AM

2015-05-18T00:56:13-04:00

Flip the guy a nickel and tell him we're even.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 1:30 AM

2015-05-18T01:30:49-04:00

My response would be,"you're right, you partially pay my salary and I do work to protect you, but you are not authorized to give me orders. Have a nice day" and walk off

Response by COL Roxanne Arndt made May 18 at 2015 2:31 AM

2015-05-18T02:31:34-04:00

I would say " i pay taxes just like you and last time i checked I' m the one wesring the uniform.

Response by COL Roxanne Arndt made May 18 at 2015 2:33 AM

2015-05-18T02:33:35-04:00

"I pay taxes just like you do so you don't own me."

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 3:55 AM

2015-05-18T03:55:59-04:00

My response would be "So do my parents but I'm more inclined to listen to them than you. After all they are my parents. Thou shall respect thy father and mother. The bible said nothing about respecting ignorant assholes."

Response by SGT Steve Oakes made May 18 at 2015 6:00 AM

2015-05-18T06:00:02-04:00

Yes you do. You pay that salary so that I and my brothers and sisters in arms will secure for you the right to say that stupid shit to me. Or any other idiotic thing that pops into your head. Because of those of us serving you can say these things with out fear of persecution or retaliation. Your welcome.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 6:24 AM

2015-05-18T06:24:51-04:00

I pay taxes too, and defend your country :)

Response by SSG Brian Kresge made May 18 at 2015 7:04 AM

2015-05-18T07:04:03-04:00

I've had people say this to me, less about commanding me around, but to establish some sort of primacy in our social hierarchy.

And when I was active duty, this might have been true. But thankfully, the taxpayer-afforded GI Bill, Army College Fund, etc., allowed me to come at the point where in my civilian career, I pay enough in state taxes alone that I cover my yearly Guard salary. And I'm only too happy to tell them this along with thanking them for affording my path to exceeding them.

If they really want to impress me, they can go visit their local recruiter. I'll be respectful, but I have no time for that mentality on the part of civilians.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 7:54 AM

2015-05-18T07:54:53-04:00

PO1 Miller--yes indeed, in effect, military and fed/state employees do pay a portion of their salary via taxes. I also encounter the "double dipping" thing from people who also tell me they went to Canada to avoid the draft. I tell them someone else took their place so they could go to Canada.
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Response by SFC Stephen Carden made May 18 at 2015 8:22 AM

2015-05-18T08:22:09-04:00

I have never had anyone say this to me, but if I were still on active duty, then I would tell them that without an initial counseling, an assumption of command order, or an organizational chart showing that I was subordinate to them, then they could just go pound sand. Last I checked, civilians do not have general military authority.
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No, you pay taxes to the federal and state governments. The money goes into a pool of money, which provides the budget for the armed forces. You elected a president to serve as Commander-in-Chief. The President commissions officers to administer the armed forces, and the forces themselves choose NCOs to enforce policies set by the officers. Therefore, I work for the officers, who work for the President. I do not work for you; unless you outrank the President? Otherwise, go pound sand.

Response by PO1 Henry Sherrill made May 18 at 2015 9:50 AM

2015-05-18T09:50:27-04:00

I also pay taxes, so give me a raise so I can better protect your right to talk down to me.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 10:30 AM

2015-05-18T10:30:02-04:00

I usually said, "I pay my salary, too." They usually never had a response for that.

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made May 18 at 2015 11:00 AM

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I get asked that question all time, especially when I am doing something that has a negative effect on the person asking the question. My usual answer is, "I pay my own salary." I generally pay more in taxes than the person asking the question anyway.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 11:02 AM

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Not sure if anyone posted this one yet. Stole it from the RallyPoint Facebook page. It was awesome and I feel obligated to reshare!

Response by CW2 Carl Swanson made May 18 at 2015 11:08 AM

2015-05-18T11:08:44-04:00

I'm self employed, I pay taxes too, have a nice day!

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made May 18 at 2015 11:19 AM

2015-05-18T11:19:45-04:00

I pay my taxes too, which makes me self employed, and invalidates your argument.
Because you're not alone, we take our job seriously and do our jobs very well to protect and serve ALL people - even those who DON'T pay taxes, but if you alone did pay my salary, I would tell you it's not enough when I have to deal with people that think like you and have no respect for us!
You should be glad you're money is supporting the best organization in the world!

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made May 18 at 2015 11:23 AM

2015-05-18T11:23:51-04:00

I pay taxes, too...so I guess I could say I'm self employed and co-owner along with you civilians.

Response by SGT Cody Skinner made May 18 at 2015 11:30 AM

2015-05-18T11:30:29-04:00

I pay my own Salary... What? You don't think Service Members pay taxes too? Unless deployed that is.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made May 18 at 2015 11:43 AM

2015-05-18T11:43:07-04:00

When I was a young soldier supporting the recruiters at a local fair, an old gentleman said basically those exact words to me. I said, "Yes Sir, thank you."

This was the early 80s, and he went on to explain to me why the military was wrong and blah, blah, blah. How I was wrong for serving and that we as a Nation were wrong for blah, blah, blah.

After listening politely for as long as I could, I dug a nickel out of my pocket and gave it to him. He looked at it and asked me what that was for. I told him the nickel was more of his tax money than I would ever actually receive from him, so we were more than even..."and don't ever speak to me again."

When I turned to walk away, I saw the Recruiting Company Commander standing behind me. I figured I was in a bit of trouble, but turns out he actually enjoyed watching the whole thing and thought my final reply was hilarious.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 11:47 AM

2015-05-18T11:47:00-04:00

Thank you... Can I get a raise?

Response by PFC Jacob Brunette made May 18 at 2015 11:56 AM

2015-05-18T11:56:51-04:00

I always told them That they Paid for the Presidential retreats, My Uncle Sam Paid me for Working Security at his Functions.

Response by MAJ Chris Ballard made May 18 at 2015 12:04 PM

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And you get one 320 millionth share of authority over me for that.

Response by SFC Jeff L. made May 18 at 2015 12:14 PM

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You're getting a heck of a bargain!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 12:18 PM

2015-05-18T12:18:10-04:00

Makes me want to ask for an I.d to compare to my LES. Oh wait, their name wouldn't be on it

Response by LTC Nancy Bodyk (Retired) made May 18 at 2015 12:32 PM

2015-05-18T12:32:40-04:00

I was never asked this question. I would probably just walk off without responding.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 12:59 PM

2015-05-18T12:59:33-04:00

I'd reply, "we should talk about a raise, then."

Response by SFC Michael Jackson, MBA made May 18 at 2015 1:11 PM

2015-05-18T13:11:04-04:00

"Thank you for supporting our troops" is what I would say.
I figure the person just want their viewpoints to heard and important to me. I respect their position so I let them I appreciate their support and move on.

Response by SSG Michael Primm made May 18 at 2015 1:14 PM

2015-05-18T13:14:00-04:00

As I drive away in my BMW I tell them the price for freedom is not free and you're welcome.

Response by LT Charles Baird made May 18 at 2015 1:18 PM

2015-05-18T13:18:56-04:00

Thank you for paying my salary and I will continue to do my best to defend your freedoms; unfortunately for you I don't have to do what you say as you are not in my chain of command; but feel free to utilize your right to vote to influence the direction our military moves in.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 1:31 PM

2015-05-18T13:31:13-04:00

"I pay for your freedom."

Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 18 at 2015 2:23 PM

2015-05-18T14:23:50-04:00

Should the military only serve/defend those who pay? Approximately half of the American population don't pay taxes (even though they complain as if they do).

Should the military better serve/defend those who pay more? Interestingly, the top wage earners (the wealthy) pay a disproportionate amount of taxes.

That all being said, I would have to respond to the person who who says "I pay your salary" with a question: "So, is there some fellow American you want me to attack for you?"

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 2:29 PM

2015-05-18T14:29:15-04:00

I paid over $8K in taxes last year.....so technically I paid my salary for more than a month month......and right now i'm on the time I paid for..so you can go mind your own business.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made May 18 at 2015 2:39 PM

2015-05-18T14:39:12-04:00

I normally say "Thank You, it is good work if you can get it."

Response by CSM Michael Lynch made May 18 at 2015 3:05 PM

2015-05-18T15:05:52-04:00

My response is Thank you and I also pay yours with the taxes I pay along with mine or my second response is I didn't see your name on the signature line of my paycheck, thanks for thinking you did. Have a great day

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made May 18 at 2015 3:47 PM

2015-05-18T15:47:14-04:00

Never had it said to me, but since we pay taxes on those tax dollars I'm going out on a limb here and say that we are paying ourselves. And just to be a smart ass I would have to tell the person I don't recall seeing their signature on my check.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 4:32 PM

2015-05-18T16:32:27-04:00

I keep you free so you can sleep at night.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 4:47 PM

2015-05-18T16:47:22-04:00

Thanks and I save your butt so you can be free as an AMERICAN

Response by SSG Clayton Blackwell made May 18 at 2015 4:58 PM

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In the 12 years I was in the Army I never once had anyone say that to me. In 16+ years as a cop I have heard it numerous times. The first time was a gangbanger and I replied, "you would actually have to pay taxes for that to be true, last I checked drug dealers don't pay taxes." Another time I offered a penny and said "here you are ma'am, we have a double your money back guarantee for dissatisfied customers." - repremand for that one, but I was fine with it. Now, I simply look at them like they are idiots and don't dignify a response. I just keep prssing forward with whatever I am doing.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 7:09 PM

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I would say, "Thats good to know… I want a raise."

Response by SPC Daniel Bowen made May 18 at 2015 7:54 PM

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"Oh you do? Awesome! You paid for my beer last night! Thanks pal!"

Response by SGT Rick Ash made May 18 at 2015 8:56 PM

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I always ask if they have an hour and lets sit somewhere. This is what I do for my country and what I HAVE done. I only make $x.xx per hour, not even minimum wage. Don't you think I deserve a raise with back pay right now? You never hear it from them again. : |)

Response by SPC Daniel Edwards made May 18 at 2015 8:56 PM

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You may pay my salary but I pay my own bills. All my bills are paid out of my bank account. Until you pay my bills, shove it up your ass. Respectfully.

Response by SPC Daniel Edwards made May 18 at 2015 8:58 PM

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Yeah? I pay your welfare so we are even.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 9:19 PM

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I work in law enforcement I hear this all the time. I usually ignore it. Occasionally they repeat it a couple times but mostly when you do not react they move on to some other complaint or gripe. Typically the person that brings this up is mad at the establishment and as a rep of that establishment they are simply taking out pent-up frustration on you. It is almost never personal. As a professional you should be able to realize that these type people are not harmful (usually) and it is best to be the more civil person and ignore the jab and continue with whatever the mission is at that time. Making childish and immature comments to these people simply re-enforces their belief. It also can encourage them to escalate the encounter which will never end well no matter if you win. While it may make you feel better at the moment ultimately you lose.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 9:22 PM

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I don't think anyone ever said that to me...let me think..nope...I would remember laying someone out for that.

Response by SSgt Gregory Juedes made May 18 at 2015 10:12 PM

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No one has ever said that to me

Response by PO3 David Davis made May 18 at 2015 10:30 PM

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I think people say that because they have nothing else to offer to the conversation or the situation. In that case we can say that to anyone. If we get down to it every dime we spend helps pay someone. Buying things pays wages. It's a stupid comment.

Response by SSG Jeffrey Landry made May 18 at 2015 10:37 PM

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So smile at them say thank you and tell them you have served proudly

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 11:30 PM

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The people claiming that probably get all their taxes back because they make so little. So in reality, they aren't paying for anything are really are the ones getting a free ride from society.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made May 19 at 2015 12:07 AM

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If a civilian tell me that, I'll tell them. "Well if you want me to pay your taxes, feel free to stand in front of me".

Response by LTC Donell Kelly made May 19 at 2015 12:53 AM

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Had a friend who worked for a US airline company. One day, when the usually running late (so he could get a voucher for reduced fare on another flight) passenger didn't get to the door until the doors were closed & was denied boarding had the irate passenger in his face. After listening to the man rant for 5 min, when the passenger had ended with "I'll have your job!" the employee responded, "please, sir, you don't want my job because you have to put up with too many assholes." End of discussion and worth every nickel of a 4 day suspension!!

Response by SSG Keith Bodiford (Ret) made May 19 at 2015 2:09 AM

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Never encountered it but I'm sure they wouldn't enjoy the conclusion of that conversation nearly as much as they anticipated.

Response by SGT Jmajik Jmann made May 19 at 2015 6:42 AM

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Ask them for a raise. Working here at the MVAHS Mimai VA; I see the hiring trend move away from Veterans to civilians with no milkitary experience, no understanding of Veterans etc. etc. That may be one factor in all of these VA mismanagement cases pending before House Armed Services Committes.

Response by PO2 Michael Stinar made May 19 at 2015 8:31 AM

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I defend your Freedoms that you enjoy everyday - Thank You Very Much.....

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made May 19 at 2015 8:48 AM

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"I've protected your fat ass". By my reckoning, you're ahead in the deal

Response by SSG Kenneth Lanning made May 19 at 2015 9:14 AM

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I defend this country against all enemies, foreign or just plain stupid....

Response by SSG Richard Reilly made May 19 at 2015 9:24 AM

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I normally just say "yup and so do I" and walk away from them. Note I get it alot when people I work with find out I am retire. They hate knowing I get a check from the military still.

Response by SGT Chris Hill made May 19 at 2015 9:31 AM

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I've only had one encounter with this situation, and I ended it pretty quickly by handing him a dollar and saying "here's your total years contribution in return, plus extra". He then tried to debate that it's far more than a dollar, which I decided there was no logical reason to debate with someone who lacks common sense.. so i walked away as he continued

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made May 19 at 2015 9:57 AM

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I would simply say thank you. I'd also ask that they oppose wars and bring the troops home. If they pay our salaries, they're responsible for us. It's a two-way street.

You know, except for the "do as I say", part, they'd be right. Unless we have other income, the idea that we pay taxes is absurd. Government steals money from productive people to pay us. That doesn't mean we don't add value, but our paying taxes is simply recycling, which then helps the government employ legions of bureaucrats to do NOTHING productive.

Response by SSG Greg Small made May 19 at 2015 10:25 AM

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I offer to give them their quarter back.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 10:29 AM

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well if you pay our salary then we defend your house, so we will now take what we have worked so hard for to defent and claim it as ours

Response by Cpl Kristoffer Mischel made May 19 at 2015 10:40 AM

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I have only heard this one as a joke from some of my friends. I usually respond with "Can I have a raise" and there have been times when I didn't have to say anything because others have stood up and defended the military.

Response by SGT Jimmy Stout made May 19 at 2015 10:48 AM

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May I have a raise?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 11:24 AM

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I would say thanks but I could use a raise. And FYI I pay taxes too.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 11:27 AM

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I serve an elected official that YOU put in office. If you don't like what I'm doing, take it up with the CIC.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made May 19 at 2015 11:44 AM

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Lucky we aren't paying your salary because if we did we're not getting our monies worth!

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 12:11 PM

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I always say, your welcome for the ability to scrutinize me and my service.

Response by SFC Robert Wheeler made May 19 at 2015 12:43 PM

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I make it a point to thank civilians for providing me with a world class education and wonderful opportunities to travel. I also thank them for living in the field months at a time, moving every three years and of course the honor of being on duty 7x24x365. No...seriously, I have never had anyone complain about paying my salary, even in jest. I would probably ask to see documentation of their years of service in uniform. If they have none, then I would ask them if they want their money back? If they do, I would instruct them to call their congress critter. If they show me any kind of military service documentation then I would inform them to suck it and complain to the Chaplain because nobody else wants to hear it.

Response by CSM David Heidke made May 19 at 2015 1:44 PM

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Throw them a penny and say, "Here's your refund now STFU"

Response by Cpl Anthony Pearson made May 19 at 2015 2:11 PM

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If someone said that to me, and meant it in a non-joking way, I'd tell them to kiss my ass and get out of my face.

Response by Cpl Larry Allard made May 19 at 2015 4:25 PM

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I want more money.

Response by SGT(P) Anthony Nestor made May 19 at 2015 4:31 PM

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I haven't come across this and hopefully wont but I would probably say something along the lines of " that's great! and we fight for your fight by the way your welcome."

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 7:40 PM

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They get an eye roll with the neck;.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 19 at 2015 9:17 PM

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Ask to see it black n white, then call them a dumbass.

Response by AN Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 10:09 PM

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I think if anyone ever said this to me or someone still AD in front of me I wouldn't be able to stop my hand from slapping the stupid out of them.. Just saying.

Response by HN Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2015 11:40 PM

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Give em a ball tap and say I need a raise

Response by SSG John Erny made May 20 at 2015 1:17 AM

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I pay your salary!

No one paid the salary of the first Patriots who fell at Concord bridge; the volunteers’ in Washington’s Army were paid but not very well. Time moves on and we become a nation that we are today. So the question is who paid for whose way of life? The foundation of this nation is made of stone and the mortar that is whet with the blood of patriots. So Pick your poison: King George, the Spanish, the French? Or choose to follow a new Idea: America

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

People who take for granted what they have TODAY make me very angry. They are short sighted and cannot see past their house in a gated community. They cannot see how evil the world once was and assume that their perfect little world has always been. Their perfect little world exists because people died to make it so. When you see code pink and their Ilk remind them that people are dead so that they may speak without dying them selves

Step back a few hundred years and try freedom of speech, if you were lucky it would only get you hung. Burned at the stake, broken at the wheel, the stock and rack, perhaps even the brazen bull would be your end. Well that was such a long time ago some would counter; look at the world around you I would counter. It is still going on today while you are safe in your gated community, at least for now.

Response by PO2 Mark Zawadzki made May 20 at 2015 7:32 AM

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The reasoned answer:
" The Constitution of the United States of America states that only one person is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces; that person is the President. He may delegate that authority, as in the case of the Secretary of State. Are you the President or one of his delegates?"
Or wise ass answer:
"Taxes pay the President's salary. Go to the White House and tell me how itworks out for you."

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 7:35 AM

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Well then pay my taxes too! I am all for that.....

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 9:38 AM

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I would say, " thank you", and leave it at that.

Response by CH (MAJ) William Beaver made May 20 at 2015 9:39 AM

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I say that as a taxpayer, I also pay my own salary, and I pay for protection of their rights. So settle down, junior.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 10:22 AM

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I would say, boss, while I appreciate your salary and benenfits, I would like to make a formal complaint about a few things.
first off, I understand that I am a Soldier 24 hours a day, so why is my pay so low? I am required to come in at 0600 and leave at 1900. so why are you a 9 to 5 er?
Secondly, why am I held to a higher standard than my boss. see, I cant slap you in the face right now because I would be punished. I cant eat so many donuts, because I cannot be a fat sloppy slob like you, and I have to do PT all the time and you, well, I see not so much. so why the double standard here?
Third, as my employer, I would like to see a few more things happen. I believe that people that want a welfare check or food stamps should conduct police call around highways and cities. prisoners do it for 50 cents and hour, why cant others.
finally, why do you consider yourself my bss when you don't pay taxes. the money you've earned is from welfare foodstamps and unemployment. meanwhile, I pay 400$ a month in taxes. in fact, would that make me the father of your 14 children? I mean after all, I am paying for their grocery. look, I don't need them to call me dad. I just want to claim them on my next tax return.

yup, that's what I would like to say sometimes

Response by SGT Brett Brookins made May 20 at 2015 10:45 AM

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I protect protect your freedoms, What is that worth?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 10:57 AM

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Well, Ma'am/Sir, I understand why you would say that but would you rather pay me not to do my job?

Response by MSgt Rob Weston made May 20 at 2015 11:06 AM

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I would use my nicest voice " Wow really, well so does he, and she, and them (as in point to other people)... Oh and so do I. Thank you for your support and now Golf Foxtrot Yankee and have a good day"

Response by SGT Frances Richardson made May 20 at 2015 11:33 AM

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LOL, I pay taxes, too so shuddup.

Response by GySgt Paul Hays made May 20 at 2015 11:33 AM

2015-05-20T11:33:29-04:00

I fight your wars. Wanna trade?

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made May 20 at 2015 11:34 AM

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Hehehe....nobody's ever had the cajones to say that to me...but if they did say that about the military in my presence, they'd get an earful.

Something about defending freedoms, blank check, keeping their sorry butts safe...but leaving no room for them to counter.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 11:56 AM

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I pay taxes. I also get money taken out for insurance. And I work my ass off for that paycheck. I believe I work a lot harder and a lot more hours than the...ahem...individual telling me they pay my salary. So they are welcome to go fly a kite. I make less than 30k a year after taxes. If they're really responsible for my salary then I'm going to start asking for a raise.

Response by CPT Chris Loomis made May 20 at 2015 12:12 PM

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I've had one person tell me that. I reached into my pocket, pulled out approximately $0.65 in coins, placed them on his desk, said, "I quit !" And walked away.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 12:25 PM

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Never had that happen to me. But if it did, I don't know what I would do. Maybe introduce that person to a mudhole....

Response by PO2 Christopher Foss made May 20 at 2015 12:34 PM

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Ask them to put their "orders" in writing. When they ask why, tell them that, by assuming command, they are also assuming responsibility for your actions and you want a clearly defined trail of documentation.

Response by SSG Rob Schwandt made May 20 at 2015 12:50 PM

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Respond, well I think we need to raise taxes then and then smile.

Response by 1SG Kenny Utter made May 20 at 2015 1:09 PM

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My response has always been "thanks." I then remind them that the taxes that they pay are actually for their right to be an American, not to pay my salary. Many countries will accept those who are dissatisfied about what their taxes do. All they need to do is renounce their citizenship in the U.S. and leave.

Response by Sgt Jerami Ballard made May 20 at 2015 1:25 PM

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I've had this question a few times and I typically responded with, "I pay taxes too. Those taxes go to all of the same things your taxes do like my own taxed pay and your welfare or social security." I also tend to add in the we have to pay for our own healthcare as well, it's just taken out with our taxes.
It amazes me how ignorant people can be about what is realistically one of the easiest pay systems I've ever encountered. 5 minutes on Google and you can literally calculate our take home pay.

Response by SGT(P) Gregory Daniel Collins, Jr. made May 20 at 2015 1:52 PM

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Respond with: "I do too."

Response by PO2 Matthew Mikulskis made May 20 at 2015 2:08 PM

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"You pay an average of 1/350,000,000 of my pack check. Odds are good I've paid you a lot more shopping than you've paid me."

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 2:54 PM

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Response: "You gonna fire me? No? Then mind your business, boss."

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 3:04 PM

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Thanks, how about a raise? Jokingly of course

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 3:11 PM

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I just agree with them. I joined the Marine Corps to serve. Does that mean I am their secretary to fetch them coffee? No. It does, however, mean that I do in a sense work for them. Not individually, but as a governing group. So I would respond as I would to a board of trustees... "I respect your thoughts on this matter, but as the subject matter expert in my field I feel I must defer to my training and personal experience vice some esoteric notion of civilian structured command". Typically most of those words exceed their understanding and they back down, we get some drinks and carry on about our day.

Response by SGT Christopher Joyner made May 20 at 2015 3:21 PM

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I would ask them if they would like a refund?

Response by MSgt Herb Wild made May 20 at 2015 3:36 PM

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"How about a raise ?"

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made May 20 at 2015 3:49 PM

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The DoD pays the salary which is made up of all kinds of tariff, tax and excise components. The minute she begins to pay your payroll taxes she is paying your salary, until then she is paying homage to her own ignorance.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 3:56 PM

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I take my orders through the chain of command. Civilians are so low on the list, they don't even have a pay grade.

Response by PVT Denver Walter Jr made May 20 at 2015 4:18 PM

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i keep you and your freedom safe and put my life on the line for you 24/7 any questions

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 4:50 PM

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"Thank you" followed by the most smug smile I could make.

Response by SSG Mark Ives made May 20 at 2015 4:56 PM

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"Where's my W-2? I need it to file MY taxes!"

Response by SP6 Cajun Ray made May 20 at 2015 5:17 PM

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Well, I don't say what I want to say or wouldn't have before I retired. I one said something like the author. I said, "I pay taxes too so I guess you could say I'm self employed."

Response by CPO Jim Turner made May 20 at 2015 5:30 PM

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1) I also pay taxes.
2)I have to do what my commander in chief and those appointed over me tell me what to do. We both pay their salary.
3) How about a raise? I'd like to be paid for the hours I actually work.

Response by SPC Tim Cobos made May 20 at 2015 5:57 PM

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Well I pay your welfare and housing with my taxes. G f yourself

Response by LTC Gregory Platt made May 20 at 2015 6:04 PM

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No. You, as do I, pay taxes. Taxes provide the revenue necessary to keep our govt functioning. National Defense is one of the most necessary of these functions. I work under the Department of Defense & the Defense Finance & Accounting System pays may salary.

Response by SFC John Rivera made May 20 at 2015 6:47 PM

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I am retired from active duty but now I am a Fort Worth Police Officer so I hear this from time to time. Espscially when during a Public Intoxication Arrest.
I have a fellow officer who I will not name, was confronted with the "I Pay Your Salary" situation. He threw 35 cents at the person and said, " your part of my salary is about 35 cents, here is your refund!"

Response by CPT Gary Jugenheimer made May 20 at 2015 8:06 PM

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I have never been told that by anyone while in the military, but if I was I would say "thank you for your support!" and move on from there...

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made May 20 at 2015 8:36 PM

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My response would be "so what if it wasn't for the Federal Government you wouldn't have this job."

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 9:08 PM

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So, a similar post is on Facebook right now and the responses are hilarious....I think my favorite one so far is "Thank you for the beer and stripper money."

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 20 at 2015 9:08 PM

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If that's the case we would have lost all the wars, you goat herder.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 9:50 PM

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I pay taxes on your taxes that you say pay me so in reality I pay my for my own paycheck. Now what do you have to say. So if you really want to break it down why is the military taxed on tax money? That is double dipping by the US Government.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 9:55 PM

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"Ah, Thanks” -- Why argue with stupid?

Response by SPC David S. made May 20 at 2015 11:56 PM

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So do another 122 million Americans - wait in line until your number is called.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 21 at 2015 12:09 AM

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An old co-worker of my wife's was saying something to her about "The military is overpaid and it's BS that they get paid extra for housing."

My wife went off on him and made him understand the sacrifices that I made. In fact, when I finally met this guy he apologized to me.

Response by SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA made May 21 at 2015 12:20 AM

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So, $15 / hr huh? Thanks boss!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2015 12:56 AM

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And so do I! Anything else I can assist you with?

Response by AN Jim Kenihan made May 21 at 2015 5:24 AM

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"I pay my salary as well...so I'm my own boss"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2015 6:10 AM

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Everton also pays the salary for law enforcement, but you wouldn't try and tell a cop what to do, would you?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2015 6:11 AM

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If you want to be so involved, why not use your enthusiasm to better our education system (which is also supported by your taxes).

Response by SPC Troy Garcia made May 21 at 2015 8:47 AM

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Thanks!

Response by MSgt Alan Cayer made May 21 at 2015 9:18 AM

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My response was/is simply that I pay the same taxes you do so what's your point?

Response by SSG Ernest Gonzales made May 21 at 2015 1:47 PM

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I like the raise question.

Response by SSG Lindal Cossey made May 21 at 2015 1:50 PM

2015-05-21T13:50:03-04:00

Funny I didn't see your name on my last pay check. Oh by the way, how about a raise?

Response by SSG Lindal Cossey made May 21 at 2015 1:52 PM

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Thanks! Didn't see your name on my paycheck but I will sure look next month. And if you could give us a raise that would be great!

Response by MAJ Keira Brennan made May 21 at 2015 2:26 PM

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My response = "SO?" and I'd ask them if they were a veteran of the armed forces, federal service, Americorps, peace corps or a public safety professional (police/fire/nurse/doc/emt). If they said NO I would tell them "IMHO just because you pay your taxes doesn't mean you have done enough for our Country..."

Response by Capt Vickie Adams made May 21 at 2015 3:02 PM

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Then let me do my job.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2015 3:51 PM

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I would simply say to that person: 1) I put on the uniform so that you can enjoy freedom and earn an income, and 2) I pay taxes too!

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made May 21 at 2015 5:39 PM

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I would say I pay for their freedom to be a tool and make foolish statements like that through my deployments before telling them to have a fine Navy day.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made May 21 at 2015 6:02 PM

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"Oh, you're a cheap bastage, aint ya?!"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2015 6:10 PM

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First response, "No you do not, I am self employed cause I pay taxes also."

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 21 at 2015 7:05 PM

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I protect your freedom

Response by SGT Suraj Dave made May 21 at 2015 8:25 PM

2015-05-21T20:25:08-04:00

Yeah, your taxes for school teachers salaries also. Do you command your children's teachers to give them grades they didn't earn simply because you pay their salary? No. So what makes you think you could command me to do anything.

Response by SPC(P) Mark Newman made May 21 at 2015 9:56 PM

2015-05-21T21:56:10-04:00

"You pay me to do the job right. That means I take direction through my chain of command."

I do like the veteran who said that he thinks people for playing their part to support our national defense. it's too easy to give a snarky answer, or to take offense. I fink his answer, and some of the other answers listed here shows class. hello since we're talking about the military, I'll say some of the answers show professionalism.

Response by PO2 Terry Meadows made May 21 at 2015 11:11 PM

2015-05-21T23:11:23-04:00

There'd be no salary without me you SSOS!

Response by SCPO Lee Pradia made May 21 at 2015 11:33 PM

2015-05-21T23:33:40-04:00

I would say Thank you, my family and I appreciate the tax payers.

Response by TSgt Tom Flanagan made May 22 at 2015 9:21 AM

2015-05-22T09:21:48-04:00

I have had that said to me both while in uniform and as a civilian police officer. My response in both instances was "Then you are just the person I need to talk to about a raise!"

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2015 1:17 PM

2015-05-22T13:17:23-04:00

"I pay my salary too, just because I'm Military doesn't mean that we have this magical we don't have to pay taxes wand."

Response by MSgt Roger Lalik made May 22 at 2015 5:13 PM

2015-05-22T17:13:31-04:00

Response is a simple F**k you....

Response by PO1 Jim B made May 22 at 2015 6:35 PM

2015-05-22T18:35:31-04:00

Yes you do help pay my wages with your taxes and I have repaid that debt 10 times over. Is there anything else I can do for you?

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 22 at 2015 6:40 PM

2015-05-22T18:40:13-04:00

Here is your refund, hand them a nickel. There are 330 Million Americans, roughly half are working. My paycheck is X amount of dollars, divide that by 165 million people that tells you how much influence you have on me. BTW keep the change.

Response by PO1 Kerry French made May 22 at 2015 7:00 PM

2015-05-22T19:00:56-04:00

I paid taxes too... so I guess I self funded? I would also remind this rude person that they might pay our salary with their tax money but we defend their freedom and national interests with our lives. What have YOU done for me lately???

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2015 8:10 PM

2015-05-22T20:10:32-04:00

"Good. I've been meaning to talk with you about my raise..."

Response by SFC Erin Barnett made May 22 at 2015 9:28 PM

2015-05-22T21:28:14-04:00

I don't mind it. They do. We all do. However, you voted in the POTUS and he is My Commander In Chief. Take it up with him.

Response by MSgt Seth Trent made May 22 at 2015 9:31 PM

2015-05-22T21:31:39-04:00

I would ask them what the hold up is on my pay increase!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2015 9:33 PM

2015-05-22T21:33:44-04:00

*exasperated look on my face* Why, the nerve of these people...

Response by LCpl Josh McNeill made May 23 at 2015 1:00 AM

2015-05-23T01:00:44-04:00

Well if you can't stand behind us !! Feel free to step in front !!!

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made May 23 at 2015 3:01 AM

2015-05-23T03:01:54-04:00

I would just laugh at them and say, "Yea, good luck with that.", and walk away.

Response by SGT Richard Ellis made May 23 at 2015 9:34 AM

2015-05-23T09:34:14-04:00

Ask them for a raise. I want pay according to the job. Our jobs are alot harder than their hero's the football players, so I want to be paid as much as them

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 11:37 AM

2015-05-23T11:37:52-04:00

You don't "choose to" pay my salary you're "required to" by federal mandate so it seems that we both have to do what "someone" else says but neither of us is the other one's "someone." Now if that is not acceptable to you and you would like to file a complaint regarding your inability to command random service members, you can write to your congress representative.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 2:30 PM

2015-05-23T14:30:39-04:00

I have heard that, I usually just laugh and walk away, its hard for them to re-act to that.

Response by SFC Michael Lemaire made May 23 at 2015 10:42 PM

2015-05-23T22:42:18-04:00

I say that I am semi-self employed as I also pay taxes

Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made May 23 at 2015 10:56 PM

2015-05-23T22:56:13-04:00

laughing at them, then tell them to please talk to the PAO

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 9:04 AM

2015-05-24T09:04:26-04:00

I protect your rights and freedom so that you can have the right to make
a statement like that and if need be, lay down my life so that right can be preserved.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 9:31 AM

2015-05-24T09:31:23-04:00

I pay taxes too. So I also pay my own salary. And I pay for your kid to go to school, when I don't have kids. And the roads you drive on. And the welfare your probably collecting.

Response by PO3 Christopher Winn made May 24 at 2015 5:04 PM

2015-05-24T17:04:14-04:00

I pay taxes too and if im only getting paid by your taxes i need a raise.

Response by Sgt Jeff Napier made May 25 at 2015 9:19 PM

2015-05-25T21:19:01-04:00

Yes, and thanks to me, You have to right to say that!!!!

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2015 11:39 PM

2015-05-25T23:39:16-04:00

I am not ready to engage morons in a serious discussion but my thought would be: and my service allows you to pay taxes to the government we elected - not the one imposed on us.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2015 11:40 AM

2015-05-27T11:40:49-04:00

I would say some like " hey, I pay for your freedom, doesn't that make me your master"

Response by PO1 Sean Reynolds made May 28 at 2015 7:11 AM

2015-05-28T07:11:42-04:00

Yeah it's actually crazy the amount of civilians whom think we don't pay taxes out of our pay checks or retirement pay. I've never heard anyone tell me I work for them as if I did they would get a resounding, NOPE. My oath of enlightenment says nothing about civilians, but does refer to the constitution and the officers appointed over me. Most civilians are just ignorant to the facts...

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2015 6:10 PM

2015-05-30T18:10:57-04:00

*with overly exaggerated excitement* "OH THANK GOODNESS I FOUND YOU!!! I never received my Christmas bonus..." Then hold out my hand with a big smile plastered on my face....

Of course I would never ACTUALLY say this.....but it would be going through my mind...

Response by PO1 Timothy Miller made Jun 1 at 2015 7:02 PM

2015-06-01T19:02:02-04:00

My response to this in the extreme cases where the civilian thought I "owed" them something would have been, "Yes, you pay my salary through taxes but I pay for your freedom to criticize my actions through my service." That usually left them with nothing further to say.

Response by PO1 Donald Hammond made Jun 1 at 2015 7:11 PM

2015-06-01T19:11:46-04:00

Yep, heard that one a few times. Answer was always "can I get a raise?"

Of course one that confused me was when a lifelong welfare lady told me that. I was like "HUH?"

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2015 7:33 PM

2015-06-01T19:33:53-04:00

I usually tell them I recently learned that some watermelons can be yellow inside.

Response by LTC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2015 10:56 PM

2015-06-01T22:56:36-04:00

I've gotten that when I was a civilian police officer never as soldier. I did get in trouble by saying " I doubt you pay taxes"

Response by PO3 Wade Linschied made Jun 3 at 2015 10:37 PM

2015-06-03T22:37:09-04:00

Not my response, but I like it: "That's why I make sure to screw off only on the times when you're paying."

Response by PO1 Michael Watson made Jun 10 at 2015 2:03 PM

2015-06-10T14:03:31-04:00

When I was an active Police Officer it was not uncommon to hear those words....I would reach into my pocket and given them their nickel back

Response by PO2 Curtiss Johnson made Jun 11 at 2015 4:09 PM

2015-06-11T16:09:30-04:00

I would say ..."I report to my immediate superiors in my chain of command. You are not in that chain, so NO, I do not have to do what you tell me. Now crawl back under the rock you came from."

Response by MSgt Mike Brown; MBTI-CP; MA, Ph.D. made Jun 12 at 2015 4:57 PM

2015-06-12T16:57:03-04:00

Personally, I wouldn't engage in this debacle, as there is an ulterior motive abound.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 16 at 2015 2:48 PM

2015-06-16T14:48:10-04:00

You pay the Presidents salary, are you boss over him?

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2015 7:51 AM

2015-07-02T07:51:27-04:00

I state that I also pay taxes so your point being is what.

Response by PO2 Katie Benson made Jul 2 at 2015 12:38 PM

2015-07-02T12:38:31-04:00

Thank you

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Jul 9 at 2015 8:22 AM

2015-07-09T08:22:58-04:00

I just say " pay more please, I need a raise"

Response by SSG Keith Cashion made Jul 9 at 2015 10:17 AM

2015-07-09T10:17:25-04:00

That's funny....mine was the complete opposite. I had a SSG tell me and another gentleman that we have a job because of him and we work for him, and he is tired of dealing with retirees. Before I nearly choked the S@#$T out of him, I gave him this response. I stated, "I think you are confused, I applied for and was interviewed for (too which I do not recall seeing you at the interview) and was hired, based on my qualifications. Additionally, please do us a favor and just get out of the Army, do not retire...we would not want you to be associated with all these retirees since you seem to think we are benethe you. The SSG Flipped me off and walked away. This is what we see, this young man has been taught a bad lesson in US and Them.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Jul 9 at 2015 1:28 PM

2015-07-09T13:28:22-04:00

Yep, definitely "I want a raise." would have been my response at the time.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Jul 9 at 2015 6:10 PM

2015-07-09T18:10:56-04:00

Never happened to me in the USAF, but it did later as a deputy sheriff. I had it planned, I had heard all about people saying things like that, but of course didn't expect it when it happened. I was at this guy's house, on a warrant because he didn't show up for his court date to deal with his 4th DUI, and he started up with the fact that he thought I should be pursuing "real" criminals instead of arresting him. For his felony. I went off on the guy all pretend mad, with stuff like "So you're the bastard I've been looking for, I want a raise, dammit, and a new car. Our guns need replacing, too." And so on down the road. After a few minutes of this, we both started laughing. He laughed all the way to jail. Easier to laugh than to fight, hurts much less and doesn't leave any scars.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2015 2:10 AM

2015-07-10T02:10:37-04:00

It's not a tax if it has a specific purpose. Taxes are compulsory contributions to the government as defined by the Supreme Court. Saying '' I pay your taxes, so I pay your salary" is not necessarily true because that is not the nature of taxes ( although it is the economic reality).

The federal government does not balance its budget. Say your salary is a result of the NDAA act from Congress. Through the MPA appropriation it withdraws funds from the U.S. Treasury. The IRS collects revenues and deposits them to the U.S. Treasury. To say you pay my salary would be like saying China and Goldman Sachs pay my salary when they buy U.S. Treasury bonds.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 1:23 PM

2015-08-10T13:23:15-04:00

Oh YOU'RE the only one paying me. in that case, I believe we need to have a talk about me going hourly. I don't get enough money to work this much overtime.

Response by PO1 Matthew Murdock made Aug 10 at 2015 9:47 PM

2015-08-10T21:47:53-04:00

I just remind them that i pay taxes too...

Response by SR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:02 PM

2015-08-25T13:02:09-04:00

Electronic Arts Topic

It's Christmas time. You decided to buy 4 XBox for your children's. (They are located near the Highway, in some sort of boring remote location).

The Xbox bundle includes two multiplayers games: Ghost Recon Black Ops and Madden NFL sports.
You are really "happy" with your Xbox and the games, but one day, after 5 years, you have some problems with the streaming service.

A flashy warning was displayed on your TV screen.
"You have to pay for the service after 5 years".

You try to contact the hotline service center by phone to find a solution. They say "we can't do nothing". Then you try to contact the Xbox main service center with certified mail. They refused to reply.

What are your solutions to the problem? Do you think you have to pay for the 5 years game service?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:50 PM

2015-08-25T13:50:33-04:00

I always respond by saying that I pay taxes as well. Most of the time that neutralizes their argument.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 3 at 2015 7:23 PM

2015-09-03T19:23:11-04:00

I would say, "One or two sugars, Sir? Haha!

Response by PO1 David Crawfoot made Sep 11 at 2015 8:53 PM

2015-09-11T20:53:39-04:00

I need a pay raise.

Response by PO1 Matthew Maxon made Nov 12 at 2015 12:22 PM

2015-11-12T12:22:16-05:00

I've had this happen. I said that I pay taxes too and if you want your penny that goes into my paycheck, I will give it back to you.

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made Nov 19 at 2015 11:46 AM

2015-11-19T11:46:27-05:00

Compare their signature to the one on the Treasury check. Well the ones they used to issue... If it is not the same they are puffing. Never have found anyone whose signature matched...

Response by LtCol Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 26 at 2015 11:56 AM

2015-11-26T11:56:57-05:00

Flip 'em a nickel and tell then you're even.

Response by SGT Bryan O'Reilly made Nov 27 at 2015 2:47 AM

2015-11-27T02:47:22-05:00

I generally say "Yes , you do and it's my honor and privilege to defend you,"I believe that but I also understand that 95% of them have no clue what that really means. So I exercise as much patience as possible but do have to smile at some of the goofy questions I have been asked. bless their pointed little heads.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 27 at 2015 1:33 PM

2015-11-27T13:33:43-05:00

Sir, I probably make more than you! :P

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Nov 30 at 2015 9:44 PM

2015-11-30T21:44:59-05:00

I get this one a lot on the civilian side. But I have not got it on the military side. My standard answer is that since I pay taxes too, I pay my own salary. Since I make a decent amount of money and usually its low life's that question me, I tell them that since I pay more taxes then they do, my decision as a tax payer has more weight than theirs. Then I say, "press hard, 3 copies" as they are signing the citation.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Nov 30 at 2015 9:50 PM

2015-11-30T21:50:01-05:00

First I would tell them....I pay taxes too! Then I would say...and I serve my country and I protect your freedom. BOO YA!.....and I might add....I get paid PEANUTS, but I STILL VOLUNTEERED and took the job and I serve with PRIDE and HONOR....what do you do???....and then I would try not to slap them. UGH....lol

Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Dec 1 at 2015 6:33 AM

2015-12-01T06:33:58-05:00

Well I pay my own salary as I pay taxes myself!

Response by MCPO Ed Armstrong made Dec 3 at 2015 1:47 PM

2015-12-03T13:47:18-05:00

i do not think you make enough to do that..............LOL

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2016 4:21 PM

2016-01-03T16:21:27-05:00

"Well you pay me defend this country, and I do. When you pay a plumber you don't get to continue to tell him what to do once the plumbing is fixed, and he is not going to work on anything else if you aren't paying him more for it."

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2016 4:22 PM

2016-01-03T16:22:13-05:00

And I earned it.

Response by James Adair made Jan 3 at 2016 5:55 PM

2016-01-03T17:55:29-05:00

Though i am not in the military i would never say that to a service member.....democrats say that

Response by SSgt Terry P. made Jan 4 at 2016 2:20 AM

2016-01-04T02:20:36-05:00

PO1 John Miller Answer--Well you are late,again.

Response by CPT Keith Steinhurst made Jan 4 at 2016 7:56 AM

2016-01-04T07:56:01-05:00

My response . . . "DING - NO! Wrong Answer, but thank you for playing anyway! And since this is an enviable teachable moment, I take my orders from the Chain of Command (which you are not in) and my salary from the Defense Finance and Accounting Service (which, unless you are a civil servant employed by the agency, you are not a part of) . . ." Now, so that you are a well informed citizen, yes, we (generally, all of us) pay taxes, to the US Treasury, and then our elected representatives decide how that will be spent. Now you know and knowledge is half the battle - the other half is knowing the right time and place to deploy that knowledge - they call that wisdom - here endeth the lecture - pax vobis!

Response by Sgt Robert Rivard made Jan 4 at 2016 10:07 AM

2016-01-04T10:07:39-05:00

When I was in, in 1967, I was getting 19 cents an hour. When I got out in 1971 I was making 129.00 every 2 weeks!!! No one ever told me that!!! If they would have I would have said I need one hell of a pay raise!!!!

Response by SP5 Steve Sullemger made Oct 30 at 2016 2:39 PM

2016-10-30T14:39:54-04:00

Yes and I earn it by protecting your freedom

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Nov 3 at 2016 2:17 PM

2016-11-03T14:17:43-04:00

My response would be, "I pay taxes too and protecting our country as well!"

Response by MAJ Anne McGee made Nov 3 at 2016 3:08 PM

2016-11-03T15:08:15-04:00

I'm no longer active but I would have to tell them that they owe me a raise with back pay, lol!!

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Nov 7 at 2016 9:28 AM

2016-11-07T09:28:22-05:00

Really? I pay my salary, too....so that makes me kind of self-employed. So with your logic I can give myself a raise because we both know I'm way underpaid to begin with.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA made Nov 27 at 2016 3:49 PM

2016-11-27T15:49:50-05:00

My response would be: "With all due respect, you pay a very small portion along with all the other taxpayers, to include myself - and you are not in my chain of command." If the conversation goes beyond this, I would suggest they sign up if they wish to be in my chain of command. (Note that I have yet to encounter anyone seriously saying this sort of thing).

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2016 6:50 PM

2016-11-30T18:50:04-05:00

Knee jerk reaction is to get ugly and maybe ask something like "what have you done for USA lately?" or "Yes and I earn every penny of it". Depends on tone of questioner, but we are expected to at least try to be goodwill ambassadors with the public. If it's a wise guy they often are baiting folks and have a pal with a smartphone filming, and you trashing them on youtube with a million hits might not be a good career move. That's assuming this is not some creep jumping on a burning flag, calling you a baby-killer etc because that's a challenge for even the most patient. If not, just try to be tactful if they are, and remind them that you pay taxes also and you make many sacrifices to protect the USA. If it's someone being snarky, just tell them that when you took your Oath you wrote a check to the Nation for an amount up to and including your life. If that doesn't do it, do yourself a favor and walk away because it's not worth an assault charge and all the costs that go with it. Best wishes.

Response by Robert Santos made Jun 16 at 2021 7:18 PM

2021-06-16T19:18:44-04:00

My normal response? "In that case if you break the law I will arrest you for free".

Response by Stone Harper made Jul 19 at 2021 2:17 AM

2021-07-19T02:17:00-04:00

I am a teacher and have had people tell me this before. After a while you just have to ignore them, they’re wrong and it’s usually not worth your time to show them that! Let them live in their bullshit reality and continue on with your day! It gets easier the longer you work a government job.