Posted on Dec 17, 2013
If an NCO approached you asking about staying Enlisted vs Warrant vs Officer, what would you say?
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If an NCO or junior enlisted Soldier approached you with the aforementioned question, what advice would you recommend and why?
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</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">SSG Hasbun,</font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">=) I can’t
help it but back in the day when I did my last promotion board. One of the
questions asked was "What is LEADERSHIP?" Leadership is influencing
people by providing purpose, direction, and motivation while operating to
accomplish the mission and improving the organization. <o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Leadership
is not a skill set that is cornered by NCOs, Warrant Officers or Generalist
Officers. I ask that you please not say Warrant Officers are not Leaders.
Thru our Technical Skill set we do indeed provide purpose, direction, and
motivation IOT accomplish the CDR’s mission. <o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Here is
how I look at it:<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If you
think that person would be the great as the next CSM of the Army, Air Force, Navy
or Marines one day… Then Please stay Enlisted.<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If they REALLY
enjoy their current job and DO NOT want to PROMOTE themselves out of that Skill
or environment… Then Please go Warrant. Even after I am promoted to CW5 I will
stay in the maintenance field “for the most part”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If you can
see yourself serving under them as your Commander one day… Then Please go Green-to-Gold.<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">We ALL
LEAD soldiers in one way or another… I would just look at what that persons
future goals are. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">SSG Hasbun,</font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">=) I can’t
help it but back in the day when I did my last promotion board. One of the
questions asked was "What is LEADERSHIP?" Leadership is influencing
people by providing purpose, direction, and motivation while operating to
accomplish the mission and improving the organization. <o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Leadership
is not a skill set that is cornered by NCOs, Warrant Officers or Generalist
Officers. I ask that you please not say Warrant Officers are not Leaders.
Thru our Technical Skill set we do indeed provide purpose, direction, and
motivation IOT accomplish the CDR’s mission. <o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Here is
how I look at it:<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If you
think that person would be the great as the next CSM of the Army, Air Force, Navy
or Marines one day… Then Please stay Enlisted.<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If they REALLY
enjoy their current job and DO NOT want to PROMOTE themselves out of that Skill
or environment… Then Please go Warrant. Even after I am promoted to CW5 I will
stay in the maintenance field “for the most part”<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">If you can
see yourself serving under them as your Commander one day… Then Please go Green-to-Gold.<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><o:p><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="3"><font color="#000000">We ALL
LEAD soldiers in one way or another… I would just look at what that persons
future goals are. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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MSG Morgan,<div><br></div><div>I once had dinner with Colonel who had been all of the above. His words As an enlisted man he wanted to make changes and couldn't. As a Warrant he couldn't make large changes but the Officers listened more to him. Then as an Officer there was still people who didn't care what he said. But he could influence more by setting the example and leading all under him. </div><div><br></div><div>Just a thought.</div><div><br></div><div>V/R</div><div><br></div><div>1SG Haro</div>
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Interesting point. A LTC I was deployed with was enlisted, attended OCS and subsequently became commissioned. Prior to leaving OEF, he wanted to change from Officer to Warrant in order to remain on active duty longer.
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This is a very tough question because it depends on each and every soldier and how well you know them. I've helped soldier with warrnat packets, PA packets, and they are all very different.
I would encourage a soldier to stay enlisted if I think he has great interpersonal skills with dealing with "soldier" issues. It is important for senior leaders to not only know Soldier's but know why they do what they do. They need someone who can relate to them and empathize.
The only Warrant I've ever helped was for flight school. He just wanted to be a pilot. Too easy.
Officers I've helped were just great nurses/medics that showed an ability to take their education to a higher level. They not only were good at what they did but understood why they were doing it. They wanted to do more.
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