Posted on Feb 2, 2017
SGT PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer
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I have heard stories of people bringing personal ar15 uppers for use in Iraq and Afghanistan, but have seen no proof that this is allowed. Where could I find the answer or does anyone have an answer for this, its not technically a "modification" to the weapon itself.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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No,. not even a little bit allowed.
Done, sure Im sure it has been.

I know of a SGT that took a side arm to a little conflict in Panama once...but authorized it was not...and having to ask your Regimental commander to hand carry it back as he was the only one that was not searched by customs was not a fun request to be made....it was later taken in stride and understood why, with no lasting negative ramifications,,,but that was luck of circumstances...said SGT very well could have been Court Marshaled, demoted and received a BCD instead of having a long and fulfilling service .
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MSgt George Cater
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Peacetime in the 70's at Camp Lejuene, but it reminds me of another factual situation. I knew a 03 Captain on the Pistol Team who when he had a rifle company in 2nd MarDiv, always carried 1 or more mags of live ammo for his pistol when his company went to the field for tac ops. His logic was that since anyone can drive into many of Lejuene's training areas right from the off base roads, he was not going to have a couple of armed good ole boys in a pickup drive up and make off with 100+ M-16s, 27 M-249s, 6 M-60s, 19 M-9s, plus 203s, SMAWs & 60mm mortars, radios, NVGs, etc. He said he'd much rather be court martialed for defending his Marines and the government property than for losing their weapons. (I agreed. It always amazed me how vulnerable things were in non-live fire areas at CLNC.)

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SGM Erik Marquez
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LTC (Join to see) - "I know exactly what you mean...I made many a decision as a young NCO that when I look back on them now I am either like, "Damn, what was I thinking?" or "Damn, I was lucky!" In all reality is usually a combo of both, but in the end it all worked out all right, and if nothing else those decisions served as great learning experiences!"

Sir I mostly credit my Senior NCOs and the officers in my chain of command who were wise enough to see the "good" in what I had done in those serious situations, and help me understand why it was not the better choice..vice just punishing because they could.
What they created, was someone that grew up to be able to do the same...

Yes I "Verbally assaulted" more then a few when they were caught doing something stupid...... But that and why it was dumb, and what would have been a better choice were always included, and then it was over.
a GO once told me, "Get mad, let them know why and what right looks like then get over it. Son, what they do Next time is what matters"
I spent a lot of years truing to emulate that.. I wont say I got it right each and every time... There was the SM that hit his son and broke his arm... I only got the "Get Mad" part on that one.... There was the SM that falsely accused her spouse of child molestation in effort to draw attention away from his testimony she was a thief, adulterer and habitual lier .. I may have missed the "get over it part" on that one as well.
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GySgt Melissa Gravila
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SGM Erik Marquez - a lot of times its a ask for forgiveness instead of permission sort of thing. IMO it's the sign of a leader to know when to yank the chain and when to pull out the pen.js
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SGM Erik Marquez
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GySgt Melissa Gravila - Gunny, it is for sure, it is an unfortunate fact of life it takes lots experience to learn that, and that by definition means junior NCO's and Officers screw it up.. With luck there is a more experienced NCO or officer on hand to take the Junior one aside and explain why the sky is not really falling, no one died, let them learn from it. I got lucky and had that... ate crow, went back, worked though what "they" learned, and moved on.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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What part of no isn't understood? You're issued a weapon, got a problem with it, you got an armor, you know that dud who knows the ins and outs of said weapon. Deal with it.
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MSG Mark Million
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Good Idea.
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SGM Erik Marquez - I will do that, Thank You SGM.
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SGT Tim Soyars - I will take yours and SGM's advice.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
SGM Mikel Dawson
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And this is why we got Rally Point - to help each other out with the knowledge we got
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SFC Bill Sakowski
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Is the upper a brand that the government contracts with already? Where are you going to secure your issued upper? Have you spoken to your PS or PL about it. Would it improve your mission capabilities? Or is this just an attempt to be an operator operating operationally?
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Nice alliteration!
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