Is it true that CID soldiers receive BAH and live off post?

2017-10-14T22:48:29-04:00

I was told that CID soldiers aren't allowed to live in the barracks with everyday soldiers because it's a conflict of interest. Is this true? Do they live off post?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2017 11:41 PM

2017-10-14T23:41:31-04:00

CID is no different than any other soldier regarding housing. Some live on post and some live off post.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2017 12:23 AM

2017-10-15T00:23:02-04:00

they don't have a large unit and therefore don't have a barracks building to stay it. However they can stay on post unless there is some local rule that prohibits it I have known CID agents to live in on post housing.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2017 8:46 AM

2017-10-15T08:46:40-04:00

Who told you this - under what circumstances - and what was their motivation?
In my generation they were like any other solider - no conflict of interest issues.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 15 at 2017 8:56 AM

2017-10-15T08:56:07-04:00

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Someone is citing a local policy perhaps, not an AR. Or more likely mistaken or pulling your leg.
At most posts the attempt is to group units barracks resident in the same building or area.
So while the CID unit may only have 5 members that are in the barracks and thus not have an assigned building.. they are part of a larger unit in the garrison and THAT unit likely does have an assigned building.... So that CID SM might be living next to a MP on one side and the post EO rep on the other with a cook across the hall.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2017 5:55 PM

2017-10-17T17:55:32-04:00

I can tell you that is not the case. When I was in the 525th MI at Fort Bragg we had soldiers from an MP unit in a portion of our barracks. There were some CID agents that lived in the barracks with us. I do recall we had some issues with them once. I could see where the could be a conflict of interest. This guy was a bit too serious and tried to flex on some soldiers senior to him. It didn't end well for him.

Response by SSG Jeremy Sharp made Oct 17 at 2017 6:24 PM

2017-10-17T18:24:15-04:00

Over my career as an MP I knew and worked with several CID assigned personnel. Many lived in post housing and BEQ/BOQ as well as off post. I am not sure that there was any regulation concerning this. I did know a female lower enlisted support staff assigned to CID office that lived in the MP barracks but she was not an Agent.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2017 11:35 AM

2017-10-23T11:35:25-04:00

AR 195-2 states:
3–28. Billets and messes
a. Enlisted USACIDC special agents and laboratory examiners must be billeted with other USACIDC personnel in facilities separate from other Soldiers, or in senior bachelor enlisted or bachelor officer quarters. If a lack of suitable facilities precludes this policy, USACIDC special agents will be provided statements of non-availability to support claims for basic allowance for housing (BAH) or per diem, as appropriate in accordance with AR 420–1.

Special Agents must be billeted separately (unless suitable facilities cannot be obtained) such as billeting in a deployed environment etc. The reason for this summed up by this example:

Soldier and Agent live in a stairwell. The soldier comes under investigation. Now the soldier has leverage due to knowing the Agents family and child (perhaps) which can lead to retaliatory actions. No Agent wants to place their family in danger. Imagine if every criminal knows where the family of the cop who put them behind bars lives?

The Army Regulation is put in place because it has happened before.

Response by SFC Sean Chambers made Nov 26 at 2017 1:12 PM

2017-11-26T13:12:59-05:00

As a retired CID Agent this is true. Agents do not live in barracks. They receive BAH; if married they can elect to live on post. Further, CID is not part of any other unit on post. They are a tenant organization. They are not part of the MPs like most think

Response by SPC Diana D. made Nov 26 at 2017 1:17 PM

2017-11-26T13:17:13-05:00

Take it from experience, I worked for CID at Fort Sill years ago and I was the only single soldier assigned to the unit as administrative, and we tried bunking me with the MP's. Every time an MP got in trouble they would always look my way!!!! It did NOT last long!!!

Response by SSG Charlie Carlson made Dec 2 at 2017 1:26 AM

2017-12-02T01:26:37-05:00

I was CID and lived on post but fellow agents could live off post and even those that were single could have on post housing as well. Depends on the host command.