Is the person pinning a Soldier supposed to be equal or higher rank than the rank you are getting promoted to (other than family)? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am used to this being the normal. It is highly irregular to have an PVT pin SFC rank on a SSG that is getting promoted. I was always brought up that the person pinning you was equal or higher to welcome you into their ranks. I have researched in the 600-8-19 and can not get a solid answer. Is it generally up to Commander? Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:35:30 -0400 Is the person pinning a Soldier supposed to be equal or higher rank than the rank you are getting promoted to (other than family)? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am used to this being the normal. It is highly irregular to have an PVT pin SFC rank on a SSG that is getting promoted. I was always brought up that the person pinning you was equal or higher to welcome you into their ranks. I have researched in the 600-8-19 and can not get a solid answer. Is it generally up to Commander? SSG Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:35:30 -0400 2016-08-18T12:35:30-04:00 Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 12:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1816523&urlhash=1816523 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There was a Senior Chief that was promoted to Master Chief on my last ship. He had the most senior and most junior enlisted pin him. SCPO Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:39:44 -0400 2016-08-18T12:39:44-04:00 Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Aug 18 at 2016 12:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1816530&urlhash=1816530 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have been led to believe it is up to the person being promoted. SSG Ed Mikus Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:40:27 -0400 2016-08-18T12:40:27-04:00 Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Aug 18 at 2016 1:11 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1816657&urlhash=1816657 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the lower ranking individual is related to the one receiving the higher rank, I would see no problem( son, nephew, niece, or daughter) that are also serving. SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:11:12 -0400 2016-08-18T13:11:12-04:00 Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Aug 18 at 2016 1:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1816746&urlhash=1816746 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I always preferred someone throwing it a me and I would pin it on myself. SFC Joseph Weber Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:31:10 -0400 2016-08-18T13:31:10-04:00 Response by SGT David T. made Aug 18 at 2016 1:58 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1816894&urlhash=1816894 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've always been under the impression it was up to the person getting pinned. SGT David T. Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:58:13 -0400 2016-08-18T13:58:13-04:00 Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 2:26 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1817014&urlhash=1817014 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I do not believe that the Marine Corps has any specific order on it. 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:26:43 -0400 2016-08-18T14:26:43-04:00 Response by 1SG Mike Case made Aug 18 at 2016 2:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1817076&urlhash=1817076 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is your promotion so you get decide who pins you. 1SG Mike Case Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:46:51 -0400 2016-08-18T14:46:51-04:00 Response by SPC Timothy Repetto made Aug 18 at 2016 3:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1817252&urlhash=1817252 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Could be a motivational tactic. If I was that PFC I would definitely be thinking to myself, this will be me one day. Nothing wrong with it. Hats off to the private for having the military bearing to make the ceremony successful. SPC Timothy Repetto Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:37:49 -0400 2016-08-18T15:37:49-04:00 Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 3:54 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1817309&urlhash=1817309 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What is the PVT is a family member or had a huge impact in their life. Rank does not matter it is up to the person who they want to pin them. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:54:50 -0400 2016-08-18T15:54:50-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 6:29 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1817788&urlhash=1817788 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I went round and round with my 1SG about this. When I made SSG, I chose my most challenging soldier to pin me. He had challenged me in every aspect of Leadership and Mentorship, overcoming marriage, drinking, and work problems. I molded him into an outstanding soldier, husband and father, as well as a dedicated NCO later on down the road. Without his "issues" I would not have been able to develop myself to the Leader I am now in respect to dealing with Soldiers and their problems. Eventually, 1SG trumped me, and my Rater ended up pinning me at the last minute. On a good note, I did get to thank him back when he asked me to welcome him to the Corps when he made cutoff for SGT, and I was able to proudly share those sentiments with him and all our peers. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:29:17 -0400 2016-08-18T18:29:17-04:00 Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Aug 18 at 2016 10:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1818354&urlhash=1818354 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It Is Suppose To The Same Or Higher Unless They Are A Family Member. SGT Charles Bartell Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:05:22 -0400 2016-08-18T22:05:22-04:00 Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Aug 18 at 2016 10:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1818364&urlhash=1818364 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the SM getting promoted should be free to allow any SM of any rank or even a civilian to pin their rank on as spouses sometimes do. SSG (ret) William Martin Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:09:26 -0400 2016-08-18T22:09:26-04:00 Response by SFC Dave Mccain made Aug 19 at 2016 9:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1819386&urlhash=1819386 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my humble opinion. It is entirely up to the person being pinned. In truth, only the commander is the promotion authority, so anyone pinning is representing the commander. SFC Dave Mccain Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:50:19 -0400 2016-08-19T09:50:19-04:00 Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Sep 28 at 2016 1:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=1928765&urlhash=1928765 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-111368"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Is+the+person+pinning+a+Soldier+supposed+to+be+equal+or+higher+rank+than+the+rank+you+are+getting+promoted+to+%28other+than+family%29%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIs the person pinning a Soldier supposed to be equal or higher rank than the rank you are getting promoted to (other than family)?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="111847c9e06b17d973b911be71091240" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/111/368/for_gallery_v2/4482838d.PNG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/111/368/large_v3/4482838d.PNG" alt="4482838d" /></a></div></div>When I was promoted to SMSgt Colonel Moore, Director of Security Police at Hq, Air Force Systems Command, Andres AFB, MD shown here slid the rank insignia over My left should, My wife Joanne did the right shoulder. Also being promoted was Nichols Zallas, to Major, He like the idea of involving My wife in the ceremony and He did the same thing. We were both assigned to the 3245th Security Police Squadron (AFSC) at Hanscom AFB, MA where this took place. SMSgt Lawrence McCarter Wed, 28 Sep 2016 01:07:55 -0400 2016-09-28T01:07:55-04:00 Response by SPC Juli Henry made Mar 24 at 2020 6:45 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-the-person-pinning-a-soldier-supposed-to-be-equal-or-higher-rank-than-the-rank-you-are-getting-promoted-to-other-than-family?n=5698408&urlhash=5698408 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is up to the person being promoted. My son and daughter pinned their dad. SPC Juli Henry Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:45:46 -0400 2020-03-24T18:45:46-04:00 2016-08-18T12:35:30-04:00