Is there a list of Motorcycle clubs banned from post, or a list of clubs not to join as a SM? Can I wear my club vest on post?

2019-08-20T03:03:24-04:00

Is there a list of Motorcycle clubs banned from post, or a list of clubs not to join as a SM? Can I wear my club vest on post? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Response by PO1 H Gene Lawrence made Aug 20 at 2019 4:56 AM

2019-08-20T04:56:02-04:00

Not sure that if I was a SM that I would want to take a chance and join any group

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2019 5:17 AM

2019-08-20T05:17:50-04:00

Different bases have different rules for colors on post. You also need to take into account do you want to advertise you're in a club? Will your affiliation with a club hinder your career? Every year the FBI puts out the OMG report, the last half of the report is SMs and contractors that have security clearances and work for Uncle Sam. May not be something your club wanted attention for.
The only real regulations that cover this sort of thing is 600-20 that talk about extremist groups. Traditional MC, while nothing official in by laws, are segregated. This could be enough for commanders to step in and make life difficult for you.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Aug 20 at 2019 7:26 AM

2019-08-20T07:26:51-04:00

Do not be stupid.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Aug 20 at 2019 8:00 AM

2019-08-20T08:00:29-04:00

The short answer NO, not at an Army level. Check with your motorcycle mentor, BN or higher, ask for specific post polices on the issues you are asking about
Here are some other RP discussion on the subject ...Just keep in mind, what is true for Post A is likely not true for Post B. What was true for post B 18 months ago may be changed with the new post / MACOM commander
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/does-the-army-publish-a-list-of-banned-motorcycle-clubs-or-is-that-at-the-discretion-of-each-post?loc=similar_main&pos=3&type=qrc

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-list-of-all-of-the-motorcycle-clubs-that-are-off-limits-to-military-personnel?loc=similar_main&pos=4&type=qrc

Does the Army publish a list of banned motorcycle clubs or is that at the discretion of each...

Specifically for Active Duty Service Members

Response by SFC Michael D. made Aug 20 at 2019 8:05 AM

2019-08-20T08:05:16-04:00

Just a little education for those who say "Don't be stupid". There are several types of Motorcycle Clubs/Riding Clubs. The Law abiding clubs don't just form up and become a club without an OMG or (1%) Club allowing them to do so because they are the dominant club in that region. I am in an MC and we do wear our colors on Post/Base. Want to know more? Read here:

http://rcvsmc.net/id2.html

MC Club Basics

The intent of this section is to give you an overview of the structure and philosophy of the traditional motorcycle club (MC). This does not necessarily express the feelings or priorities of any particular club, as all motorcycle clubs differ on some points. Regardless of the basic philosophy of this group, it is important that you understand the perspectives of other clubs that you may be associating with from time to time.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 20 at 2019 9:40 AM

2019-08-20T09:40:27-04:00

Please don't... Motorcycle clubs are just Boomer cosplay. No one thinks you're cool or tough, only that you're not approaching middle age gracefully.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2019 11:32 AM

2019-08-20T11:32:06-04:00

This question was answered in depth with detailed references. Suggest searching for that one.
Answer is: It depends, you haven't provided enough information.
And if you don't know whether or not any organization you are a member of, outside of the military, are, or would have a reason to be, prohibited from banned or from your membership, you should consider changing the sequence of decision making and action taking.
Join an organization, then determine if you are prohibited from joining is backwards.
(Note. Based on my sometimes dependable memory, there wasn't a list, and I doubt many MCs would be prohibited.)

Response by SFC Michael D. made Aug 20 at 2019 2:27 PM

2019-08-20T14:27:47-04:00

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/147691NCJRS.pdf

147691NCJRS.pdf

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Aug 20 at 2019 3:36 PM

2019-08-20T15:36:42-04:00

How difficult is it to ask that question at the Garrison Commanders' office, Provost Marshall's office, or JAG? See, simple; sometimes it might even be found on the posts web page/Facebook page.

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 20 at 2019 4:44 PM

2019-08-20T16:44:22-04:00

You better be darn careful there. There are many good motorcycle clubs I'm sure, but it is a really gray area between gangs and clubs.

Response by MSG Reid Zohfeld made Aug 20 at 2019 6:26 PM

2019-08-20T18:26:33-04:00

Bottom Line if you have to ask Don’t wear it Just read about civilian workers that are not at work and are fired for not adherence to standards

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 21 at 2019 8:02 AM

2019-08-21T08:02:18-04:00

Here is an interesting article about this topic.

Response by SFC Bryan Livasy made Aug 26 at 2019 1:00 PM

2019-08-26T13:00:22-04:00

Wore mine for 12 years including 3 at Ft Knox ..never had an issue, and skip all the hooplah from the SOA affectionados .... And the negative 3 piece comments, it's evident they never earned one and can only go off what they see on TV and hear on they news

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