Is there a requirement to have two separate leave forms, one for PCS leave and another for PTDY?

2016-03-15T16:01:41-04:00

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 4:14 PM

2016-03-15T16:14:14-04:00

If your leave form was filled out for PTDY with battalion CDR signature once you get your housing stamp your PTDY starts. Doesn't matter when you do it.

Response by CPT Mark Gonzalez made Mar 15 at 2016 4:17 PM

2016-03-15T16:17:33-04:00

They can definitely go on the same form, but you may be dealing with a local issue. A company level commander can sign a normal PCS leave, but you'll need an O-6, unless delegated, to sign a PTDY.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 4:24 PM

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No. You slot all of the days together and then specify in the comments block. That's what I've always done, and that's what everyone that has come in or out of all three of my past units has done.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 4:28 PM

2016-03-15T16:28:50-04:00

I believe there's a disconnect will information getting to the SM, yes it can be combined on one form. Though if the Soldier does not report to the Post Housing office prior to beginning the last 10 days of hisor her authorized leave, which is in conjunction with the regular leave, he or she will be charged those ten days, regardless of them using it for house hunting. My suggestion would be to have two leave forms IOT prevent confusion among junior Soldiers.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 4:48 PM

2016-03-15T16:48:44-04:00

Some units may have a local SOP, but in general, no, the PTDY is annotated in the "Remarks" block, along with the "PTDY Statement."

The reg (AR 600-8-10 Ch. 5-32) states:
"(7) Soldier is authorized to take PTDY for house hunting after written notification of PCS orders, but prior to departure on PCS.
(8) Soldier is authorized to take PTDY for house hunting en route together with leave and travel.
(9) Soldier is authorized to take PTDY for house hunting after arriving at gaining station.
(10) May be taken in increments up to the maximum authorized.
(11) Soldier must report to the gaining on-post housing office prior to starting house hunting. Failure to do so will result in Soldier being charged leave for entire period. Soldier who has unaccompanied or nonconcurrent travel entitlement OCONUS and is authorized house hunting CONUS must report to the on-post housing office at the CONUS installation where PTDY is authorized for house hunting prior to starting house hunting. Failure to do so results in Soldier being charged leave for the entire period."

Sample PTDY Statement for Block 17:
"I understand that this absence is not directed by any U.S. Government official. I further understand that I cannot conduct public business under this authorization. Accordingly, I will not be entitled to reimbursement for travel, per diem, or any other expenses. I understand that I have the right to cancel it at any time and return to my regular place of duty. PDTY _________ to __________."

(You fill in the PTDY dates, they are to be the last 10 days of the requested leave time up to the report date.)

Response by SFC Benjamin Harrison made Mar 15 at 2016 6:05 PM

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This is not a requirement, the PTDY will be annotated in the remarks section of the DA 31. The only caveat is that a LTC or above must sign off as the approval authority for the leave since PTDY is requested. AR 600-8-10 provides further guidance on this subject.

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Mar 15 at 2016 8:05 PM

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What is a PTDY?
If it's a pass, why don't they call it a pass

Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Mar 15 at 2016 8:50 PM

2016-03-15T20:50:38-04:00

yes when you're putting in your retirement paperwork

Response by SFC Rollie Hubbard made Mar 15 at 2016 11:54 PM

2016-03-15T23:54:10-04:00

No there is not.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 11:59 PM

2016-03-15T23:59:25-04:00

Okay the answer has been addressed, no further comment needed, thank you for your input

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2016 12:00 AM

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Does it really take multiple people to answer the same damn question! Hello!

Response by SPC James Dollins made Mar 16 at 2016 12:59 AM

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When I did it I put the 10 days PTDY in the comments block.. No idea if that has changed..

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2016 2:31 PM

2016-03-16T14:31:16-04:00

I have always had to have two.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 3:59 PM

2016-03-17T15:59:47-04:00

No further comments!!

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Mar 17 at 2016 5:29 PM

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From what I have seen, if they are going contiguous, no you don't. You would create a DA31 with the leave and PTDY in it's entirety, but in the comments section give the dates of PTDY and actual amount of days chargeable leave you are taking. You will need an O-5 (usually the BC) or higher to sign for it though. If you are doing non-contiguous, then yes, you will need to have a separate one for each.

Response by Mike Arienti made Sep 13 at 2017 12:25 PM

2017-09-13T12:25:18-04:00

Yes. Each type of leave must be recorded on a separate form.