Can I be flagged for not taking an ACFT while on a temporary profile?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 19:47:22 -0500

I'm currently I'm on a temporary profile and awaiting surgery for a osteochondrial defect in a couple months. Last week i was told i would be getting flagged on April 1, 2023 for not taking a ACFT. Im currently on a temporary profile and cannot take? Can they still flag me while on profile?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2023 7:59 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 19:59:00 -0500

No. Just no. You, being on a temp profile cannot be administered a Record ACFT. Since you cannot be administered a Record ACFT, you cannot be flagged for an ACFT that you have not taken nor can take. Talk with Legal. In fact, have a chat with IG. The fact that your Command is talking about future flagging you for something you cannot medically do....that's just dumbassery

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Feb 26 at 2023 12:10 AM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 00:10:20 -0500

I would check all the wickets before you escalate.

The short answer is no they can't flag you but details matter. What is the current expiration state of your temp profile? Make sure it doesn't expire. If that means running down your PCP to get an updated profile do that.

Who told you that there would be a flag? If it was someone low on the totem pole go up a level higher. If it was someone of higher pedigree go through your leadership and potentially IG.

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Feb 26 at 2023 3:59 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:59:57 -0500

They can't flag you for THAT, but your chain of command & NCO support channel might try to justify that flag with something else you may have done (or didn't do) and do it under the guise of not taking an ACFT. Now if your chain of command & NCO support channel are pulling some kind of shenanigans (it looks like it from here), then I suggest talking to legal or IG about it. Good luck.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 26 at 2023 4:53 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:53:13 -0500

"Last week i was told"
Let me guess this was a training room, Squad leader, Section leader or PSG that told you this?

Not a commander or 1SG, who knows without a doubt they can not force you to take a fitness test while on a physical profile for a physically limiting condition. (A positive profile does not automatically excuse you from a ACFT, but most do....if you have a profile for not driving at night as an example, that would not exclude you from a record ACFT)

Ask to speak to your 1SG, and tell that 1SG you are looking forward to being healthy and taking your record AFCT.......and then........Eat right, train as you are able to, and recover from surgery with a mission mind set..then smash the AFCT.

Response by 1SG Joseph Dartey made Feb 26 at 2023 4:55 PM

1SG Joseph Dartey — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:55:23 -0500

My advise, talk to:

1) Squad Leader,
2) Platoon Sgt,
3) Platoon Ldr,
4) First Sergeant,
5) Company Cdr,
6) Bn/Bde/Div SGM/CSM
7) Bn/Bde/Div Cdr
8) JAG and as a last resort,
9) IG.

Normally someone in your chain of command will get it straightened out, especially if it has to hit the SGM/CSM level.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2023 1:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:51:47 -0500

No - if you have a temporary profile it says on there when you are available to take an ACFT. So, for example, if your profile says you aren't available to take an ACFT until 1 May, then you can't take one until 1 May and they can't flag you before that.

The provider puts on your e profile how long your profile is and when you can take an ACFT. I just had one for jamming my finger during basketball. I had temp profile for 2 weeks and then it also said when I was able to take an ACFT and that until then I was excluded from ACFT.

Also who told you this? Because they're dumb.

Response by CSM William Everroad made Feb 28 at 2023 9:04 AM

CSM William Everroad — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:04:54 -0500

SPC Private RallyPoint Member, like everyone else asked, who is "they"? Short answer no.

The Commander signs flagging paperwork. The Commander reviews all profiles.

Talk to the Commander. (after talking with your Chain of Command see: 1SG Joseph Dartey's list.)