Recall Formations

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 21:06:15 -0500

Has any Soldier experienced an early morning recall formation and the commander announced that he/she is doing a 100% Height/Weight check? Is there a regulation that justify this action?

Response by SSG Zachery Mitchell made Mar 7 at 2014 9:14 PM

SSG Zachery Mitchell — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 21:14:13 -0500

SSG Lorenzo,

I think we have all been in this situation. Usually we are recalled for a UA but I have been recalled for 100% weigh in as well. I am unsure of the regulation but I know I've read it before. I'll look through the ones I have saved and see if I can find you a reference. Basically the commander can recall his unit at anytime he sees fit though.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2014 9:14 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 21:14:39 -0500

Yes, the Commander may conduct one at his/her discretion.

AR600-9

d. Commanders have the authority to direct a body fat assessment on any Soldier that they determine does not present a Soldierly appearance, regardless of whether or not the Soldier exceeds the screening table weight for his or her measured height

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Mar 7 at 2014 9:45 PM

SGM Matthew Quick — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 21:45:29 -0500

I think this is an AWESOME way to spot-check Soldiers remain in accordance with standards!

More commanders should take such initiative.

Response by CSM Guy R. Niles made Mar 9 at 2014 5:39 PM

CSM Guy R. Niles — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:39:53 -0400

Yes Lorenzo, the regulation is AR 600-20, Army Command Policy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2014 7:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:52:57 -0400

Army Command Policy 600-20

4–2. Obedience to orders

All persons in the military service are required to strictly obey and promptly execute the legal orders of their lawful

seniors.

BLUF, if the CDR calls you to a formation to conduct a UA, a body fat test, an APFT, a police call, etc. it is your duty to be there. One may not agree with the CDR's reasoning, but the end of the day our oath of enlistment states that we will obey "the orders of the officers appointed over me" because they are appointed to a position of authority and responsibility. Unless his orders are unlawful, unethical or immoral, than there is no leg to stand on.

If at the end of the day, one is concerned over this issue because they are above the authorized body fat percentage and they were caught off guard and couldn't perform drastic measures to make tape because of no warning, than that's an individual issue. There really is no excuse for this either. Unless one is exempt due to medications that they are on and that is even a tough straw to pull. It is a PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to ensure one is able to pass APFT and height/weight at all times. With recent changes, they can no longer do these within 7 days of each other (unless not feasible), so if you received a surprise height/weight, than I would expect a surprise APFT in the near future.

Response by SGT Eric Knutson made Jul 15 at 2017 11:25 PM

SGT Eric Knutson — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:25:32 -0400

CDR is the boss, in the service we are subject to formation 24/7 I have had ERDEX call ups at 3 am on a Saturday just to see how well phone trees work as well as because the CDR had a case of the butt because a good percentage of the unit had been involved in a bar brawl that morning. showed up in the Rattle, thinking from there we were going to the airfield for deployment. Once assembled there was a UA, and tape tests done on the spot and had paperwork updated. there are a myriad of reasons a formation can be called. Our CO, just happened to make maximum use of the time that was being used, and it all started as a group punishment. (He had been woken up to go to the drunk tank in town, PD wanted the CO because there were so many in trouble) so decided to expand the fun. However, we got a lot of things done that morning that were needing to be done.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2017 1:09 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:09:55 -0400

Thanks for the responses as well as clarification on the topic. It was for a fellow battle buddy.