Should a Junior Enlisted service-member stand at Parade Rest for an NCOs/PO's wife?

2014-10-22T19:43:26-04:00

And continuing the trend. Here's this doozy. Have you heard of this? I have. What do you think?

Combo thread from CPT Private RallyPoint Member and SFC Private RallyPoint Member threads.

Response by SFC Melker Johansson made Oct 22 at 2014 7:44 PM

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*spit out coffee through nose* Thanks a lot!

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 7:47 PM

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Never.

Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Oct 22 at 2014 7:51 PM

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This is a joke, right?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 7:55 PM

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It looks stupid.

Response by SFC James Barnes made Oct 22 at 2014 8:12 PM

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Oh dear god put it down before it breeds.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 8:27 PM

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I think I'm gonna make a noose out of this thread and hang YOU with it >:-@

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 9:50 PM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member I'm a rhinestone Cowboy, getting cards and letters from people that I don't even know"

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 9:53 PM

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"I wonder what happens when she gets a breast deduction". :|

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 10:22 PM

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Ok by a show of likes....how many think I should post the question "Should wives stand at parade rest for General officers' wives?" That way we can get this over with

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 10:35 PM

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OH. EMM. GEEE.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2014 11:08 PM

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I can't stand this. What is wrong with these people. She is just going to get divorced anyway. If I saw her I would tell her how ridiculous she looks.

Response by PO2 Rocky Kleeger made Oct 23 at 2014 12:02 AM

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I like the picture you used...she went full dependa on that one

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Oct 23 at 2014 12:20 AM

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Better hope he doesn't get promoted anytime soon

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Oct 23 at 2014 12:30 AM

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I don't see I would ever have to honor any spouse with standing in Parade Rest. I already say "sir" and "ma'am" and if a spouse demands I stand in Parade Rest I most certainly not entertain that one.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 1:36 AM

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This is so lame. I don't understand it. If they want that rank or recognition so bad why don't they just join. But to tattoo it to your body is really really dumb. DUMB!

Response by SGT Ronald Creech made Oct 23 at 2014 1:53 AM

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No! I feel the same for the officer's spouses. Yes, they should be treated with respect. The spouse didn't sign the contract and shouldn't be treated as a private; however, on the same note the spouse didn't earn the rank that we respect.

Response by CSM Guy R. Niles made Oct 23 at 2014 5:15 AM

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Its a bit much!

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Oct 23 at 2014 5:18 AM

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I guess I'll just have to resign to the fact that these questions will never end.....*sigh*
As to the photo, guess he has a LOT of confidence that hubby will never again be promoted!! Sure, they could add rockers, but they would never match correctly and couldn't be 'shaded' to blend.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 5:29 AM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member,

It sickens me the way people all over the web have been jumping on the bandwagon to attack this poor veteran. Febe Brown says that she spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and that the tattoos are of her own rank, not her husband's.

This image has been all over Facebook for a while, but I didn't expect to find it here on RP. I'm a little embarrassed at the way RP is changing.

Response by SGT Joseph Jones made Oct 23 at 2014 6:25 AM

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No the NCO or PO worked to get the respect not the wife. Maybe greet her like any civilian but not parade rest heck we just salute and keep walking past officers. You don't ask for NFL players wife's autograph you ask for his.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Oct 23 at 2014 6:38 AM

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I wonder what happens if (a) they get divorced (b) she loses her dependent CAC (c) hubby ends up as an E8 or E9? Do those tats come with white-out?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 8:21 AM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member Thank you for the correction on the nature of the photo. We should honor our sister's service and not judge her choice of a rank tattoo. She has ever right to be proud of her service.

Response by SSG Charles Langlois made Oct 23 at 2014 11:11 AM

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It's the military members rank, NOT THE SPOUSES!

Response by SGT Joshua Young made Oct 23 at 2014 11:23 AM

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What happens when he gets promoted? This has got to be the stupidest thing I've heard today and I had to tell someone they didn't have to pay postage for emails.

Response by MSG Sommer Brown made Oct 23 at 2014 11:50 AM

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lol what happens when they get promoted again, or is that a statement about their motivation, drive, and ability to progress. I think it is to each their own, but I CERTAINLY would NEVER. Referring to the picture of the girls tattoo. Now on standing at parade rest for a spouse. Unless that spouse is in uniform and out ranks me Nope, now a senior member present with their spouse by their side I go to parade rest for the uniformed or senior member I know is senior to me if in civilians but not just a spouse because they are married to a senior SM, that diminishes the respect given to that senior person in my eyes, if your willing to do it for "just anyone" who they happen to walk in with. Next we will be standing at parade rest for a 4yr daughter of our general.

Response by SSG Christopher Parrish made Oct 23 at 2014 11:50 AM

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The spouse of a service member has no rank, and therefore should not expect traditional military courtesies.

They should be shown respect, but no more than that of any other American we would come in contact with. I would hope the NCO would not expect this to happen either.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 10:05 PM

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#trashy

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2014 1:53 PM

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The military must have changed since I left, this was never a problem where I was.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2014 9:41 PM

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Seriously... the fk... Your husband/wife earned the rank, not you, get over yourself.

Response by SSG Laureano Pabon made Oct 24 at 2014 11:37 PM

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My response is no.
Now if the wife wants to wear tattoo's of her husbands rank, that's on her thinking she's devoted, I see that is irrational and unrealistic behavior in her part.
Invite me to the divorce when it happens.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2014 10:55 AM

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I said yes just to troll.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2014 12:43 PM

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The service members SO is not a part of the service, therefore she should not get his/her rank tattooed on them. Not only is it stupid, members rank changes, it is disrespectful to other service members. The spouse did not earn the rank so they should not wear it. It is just as disrespectful as spouses wearing their SO's uniform. People these days....

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2014 12:43 PM

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Not a chance!

Response by SPC Debi Donoghue Bacor made Oct 25 at 2014 1:36 PM

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First of all...that is his rank. If she wants some rank to wear then she sign up. Second...hopefully there will be some promotions beyond E-5. Is she going to have the tattoo modified?

Now is this is a tribute because he has been lost...I still don't agree because there should be something more important to remember about the man than his rank.

Sends the wrong message for so many reasons! Dumb!

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Oct 25 at 2014 9:45 PM

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I've heard of "wearing your spouses rank" but...

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Oct 26 at 2014 1:41 AM

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If a person's spouse attempts to overstep their limits and try to tell me my job it will not end well for them.

Response by Sgt Charles A Vroman Jr made Oct 26 at 2014 3:47 AM

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Uhhh.... NO!

Response by Sgt Daniel V. made Oct 26 at 2014 4:55 AM

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I would stand at parade rest for anyone who is being respectful. I am not demoting myself but I have nothing to prove to anyone. What ever I have done I have made sure to do it with dignity. I have not always accomplished that task nor have I always felt the way I do now but if you are respectful I will show my respect for you in a manner consistent with my upbringing in the Marine Corps.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2014 1:55 PM

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She's probably going to regret that if he ever gets promoted...especially if he becomes an officer.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2014 3:59 PM

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Maybe this should just be folded into the thread about saluting a higher ranking officer's wife.

*edited due to additional information re: tattooed spouse photo*
Not a tattoo I would choose, but if that's how she shows her pride in her own service, that's up to her.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2014 4:28 PM

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Unless they're dual military, no.

Response by SSG Tim Everett made Oct 28 at 2014 10:49 AM

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This thread is a joke, right? I don't owe anyone's spouse any military courtesy. To be polite I might have said "sir" or "ma'am" to acknowledge their civilian status, but that's it. Please tell me nobody who serves thinks military customs and courtesies should apply to a spouse.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2014 5:06 AM

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Is this a serious question? Can a police officer's spouse arrest you or write a ticket?
Would you get on a plane that the pilot's spouse is flying? You would of course be respectful to any service member's spouse, but to infer that because they are married to a member more senior then you, they hold some kind of military authority over you is ridiculous. A marriage is a binding contract made as a civilian (that is to say, not in a military capacity). Marital status has very little bearing on you as a service member aside from certain entitlements. I can not refuse orders because I'm married. I am not immune from UCMJ because I'm married. It just does not matter, because that is part of my civilian life. Not to mention, I have seen some Soldiers make rather hasty and "questionable" choices in choosing a spouse. So your asking them to go to Parade Rest at the FRG meetings and give them plenty of singles on Friday nights? All jokes aside, I have seen spouses who try to wear the service member's rank, but that just shows me their ignorance of the military and is (in my opinion) a failure on the service members part to inform them about the chain of command, rank structure, and the pride we have in being the nation's 1%. If they want me to go to parade rest/attention; they better take the oath to enlist, put on a uniform, and have more rank then me.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2014 5:52 AM

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I hate when dependents try to wear their spouse's rank... I'm sorry but NO. They didn't earn that rank and I'll be damned if I stand at parade rest for a civilian.

Response by PO1 Donald Hammond made Oct 30 at 2014 2:25 PM

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Not just HELL no but BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP no. Too many spouses think they have the rank and wield it over the "lower ranked" spouses and military person. Sorry spouse, you aint bleeeeeeeeep when it comes to rank in the military.

Response by SPC Charles Estes made Oct 31 at 2014 2:31 AM

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Be respectful? Yes. Give them the same military courtesy due their husband? NO! A major's wife tried to pull rank when I was at Fort Stewart. Did it within hearing range of the Brigade Commander. She got banned from headquarters and the motorpool. If a field grade officer's wife cannot demand it, an NCO's cannot either. There were certain wives we DID accord the honor, but they knew where to draw the line, they understood that it was voluntary on our parts. A matter of "respect returned".

Response by PFC Zanie Young made Oct 31 at 2014 4:51 PM

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I'll stick to saluting privates in Class As, thank you...

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 4:18 PM

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I dont think I should have to stand at parade rest for a civilian. Thats just me. I may take a hit or two for my poor choice in words. I do however believe in respecting people.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 11:33 AM

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Also, I am in the 67% group. She should have added a few ranks.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2015 12:29 AM

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The problem could be solved! If the military service member puts their spouse in there place!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2015 1:12 PM

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Why is this even a question? Do you have nothing better to do? *smdh*. Somewhere, there's a tree furiously producing oxygen. You need to go apologize to it.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 4:01 AM

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Though the family can be an integral part of any service member's career, it is not their rank and whether it is a 4-star General's wife, the SMA's wife, or my most junior soldier's wife they should all be treated with dignity and respect as a spouse not anything else.

Response by SFC Nikhil Kumra made Feb 5 at 2015 6:33 AM

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Yes, because.... I too.... admit to the occasional trolling

Response by SFC Frank Hartley made Feb 5 at 2015 9:03 AM

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Freaking hell no.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 5 at 2015 9:04 AM

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Had to double check the web URL I was at, thought I had clicked on a Duffelbag link

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 10:36 AM

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SGT Ben Keen, what's with the down-vote?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 10:56 AM

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I wonder what happens when her spouse gets promoted? probably not a big deal to add a rocker, but what if he commissions? Or gets out and joines the AF Reserve?

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Feb 5 at 2015 11:00 AM

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I don't think it 's appropriate to display military rank in this way. My opinion.

Response by Sheryl Verhulst made Feb 5 at 2015 11:42 AM

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Don't even get me started on military wives!

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 12:28 PM

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Just for you SSG Private RallyPoint Member

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 1:26 PM

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I guess she doesn't expect her husband to ever make Staff Sergeant. I weep for humanity, sometimes.

Response by PV2 Alaina Norman made Feb 5 at 2015 4:30 PM

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Ok for the whole parade rest issue, she was military in past and is now a veteran, she is not currently in; nor wearing the uniform (she is a spouse) so not i don't agree that they need to stand at parade rest around her. For the tattoo thing, that's a choice of hers, i don't necessarily agree with location she has it and at ranking of when she got out is fine, i wouldn't be tattooing a rank if they are still in though, because things change.

Response by Sgt James Gooch made Feb 5 at 2015 10:36 PM

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That is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard of.
What has this military come to? We need some moral guidance
and discipline. Another problem is the mis treatment of women
who don't look or act like you.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 10:38 PM

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Hell no. If I was corrected on that by a spouse I'd politely tell them to eat a d.... I don't even believe there should be "significant spouse" parking at the PX/BX/NEX. As a matter of fact, if I see one of those spots open I will purposely park there. The spouse's privledge is being allowed to shop at there in the first place. I have yet to see wounded vet parking at a commissary or PX. Who is making the call as to whom is a significant spouse?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2015 8:27 AM

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You have got to be shitting me.

Response by SPC Nicholas Cureton made Feb 6 at 2015 10:39 AM

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Ha that's never going to happen. There is a different type of respect due to anyone, spouse or otherwise. But it isn't the same type earned by a soldier through service and sacrifice

Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2015 11:16 AM

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What happens when he/she gets promoted or for that matter what happens if they get in trouble and get busted?

Response by SGT Jennifer Dotter made Feb 6 at 2015 11:30 AM

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No. She is not the service member. Enough said. A tattoo of his or her rank? Wow. That's just wrong. Again, she is not the service member. It's dishonorable to even propose such an idea.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2015 4:10 PM

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People are funny, and a woman who would tattoo her husbands rank on her is also funny (and a little sad.) Smile, take a deep breath and treat them the way you would want to be treated... if you derived your self worth from something like your spouses rank.

Response by LCDR Charles White made Feb 6 at 2015 4:17 PM

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They should alway show proper respect but a spouse is not the service member.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2015 2:56 AM

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No.. Why? WTF!? I don't expect anything other than standing up when you shake my hand in civilians. My wife? Geeeze?! Whomever ever tries to enforce such courtesy is a royal qu!€f bag... IMO.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2015 9:25 AM

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No. This is incredibly stupid. The spouse should be treated with respect, like all others, but save the standing at parade rest/attention for the person who actually holds the rank.

Response by SFC Donald LeBlanc made Mar 2 at 2015 2:56 PM

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SSG Redondo, I am hoping this is a Joke. Unless that "wife" is actually an NCO as well - the answer is spelled out in Army Regulations. Thanks for making me laugh, because there seriously could not be one person who would even think to "stand at parade rest" for a civilian spouse.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2015 2:58 PM

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Thanks for the laugh today

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2015 4:27 PM

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No matter the backstory of the picture in the original post. The post and question itself are still a resounding NO. Will I be respectful to any civilian, spouses of servicemembers included. I will not take orders, stand at parade rest, or salute a civilian.

Response by SFC Michael Jackson, MBA made Mar 2 at 2015 4:38 PM

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Our military spouses contribute a lot to our success as a military and I have great respect for them in general. That being said, spouses do not hold any rank and no regulation requires service members to do this, UNLESS the spouse happens to be a military NCO and due the honors aside from the relation.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Mar 2 at 2015 4:45 PM

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The spouse holds no rank, and if they pull the "my husband/wife is a ..." then their significant other should be notified as well. I had a SPC wife come in to the ER one night, and notice that her child with a cold hadn't been seen in over an hour, and demanded to be seen because her husband was a "Sgt"... I "politely" told her that not only did rank hold no bearing in the ER, but that if she wanted to impress me with rank, she should at least make sure that it was higher than my own...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2015 4:53 PM

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You have to be kidding, who in the f*** would ever stand at any position or do s*** a spouse ORDERED them to do..the sponsor needs an a** whoopin

Response by Sgt Joshua Anderson made Mar 2 at 2015 11:13 PM

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I just rage quit. I'm done. That's enough for tonight. Also, who are the ones that put yes just to troll?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2015 11:34 PM

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I just want to know who answered yes and receive an explanation.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 12:18 AM

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Hell fuckin no. Last time I checked, they didn't sign a contract with United States agreeing to pay with up to and including their life.

Response by SFC Kayla Sondrol made Mar 3 at 2015 12:33 AM

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Absolutely not, you don't marry into a rank... YOU EARN IT YOURSELF. If you earned it, but you're a civilian now, why would you make someone stand at parade rest? I know old habits die hard, but if you've never been in and you married a SM you are not entitled to his or her rank whatsoever.

Just my 2c.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 12:36 AM

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I get dog tags... but this is the all time dumbest of all dum dums. Sleeping with one doesn't make you one. Go to basic then talk.

Response by SSG Leonard Johnson made Mar 3 at 2015 12:38 AM

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hahahahaha if I caught anyone no matter the rank.....I would make sooooo much fun of them.

Response by Cpl Robert Kafader made Mar 3 at 2015 12:44 AM

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First officer wives now nco's fuck that her hand was not raised or shot rounds down range in anger the actual nco should be disciplined for not keeping their spouse in check

Response by 1SG Dave Arpin made Mar 3 at 2015 2:36 AM

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Wow I really don't have words for this one. What is happening to our military. I know when I was on AD spouses of Major's and above would have fits for not being saluted but their spouse usually corrected them. But I've been retired since '04.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 2:45 AM

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Did she go to through recruit training or boot camp? Is she prior active duty, and is now out while he's still in? If the answer is no to both of those questions, then nobody cares who she's married to and what his rank is, no matter what her part may have been for him staying on course.

Simple common courtesy and respect should be shown to all people, regardless of whether they have served/are serving or not. Standing at parade rest is taking it too far.

Response by CW2 Eric Scott made Mar 3 at 2015 4:31 AM

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This is stupid. I don't think anyone would stand at anything for any spouse. This is borderline trolling.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Mar 3 at 2015 8:51 AM

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PLEEEEESE tell me those are just dark henna-type tatoos. No one could possibly be that stupid - could they?

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 9:17 AM

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Seriously? No! Last year at FT Bragg, shortly before I deployed, I witnessed a woman berating some Airborne Soldiers. Not sure what it was, didn't really care. I thought they had said something stupid, until she said her husband was their "BDE CSM," and they had to be at PARADE REST while she was yelling at them. I told them to beat it, then I directed my attention to her. I thoroughly informed her that she had no authority over any of us. She threatened to have my rank taken away, so I gave her my name, unit, CSM's name and where my commander could be found. I did tell her I have an extremely good memory, and said if I ever saw her trying to flex her husband's rank on another Soldier, I'd go straight to him. I never heard a peep about the situation after that.

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made Mar 3 at 2015 12:16 PM

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BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 12:19 PM

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Yes. A good military spouse...male or female would understand and expect it as what is normal.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 12:22 PM

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Disregard. I misread the question. Negative on the spouse...unless of course the spouse also outranked the jr enlisted.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 1:00 PM

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As my company commander used to say. "Not no but f--- no!"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 1:50 PM

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I am at a loss for words, if a spouse wants to wear the rank of their husband/wife then join the military and earn the rank. My head actually hurts thinking about Spouses actually thinking that they are entitled to this, I just wonder what the actual service member says to their spouse when they try this.

Response by SPC Grace Belen made Mar 3 at 2015 3:37 PM

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I'm surprised some people actually responded "Yes" to this poll. Why?!

Response by Cpl Matt Robinson made Mar 3 at 2015 9:34 PM

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The same ones lurking in the e-club and out in town while their husbands away?

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Mar 3 at 2015 10:00 PM

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With trying to stay on the subject, I will say that I have met my share of spouses who thought they were better than lower enlisted and some of them treated lower enlisted like they were a second class citizen. I have no idea if they were just having a bad day, or they treated everyone like crap, or that felt superior and a sense of entitlement around lower enlisted.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 4:15 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v= [login to see] 08396&fref=nf

So, I came across this nugget this morning. Unfortunately, I actually know who this guy is. I come across this guy nearly everytime I go home to Pensacola, Fl on leave.

It starts off with him asking the Marines who are there for their job specialty training and a couple of permanent party Soldiers in their civilian attire. He asks them if they know what CID is? Then he goes on about how he wants to "see some Sergeants" and their "Chain of Command." He syas they are berrating a "100% disabled" veteran. Then, when an actual Vet (an older gentleman) calls him out by pointing out that this guy's ID says "dependent," he then goes into saying he never said he was in the service (at least at that very specific moment, I guess). Finally, it ends with him saying he's going to talk to his Chain and family about how they were "mistreating a civilian." Immediately after, a CPO comes out mad as hell, big as an ox, too.

He might be married to someone in the service, but it doesn't give him any right to wear the uniform.

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Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 4:42 AM

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I am blown away that anybody would expect or approve that a Soldier stand at PARADE REST for any non-military personnel. The regulations govern military service members, not their dependents!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 4:47 AM

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Response by PO1 Joan (Tipka) (Plummer) Fisher made Mar 4 at 2015 4:50 AM

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I once had the opportunity to attend a meeting for the Navy wives club as a speaker. The CCM was also a guest speaker. He preceeded to ask the members to be seated according to seniority. After about 10 minutes of women arguing. He reminded them that there rank was ONLY dependant and nothing else. So many of them tried "pulling rank" at medical all the time. CCM felt this was the best way to nip this in the bud.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 12:10 PM

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Last time I checked even a E1 and Basic Trainees outranked a civilian. They might want to parade rest for us. As for the picture, the stupidest part of that is, that tattoos are permanent and rank changes quite easily. I'll skim over the part where she didn't earn her husbands rank in order to ask what she'll do when her husband changes rank? Surgery and a new tattoo?

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Mar 4 at 2015 5:06 PM

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Why should a service member stand at attention or parade rest for someone who has no military rank or position of authority? That being said, I do think basic courtesy and manners should be observed.

Reminds me of a situation I observed once. We were at a HQ unit with several general officers and colonels. The officer's spouses club was having a meeting at which the commander was to speak. The commander at the time happened to be a 3-star. The ladies were all fussing and arguing over who should sit where based on whose husband had what rank. The whole thing was pure confusion and was causing the event to run way past the start time. The commander apparently ran out of patience and walked in the room and stated, "Ladies, you have no rank. Sit down in the chair closest to you and lets get started." I found it interesting the commander's own wife was in the crowd at the time.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Mar 4 at 2015 7:04 PM

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You are kidding, right????

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 9:22 PM

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Do we seriously have to ask? Spouses are spouses...civilian dependents. They have ZERO authority, from E1-O10...the spouse means absolutely nothing to me other than an annoying family member. Stay out of my way, steer clear, be polite and I'll be polite in kind. That's the best a spouse will ever get.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Mar 4 at 2015 10:26 PM

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No, they're not the one in the service.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 10:40 PM

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Why would they?

Response by PO2 Miles Newman made Mar 5 at 2015 12:08 AM

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No!

Response by SGT Francis Wright made Mar 5 at 2015 12:14 AM

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My question is what happens when he gets promoted. Or what she going to do when he gets out?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 7:57 PM

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This is humorous satire right? Obviously rank does not transcend marital ties.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Mar 11 at 2015 8:08 PM

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I don't know about the other services, but I've never had a Junior Enlisted person at attention or parade rest or anything else, except possibly in formation or at Captain's Mast. That is true whether I was an E5 or an O4.

So, their spouses are CERTAINLY not entitled to such military courtesy!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 8:26 PM

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The vote says it very well no need to add anything.

Response by PO2 Pualani Ralph made Mar 11 at 2015 8:38 PM

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The tattoo thing is stupid, first off what if he gets promoted, then you just wasted like $80.

As for the standing at parade rest. I don't think that is necessary. Sailors can't talk while in parade rest, so I am not sure how much respect that would be.. the wife/husband asking questions and you blankly staring at her/him :o). However in all honesty, should they show respect absolutely. NCO's should do the same to junior enlisted's spouses as well. I mean we are taught military bearing and respect and you should do that with everyone regardless of rank, military or non-military. You are supposed to have character and that means respecting all.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 8:39 PM

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Sure if NCOs wife is also an NCO, otherwise no, hell no

Response by SGT Joseph Jones made Mar 11 at 2015 8:58 PM

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To everyone calling the female stupid for getting rank tattooed the female pictured was a marine then married a marine and got her own rank tattooed to memorialize the time she served. That's her final rank. But aren't we supposed to be better than call someone stupid because of the way something looks? We were taught better military bearing is better than that. We all have pictures in uniform and our post under our name. So it makes Fort Bliss look bad and Meade and anyone calling names. It's officers and enlisted NCOs who know the battle of earning respect in the greatest ARMY in the world. How hard it is to stand out in your MOS. With so many others. Officers who have never been enlisted don't get that because they are few and far between. There's what 4 LTs in a Unit? 1 Captain! 45-65 Specialists? It's hard to stand out as an up and coming Enlisted leader when there's so many others. So why do we want to bring others down? We all were taught better if not home then by our Branches.

A tattoo signifies one time in someone's life it's a time capsule. Maybe she met him as an E-4 maybe he changed her life or deployed as an E-4 and she wanted that forever on her to show the world she loved him. Tattoos have deep meaning to those of us wearing them. In the late 90s it was hard being tattooed in the Army regulations were different and we had to fight to be able to have the right to tattoo our arms and eventually necks. I don't have any on my neck except really light pink lips where my wife kissed me after surgery and left her lipstick stain I woke up 15 hours later it was there she wasn't. I had it tattooed on our anniversary. Don't be so judgmental. It's a tattoo to honor her husband and she isn't wearing rank on a uniform she is wearing a permanent reminder of when her husband went to fight for her and his childrens future! That's all lets wake up and worry about real issues like how long are you supposed to cook 20 pizza rolls in the microwave the box only has instructions for 10max.

HOOAH

Response by PO2 David Hagwood made Mar 11 at 2015 9:51 PM

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Why can't we chose two answers. I believe most of us are thinking exactly what the last 2 answers are saying. I hope I never meet one of these people. LOL I just don't want to see it, very pathetic!

Response by SPC Thomas Hobbs made Mar 11 at 2015 11:15 PM

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Should a veteran stand at attention for a brand new butterbar?

Response by TSgt Jackie Jones made Mar 11 at 2015 11:37 PM

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Anyone can tattoo anything they want on their bodies. And they also have the right to share those tattoos online. Why are "we" Sharing and judging someone else's choices? I am in no way affected by her choice... Are you?

Response by SPC Todd Hanson made Mar 12 at 2015 7:51 PM

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As a brand new Prviate I had a spouse walk in to my office the customer service section at the DMPO and demand I fix her pay. She didn't have a POA so I had to turn her away.

Response by SGT Corey Franks made Mar 13 at 2015 9:20 AM

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This gave me a good laugh....

Response by PO1 Derrick Miller made Mar 13 at 2015 5:53 PM

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I don't even think we should have (had) to salute an officers wife. I think you should show all people respect, but they aren't in the military, as much as some of them seem to think they are.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Mar 14 at 2015 12:19 PM

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There's no requirement to show military courtesy to civilians (spouses, parents, kids, and DOD civilians). As military members we should always show courtesy and respect to other people regardless of age, sex, race, religion, dependent status as a matter of professional bearing. We are walking billboards for our Service.

Three stories:

Before 9/11 Security Forces often relied on DOD auto registration stickers to permit a vehicle to enter a military installation. The services also issued colored stickers with the name of the member's home installation. The blue sticker (officer) normally warranted a salute from the military gate guard as the car passed. As more women came into the Service, my wife was saluted many times coming on base. She just smiled and nodded.

First time my wife said she felt old was when a Lieutenant called her "ma'am." We were in our late 30s.

There was a time when every officer's wife pretty much knew the rank of every other wife's husband and deference was paid to the more senior officer's wives. When the officer's wives club had its monthly meeting, "Mrs General" was seated in the O'Club so that all the other wives could come by, greet her respectfully, and maybe shake her white-gloved hand. It was a bit like having royalty in the room I'm told. That time is probably long gone and for the better.

Response by SrA John Sturm made Mar 15 at 2015 5:31 PM

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How is this even a question?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2015 9:33 PM

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Response by SFC Candice Embich made Mar 15 at 2015 9:44 PM

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I got out as an E-7, and I am married to a SGM. Not only would I think it is ridiculous for a soldier to stand at parade rest for me, I think it would be totally stepping out of line. To much the spouses wear their husbands rank, that is just fueling the fire.

Response by Sgt Vincent Blain made Mar 16 at 2015 12:55 AM

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I had a Major's wife try that on me. I kindly told her to see the door, that her husband was an officer and she was but a civilian.

Response by SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA made Mar 16 at 2015 1:28 AM

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This is another example of why semantics and basic grammar skills are vital. Yet sorely lacking.

Response by SPC Donald Tribble made Mar 29 at 2015 5:02 PM

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NO. Not just no, but HELL no!!! Can't improve on that.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 29 at 2015 5:30 PM

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Not this one, but I've seen a few I would stand at attention for!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2015 5:36 PM

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Who in their right mind would stand at parade rest for a spouse

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2015 8:00 PM

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Hell no!! My wife doesn't even let the Soldiers in my BN call her "ma'am". She insists on Tammy, or if they insist, Mrs. Bennett

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 4 at 2015 11:46 PM

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I have an idea, if the military spouse has more education than me whether or not their military spouse outranks me, I will stand in parade rest for that spouse. My only requirement is that when we communicate face to face, we go eye to eye so I can see what sort of stuff their made of.

Response by SPC Angel Guma made Apr 4 at 2015 11:53 PM

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Is it in regulation?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2015 11:54 PM

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They haven't served, so hell no!

Response by SPC Angel Guma made Apr 4 at 2015 11:57 PM

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Response by CW4 Larry Curtis made Apr 7 at 2015 11:38 AM

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Is this a serious question? I mean, REALLY? If the Army wanted you to have a wife, you would have been issued one. ;)

Simply put, it depends on what rank the wife holds. One of the coolest stories I ever heard on this subject involved a graduating class of newly-appointed Warrant Officers at their graduation ceremony. Just before their names were called to proceed up to the stage to receive their recognition, the keynote speaker, a Colonel, instructed all of the wives present at the ceremony to stand and be recognized...he congratulated them for supporting their husbands, highlighting what an important role they play in doing so, and then he instructed them to come to the edge of the platform and line-up alphabetically by rank. Utter mayhem ensued and the Colonel allowed them to mill around in utter confusion for several moments, some were visibly agitated and had begun arguing over their husband's dates of rank, etc. The Colonel finally stopped the mayhem and said, "You can't do it, can you? It's a very simple thing to do for someone who actually wears the rank, but since you do not wear the rank, you cannot do it. Let this be a lesson to you that you will always remember...YOU do NOT wear the rank, your husbands do. This should have been a very simple exercise for all of you because as of today all of your husbands hold the same rank."

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2015 1:06 PM

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To each his own. Some of you talking mess about this tattoo probably have something just as cheesy on you. Army guys with their airborne wings, marines with them USMC letters, navy with your anchors, and Air Force with your butterfly tattoos on the small of your back. Lol. This is something they are proud of. Now that I've defended you, I would never put this on me. None of it. My honorable service o my nation will be displayed with a flag either folded and given to me at retirement or draped over my casket. I bleed like you. I served like you. And I will not mock your patriotism just because I think it looks stupid. Make sure you leave room for promotion and may you never get demoted.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2015 7:47 PM

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You know what. I'm sure you have better questions to ask that would spark a good feed filled with helpful responses.

Response by MSG Billy Goldston made Apr 7 at 2015 10:43 PM

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Only if that NCOS wife is an NCO too!!

Response by MSG Tim Gray made Apr 8 at 2015 1:22 AM

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If she's delivering fresh baked cookies for moi! Otherwise she can assume the front leaning rest and commence to face beating

Response by SSG Harper Peterson made Apr 8 at 2015 1:24 AM

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The Military Spouse doesn't hold the rank. HE'LL NO!

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Apr 8 at 2015 2:39 AM

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This is a joke.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 9:14 AM

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While the spouse may have some pull with the leader, the spouse is not in the military, they do not carry the rank, experience, or authority of their military member.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 4:44 PM

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I love how the question in the Facebook post is "Ladies, what do you think of having a tattoo of YOU and your husband's rank?" Uh, no I'm sorry, you're not in the military it's not your rank as well. I've been in 14 years married for 11 of them, there was never a time when my wife thought my rank was hers.

Response by CW4 Larry Curtis made Apr 8 at 2015 6:54 PM

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I think tatoos of rank is silly because hopefully it will be changing at regular intervals. I'm not into tats at all for me personally because I have yet to have seen anything which I would want to have permanently inked onto my body, and I'm not really willing to use my body as a billboard to anyone else's art when it gets right down to it. Heck, I don't even like to have dealer stickers or emblems on the back of my car because I'm not into providing free advertisement. If I think something or someone's business is worthwhile I will just tell you about it if I think you might be interested. ;)

Response by SGT Frank Leonardo made Apr 8 at 2015 7:28 PM

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If they are a city nope if they hold that rank and are serving yes

Response by PO1 John Miller made Apr 10 at 2015 4:35 AM

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Good thing this is in the humor section...

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made May 6 at 2015 3:16 PM

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Wow a dependapottamus wearing rank... This has to be a joke.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 3:25 PM

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If they are a civilian and do not outrank the member and are not entitled to stand at parade rest for the wife.........

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Sep 8 at 2015 12:52 AM

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Is this really a question??? If I were active duty and some crazy dependant expected me to treat them special... I would be having to report to the post commander !!! This kind of issue never ever came up back in the day!!! damn how things have changed!!! The only thing I ever remember being done in the Army because of a SM's wife was the blue signs all over Ft Benning were changed to brown because the post commanders wife thought the color went better with all the dead plant life on post.... at least thats what we were told and it was the butt of many jokes!!

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Nov 24 at 2015 5:17 PM

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ABSOLUTLEY NOT BECAUSE OF THIER HUSBANDS OR WIFES RANK. Now out of respect for someone older than you to show courtesy, I was always taught to stand for a lady. I was also taught to stand up for people who were older than me out of pure respect. I would never nor would my wife expect that to happen for her...as a matter of fact she would be embarrassed. She always told me that she never wore my rank and that the rank that I had was earned by me not her. However, she also told me when we got married the no matter what rank I achieved, she would always outrank me!! LOL... BOTTOM LINE...if this is happening and it is expected then it needs to be knocked off. The spouse does not wear the rank...PERIOD!

I really don't agree with tats anyway. My opinion. I don't have anything against those that have them, just not for me so I don't particularly care for these.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2015 9:38 PM

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wow i am blown away

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 4:08 PM

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Pretty funny.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Feb 19 at 2016 1:24 AM

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Blood rank?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2016 1:26 AM

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Really??!! You are a SSG! You should know the answer to this is NO!

Response by TSgt Melissa Post made Feb 19 at 2016 2:27 AM

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I'm sorry I work for your husband, not you. I report to your husband, not you. Your husband went through the training, not you (unless she also is military but that is a different topic). Having said that, by all means be respectful. She is still a person.

The sad part is I have seen the children treat their peers like crud based on the rank of their parents. Where are they learning that this is ok?

and in regards to the tattoo....HEEELLLLLL NOOOOOO. just oh my gosh no. no.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2016 3:27 PM

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Yeah... good luck making me do that.

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Feb 26 at 2016 1:05 PM

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I suppose this is favored, above horizontal PT with the NCO's wife ;)

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Feb 26 at 2016 1:22 PM

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I'm sorry, but what?

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Feb 26 at 2016 1:51 PM

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That is pretty tame tat in my opinion. One of our beautiful granddaughters has an Insane Clowns, 'Duggalo' tat on her neck and is now stuck with it for the rest of her life. We wish all she had was a Sgts rank insignia instead.

Response by SPC Trevor Berryhill made Feb 26 at 2016 2:05 PM

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Who asked this? Are you retarded? Stop stealing my oxygen.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 2:07 PM

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Spouses don't rate. Now, you still want to watch your body posture to be respectful, but no, it's not a requirement and it should never be expected.

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Feb 26 at 2016 2:20 PM

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Not a lady but my opinion on getting your husband's rank tattooed on you is that it's a bad idea unless he's out of the military. While you can add a chevron or two or convert 1LT to CPT, there are limits. And what if he gets demoted?

Response by SP5 Hank Vandenburgh PhD made Feb 26 at 2016 2:46 PM

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What is this "parade rest" crap, even for actual NCOs? I was an Sp5. Should people have come to parade rest for me? ~ 1960s Soldier

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 3:00 PM

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Quickest and best safety brief I heard as an LT: "Don't do dumb shit. If you think it's dumb shit, it probably is."

Response by SGT Jason Van Hoose made Feb 26 at 2016 3:00 PM

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It was even funnier when I pulled them over for a traffic violation and they do the same thing

Response by CPL Scott Young made Feb 26 at 2016 3:07 PM

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This has to be a joke. If not, get y'alls head examined. Wife's standing at parade rest, haha. I would love to see somebody tell my wife she has to do that. She would make you want to crawl in a hole and die.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 3:45 PM

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I will show the spouse proper respect but if you think I will stand at parade rest to chat with the CSM's wife your out of your mind.

Response by SPC Matt Davidson made Feb 26 at 2016 4:12 PM

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fuck no. they aren't actually in the service they have no authority or the troops.

Response by SGT Jacob Yuhas made Feb 26 at 2016 4:24 PM

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Unless they are prior service or an instructor for a course that I am a student of, no. I give the proper position of attention/parade rest to ranks above me only. Not spouses of those ranks.

Response by SFC Craig Hahn made Feb 26 at 2016 4:46 PM

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Yup days like this I am glad that I have made the choice to retire. I just don't know what to say about some of the dumb and just plain stupid questions that gets asked.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 4:49 PM

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Response by SPC Jonathan Schmidt made Feb 26 at 2016 5:17 PM

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Wow. The fact that this is actually posted as a question surprises me. An emphatic NO, NEVER. The wife is nowhere in the chain and does not deserve the respect of being in it. That said, they are still people, and deserve the basic respect that all people are entitled to. One of the greatest and most important lessons I learned is that even if you don't respect the person wearing the rank, respect the rank and the station because it was earned. Spouses get no such consideration.

A veteran having a tattoo of their rank is fine, and even makes sense.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 5:34 PM

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This is positively absurd. My wife is a veteran and would like to be treated just like anyone else. She does the same in kind. As a nurse, if someone stood at parade rest for her she'd probably want to examine them for head trauma. It would freak her out.....and then I would have to hear about it. So for the sake of all parties involved, please don't do this.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Feb 26 at 2016 5:58 PM

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Only if she is there in an official capacity as the spouse. CSMs sometimes have spouse in tow during official travel as do flag officers and some COLs.

Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Feb 26 at 2016 6:00 PM

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Standing in any particular military position in front of those who Never Took An Oath. Yeah not happening. And in America where Marriage has become "until inconvenienced do us part" her wedding vows mean little to me. I mean I'm not going out of my way to be disrespectful, I'm just not going out of my way, period. Doing "nothing in particular" is exactly that, a Nothing, a Zero Value. Is it NOT a "negative number value".

Further I challenge the general character quality of NCOs who would expect this, especially the ones who would put someone on their face for not doing so.

In fact even further, I might voluntarily do something a bit more positive and out of my way for the wife of an E7+, presumably someone who might have actually stood by her man for the duration. But I'm far less concerned about those who only latched onto Johnny for his uniform and guaranteed paycheck, who are all to often filing divorces when Johnny comes home, not to mention those who haven't even been faithful.

Not all wives are "dependapotamuses" but there are those who fit that notion.

If she wants me to pop to Parade Rest, she can join and earn her own damn rank. I did. This is what happens when people push Gender Equality too far, the old-school Chivalry gets lost. So now people are all either RANK + SURNAME, or they are Mister or Misses or Miss, unless they have a Doctorate level degree. Soldiers are Soldiers and Marines are Marines, and gender is entirely irrelevant (except for the civilian versions of Misses or Miss----and by the way, in Vegas there are no Misses).

Imagine for a second the reversal. You are a male grunt popping to Parade Rest for a DUDE whose wife is an NCO? Not likely.

No disrespect, just keepin' it Fo Reels =)

Response by COL Jeff Williams made Feb 26 at 2016 10:07 PM

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Of course not. But common courtesy always prevails

Response by SCPO Charles Thomas "Tom" Canterbury made Feb 26 at 2016 10:07 PM

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I saw this woman (or one like her) at the Midway Park, NC Food Lion. I remember seeing the sergeant rank tattoos. I figured she had done her time and cannot see a military wife getting a rank tattoo of her hubby's rank.

Response by SFC Carlos Gamino made Feb 27 at 2016 12:23 AM

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How silly!!!

Response by SrA Ryan Nave made Feb 27 at 2016 1:48 AM

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This is where the term dependa comes from.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 2:07 AM

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Have you serve in the military? Have you earn that title and rank by YOUR OWN SERVICE IN THE MILITARY? No? Then just get on with your life

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 5:23 AM

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I'm not standing at parade rest for ANYONE who has not earned the respect of being a Noncommissioned Officer of the United States Military. Unless, I'm just comfortable in that position and it just so happens its not a NCO.
But that inner voice in my mind that I hear when I find myself speaking to an NCO not at parade rest *before I fix myself* will NEVER activate.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 5:56 AM

2016-02-27T05:56:29-05:00

The real question is: should you divorce your spouse for dumbass rank tattoos?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 6:15 AM

2016-02-27T06:15:37-05:00

NO! A spouse is a spouse and that is that. Its also pretty dumb that when a spouse gets a job and the other spouse workers are like what is your husbands rank and they say something low the co-workers treat them like they are lower rank then them but they have the same job position, its kind of crazy. Does it really matter your spouse is a Commander vs the other Spouse is PVT but they both work for a cafeteria. Its shameful to think one spouse would think they are more superior to the other spouse just because of the rank of their spouse and that is an on going trend that is an embarrassment of our society today.

Response by PO3 David Fries made Feb 27 at 2016 6:17 AM

2016-02-27T06:17:49-05:00

Point 1: standing at parade rest for an NCO/PO's wife. Just no. Your wife is not my superior. She may feel superior, but I promise you, she is not.

Point 2, tattooing your husbands rank in a visible location. All the more power to you if that's what you want to do. You are going to look/feel like a fool every time he gets promoted/demoted.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 7:18 AM

2016-02-27T07:18:33-05:00

Cuts out OCS doesn't it?

Response by SGT Alicia Brenneis made Feb 27 at 2016 9:31 AM

2016-02-27T09:31:14-05:00

I just.... can't. Dear lord help these people.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 11:34 AM

2016-02-27T11:34:01-05:00

Who the Hell said yes?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 4:50 PM

2016-02-27T16:50:35-05:00

No, just NO.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 6:28 PM

2016-02-27T18:28:58-05:00

It will change in 3 years so why get the tat

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 7:25 PM

2016-02-27T19:25:18-05:00

HHhHhhahhHahahaha
Helllll No

Response by SSG Samuel Fortune made Feb 27 at 2016 7:47 PM

2016-02-27T19:47:44-05:00

I'm retired now. And u work as a bounce ran in to this last night some drunk lady wearing her drunk husbands rank yelling at everyone.

Response by SGT Philip Keys made Feb 27 at 2016 7:57 PM

2016-02-27T19:57:52-05:00

There are tons of wives that try and wear their husbands rank. Usually it's an officers wife but what can you do. Oh I know tell them they are not acting appropriately and they need to quit. Do you know who my husband is? Yeah that gets old really quick.

Response by SGT David Starr made Feb 27 at 2016 9:32 PM

2016-02-27T21:32:37-05:00

I don't believe so. Being respectful is of course Appropriate.

Response by PO3 Zeke Coleman made Feb 27 at 2016 9:40 PM

2016-02-27T21:40:24-05:00

A wife is a wife has no military experience what so ever unless prior service. I think in the indoc process they should explain this to family. Yes the offer support of a soldier but do not deserve any special treatment. Stop riding your spouse's coattails and make a career for yourself and house wife does not count

Response by LCpl Travis Holt made Feb 27 at 2016 10:20 PM

2016-02-27T22:20:00-05:00

I don't see standing at parade rest for anyone's wife unless they are active duty or active reserve and out rank you. That said, showing them basic respect isn't an issue regardless of their husbands rank.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 10:47 PM

2016-02-27T22:47:29-05:00

It's one thing to be respectful, but I'm not standing at parade rest

Response by PO2 John Deal made Feb 27 at 2016 10:57 PM

2016-02-27T22:57:47-05:00

Lmao. I saw Lt. General Smiths' wife try to pull that bullshit at III MEF in Okinawa.... Over a gate guard asking for her I.D. (The CG had given an order that "Every swingin dick and split tail coming aboard HIS bases in Okinawa would have their I.D.'s checked, from the Commander in Chief, Down..."
(Paraphrased by Sgt. Major Billings)
and she lost it when she was asked to provide her ID....
The SNCO of the watch called the OOD, over the radio, and the Lt. Gen. Heard it over the comm.
He made the trip to gate and summarily chewed his wife's ass, after he called the watch station and told them to hold her there....
Made her apologize the the Corporal on the gate and the SNCO of the watch and OOD.
I doubt she EVER, EVER pulled that bullshit again. Ever.
I was his Driver and Corpsman at the time... It was rare to see him get upset, but he was SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 11:06 PM

2016-02-27T23:06:04-05:00

Picturing this in my head, it would be kinda funny to see Soldiers getting smoked by somebody's civvie spouse, only for someone with REAL authority to come walking up and saying, "Hey, you can't do that!" And then, with a wild eyed look, she goes, "Oh. Sorry about that."

Totally funny in my head. Lol.

Response by SFC Zohn Tennyson made Feb 27 at 2016 11:09 PM

2016-02-27T23:09:28-05:00

Quite possibly one of the dumbest things Ive ever heard.

Response by SSG John Piper made Feb 27 at 2016 11:18 PM

2016-02-27T23:18:18-05:00

I'm not sure about parade rest, but my little guy always stupid at attention for ncos wives . . .

Response by SSgt Rilene Ann made Feb 27 at 2016 11:19 PM

2016-02-27T23:19:00-05:00

I have green foot tattoo got on 1st anniversary as back then now exhusband jumped from Jolly Greens.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 11:33 PM

2016-02-27T23:33:06-05:00

Hell no

Response by SFC Jay Fuller made Feb 27 at 2016 11:34 PM

2016-02-27T23:34:24-05:00

Hell No

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 12:12 AM

2016-02-28T00:12:52-05:00

Who tatoos there rank on them? Lol

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 12:18 AM

2016-02-28T00:18:37-05:00

Last time I looked my wife doesn't wear my 1SG Rank just like I don't have have her Nurse Practitioner license... Just saying

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 12:50 AM

2016-02-28T00:50:06-05:00

If the NCO/PO (which we don't stand parade rest for POs) spouse is also an NCO then of course give military courtesy where it's due...tying into this is kind of an unwritten rule that when addressing a superiors spouse you most certainly should say sir or ma'am...but parade rest is going too far

Response by Cpl Eric Young made Feb 28 at 2016 12:54 AM

2016-02-28T00:54:30-05:00

I would NEVER have ever stood at parade rest for the wife of a higher ranking individual...... Just would not happen.

And if one such dependa decided to show me the disrespect of trying to order me, they would get the disrespectful answer of "go fuck yourself"

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 8:24 AM

2016-02-28T08:24:58-05:00

Do what you want. It's all good. But when you get punched in the nose trying to play game let me know so I can take a picture

Response by SSG Jesse Cheadle made Feb 28 at 2016 9:54 AM

2016-02-28T09:54:06-05:00

If you are junior enlisted and you are being addressed by a military member that is a NCO/PO then show proper military customs and courtesy. If my wife is a civillian and is expected to show the same courtesy, she will punch you in the face. You do not pull rank on civillian spouses. True story. Especially the FRG. You are NOT your spouses rank!

Response by SPC Larry Ladd made Feb 28 at 2016 10:10 AM

2016-02-28T10:10:27-05:00

If you earned it wear it and wear it with pride. As far as a military spouse that has never served to do this no I do not think it is right. As for what I've read before commenting on this. Thank you for your service ma'am. I also want to give thanks to your husband and hope and pray he stays safe.

Response by SSG Lucas Velez made Feb 28 at 2016 11:08 AM

2016-02-28T11:08:25-05:00

What happens to the tat when he gets demoted?

Response by CPT Mike Schultz made Feb 28 at 2016 11:55 AM

2016-02-28T11:55:07-05:00

wives certainly take on their share of unstated responsibilities, to the tune of many hours per week. That aside, this custom would be ridiculous.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 12:40 PM

2016-02-28T12:40:46-05:00

Seriously!?! This is just ridiculous. I can't believe this is even a thing to talk about.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 1:04 PM

2016-02-28T13:04:37-05:00

They need to realize they only wear the ring not the rank.

Response by SGT Matt Schiess made Feb 28 at 2016 1:41 PM

2016-02-28T13:41:05-05:00

I think I echo about 90% of the respondents here. I've never seen this behavior happen before, but if I came across it, I would try to get their spouse's name, rank, unit and the name of their CO. I would take it up with them after giving the spouse in question a thorough education on rules and regs of extending customs and courtesies.

Response by Sgt Stephen Galvan made Feb 28 at 2016 2:19 PM

2016-02-28T14:19:27-05:00

As an MP standing a gate I would never even salute an officers wife, so why would I even stand a parade rest for an enlisted' wife.

Response by SSG Jeff Carlisle-Tierno made Feb 28 at 2016 2:49 PM

2016-02-28T14:49:26-05:00

If that had ever been in force, I'd have gotten out as a Private and taken my Article 15s with a smile. I fought in Iraq. Any soldier serving, whether they've deployed yet or not, signed the paper knowing full well it could be them. The dependa did no such thing. If they want rank and the respect that goes with it, I'll more than gladly point them to the nearest recruiting center.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 2:53 PM

2016-02-28T14:53:02-05:00

When a spouse does pt every morning, goes to the field for weeks, and deploys I still wouldn't stand at parade rest. You didn't go through the hardships and the learning that your spouse did in order to be trusted with that position. You just support them which that itself is already enough work

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 3:02 PM

2016-02-28T15:02:48-05:00

All I can think of is the 1% in this poll that said yes.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Feb 28 at 2016 3:08 PM

2016-02-28T15:08:26-05:00

The question would really depend on whether the NCOs wife ACTUALLY outranked the Junior Enlisted person - wouldn't it?

Response by CDR Richard Tucker made Feb 28 at 2016 4:34 PM

2016-02-28T16:34:33-05:00

This can also be turned around. My wife attended a supposedly social event at the admirals house one night and was told she needed to do something, I don't recall what it was. My wife let the admirals wife know that she was not in the Navy and had never signed a contract, so no she would be happy to volunteer when she was not working, but not to try to order her to do anything. Needless to say I got an invite to see the admiral. I told him the same thing, He can order me, but the wife is her own boss. The admiral actually smiled and told me he wish he had been a fly on the wall when my wife had the conversation. She was never invited to a social gathering again and loved it, LOL

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 4:39 PM

2016-02-28T16:39:35-05:00

You don't get respect for free, you earn it. Not your stripes not your right.

Response by SGT Eric Deyo made Feb 28 at 2016 5:12 PM

2016-02-28T17:12:59-05:00

It never fails to amaze me that there are spouses of service members that think that the rank/position of their serving spouse somehow entitles them to equivalent rendering of military courtesy and honors. Now, I do understand that in certain special circumstances (General officers/unit commanders) that service members should be respectful of the spouse, but not to the point of standing at parade rest. Has common sense left the military?

Response by SrA Kathy Donham made Feb 28 at 2016 5:43 PM

2016-02-28T17:43:31-05:00

My husband retired as a MGySgt after 30 yrs in the Marinr Corps. We have a decal that says E-9. They do not know who's the Marine or not but now that they are checking ID's as you go on base they know. The Spouse DID NOT earn that but I make sure when I go thru that gate and they do respect the rank I make sure they know I appreciate it. Respect is a 2 way street.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Feb 28 at 2016 5:48 PM

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Response by SGT Christopher Premore made Feb 28 at 2016 7:03 PM

2016-02-28T19:03:52-05:00

Never that thought needs to get out of spouses heads unless the spouse is a NCO as well.

Response by SGT Forrest Perez made Feb 28 at 2016 8:02 PM

2016-02-28T20:02:37-05:00

I've had wives of seniors both officers and enlisted trying to tell me what to do with my platoon prior to rolling out on deployment. Not trying to offend no one but unless I need FRG input let me deal with soldiers

Response by Cpl Heather Hahn made Feb 28 at 2016 8:46 PM

2016-02-28T20:46:47-05:00

I am a proud Marine and I'll be damned if some civilian on a power trip thinks for a second they will get myself to bestow a manner of respect to them that they have not earned. They did not volunteer thier lives, thier bodies, thier freedoms like we have, they do not rate in that respect.

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Feb 28 at 2016 9:02 PM

2016-02-28T21:02:12-05:00

My wife is my wife, she knew nothing about what I did at work other than the few times she attended some ceremony or other. She deserved no more respect than any other service members wife. My rank was basically left at the company/unit unless the phone rang at home for business purposes....

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 9:03 PM

2016-02-28T21:03:03-05:00

lol did anyone else think they were reading Duffle blog when they read this lol?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 9:08 PM

2016-02-28T21:08:19-05:00

I would laugh in that individual's face. I also don't think they should park in the parking space of their spouse, either... Is that crossing a line? >_>

Response by Sgt Nathaniel James made Feb 28 at 2016 10:33 PM

2016-02-28T22:33:33-05:00

The corps should issue cyanide pills to all married marines so they can nip this lil problem in the ass before it starts....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 10:37 PM

2016-02-28T22:37:33-05:00

If it's my wife the answer is yes. But only because she's also an NCO.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 28 at 2016 11:21 PM

2016-02-28T23:21:35-05:00

No....

Response by SGT Michael Newman made Feb 28 at 2016 11:22 PM

2016-02-28T23:22:05-05:00

Lmao.. you can't be serious. !! No fucking way..

Response by LTJG Edward Bangor Jr made Feb 29 at 2016 12:02 AM

2016-02-29T00:02:33-05:00

This reminds me of something that happened to some of the candidates when I was at Navy OCS. One of the DIs had them call her kids "sir" and "ma'am" and snap to attention for them. I don't get how that doesn't just count as a power trip.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 12:49 AM

2016-02-29T00:49:16-05:00

I'm not standing at parade rest for a spouse unless they're in too. Unlike the woman in the photo, they didn't earn diddly but a good morning for marrying someone who served.

And that's coming from someone who's in and married someone who's in as well. That's like saying that once my husband picks up Corporal, I should be automatically promoted too for no reason.

Response by SPC Doug Desbrough made Feb 29 at 2016 6:04 AM

2016-02-29T06:04:44-05:00

This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. How many NCOs did you know didn't deserve parade rest and now some dumb ass thought this up? Unbelievable

Response by MSgt Eric Roseberry made Feb 29 at 2016 7:37 AM

2016-02-29T07:37:46-05:00

No, but don't kid yourself, spouces do have a social strata based on rank. This is true outside the military as well. Failure to recognize this can be carreer limiting.

Response by SSG(P) Raymond Ogg made Feb 29 at 2016 8:00 AM

2016-02-29T08:00:25-05:00

I have never heard of this being stated anywhere except on Internet anecdotes and mostly made-up stories about parking at the commissary.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 8:55 AM

2016-02-29T08:55:49-05:00

While a military spouse is a tough job, I will never stand at parade rest bc their spouse is an NCO. Now if that spouse was also military and had the rank of an NCO higher than me hell yeah I will stand at Parade Rest for you.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 8:58 AM

2016-02-29T08:58:49-05:00

That's like the FRG mafia. The CO wife was always on a power trip.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 9:16 AM

2016-02-29T09:16:59-05:00

So, I knew my answer was fuck no, but I asked my wife and her answer was: why in the he'll would anyone go to parade rest for me?
Treat them with common courtesy like we treat all Americans, but I'll go to parade rest for people higher ranked than me, only.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 9:50 AM

2016-02-29T09:50:33-05:00

An E1 outranks any spouse any day of the week.

Response by CSM Arthur La Rue made Feb 29 at 2016 10:57 AM

2016-02-29T10:57:39-05:00

This is too stupid!

Response by SGT Tj Maddox made Feb 29 at 2016 11:29 AM

2016-02-29T11:29:00-05:00

Fucking kidding me right? If a senior enlisted told me to do that for his spouse I would be in front of command receiving displinary action for kicking his ass.

Response by SPC James Dollins made Feb 29 at 2016 11:48 AM

2016-02-29T11:48:53-05:00

As far as a SPC standing at Parade Rest for an NCO. That's a No Brainer! I would've gotten a HUGE knot snatched in my ass if I didn't! Even would have happened if it was a CPL.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 2:55 PM

2016-02-29T14:55:53-05:00

Is this really even a conversation?

Response by Cpl Daniel Lee made Feb 29 at 2016 2:58 PM

2016-02-29T14:58:03-05:00

If I ever caught a service member standing at parade rest for a dependapotamus, that motherfucker would get fucked up 3 ways from sunday!!! A dependapotamus does not rate any form of honors in that manner because, in my opinion, they didnt earn a damn thing!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 3:29 PM

2016-02-29T15:29:14-05:00

No tell them to join the military if they want any respect

Response by SGT Chris McDaniel made Feb 29 at 2016 4:07 PM

2016-02-29T16:07:43-05:00

I would've laughed my ass of if some wife told me parade rest. And then I would've tooled her NCO hubby until he begged for a transfer

Response by LTC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 4:32 PM

2016-02-29T16:32:02-05:00

That picture has nothing to do with the discussion so my comments have nothing to do with whoever that is a picture of. This is the reason I have basically forbidden my wife and children to get involved in FRG or any other spousal group, even when I was deploying back and forth to Afghanistan. Most spouses thankfully understand that they have no authority at all but I saw plenty of NCO and Officer spouses who didn't get the memo when I was enlisted and swore I'd never take part in it. My wife knows she isn't on active duty and, by the same token, she also doesn't have to take any crap from a spouse because of who their husband is, either. This has saved us from a lot of drama over the past 12 years. Not judging those who do the whole FRG and spouse club thing...we just decided to stay out of it.

Response by SFC Wayne Theilen made Feb 29 at 2016 4:35 PM

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Response by CWO4 Gene A. made Feb 29 at 2016 4:43 PM

2016-02-29T16:43:01-05:00

Stupid question

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Feb 29 at 2016 5:31 PM

2016-02-29T17:31:48-05:00

Shouldn't be done, has no appeal.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 6:22 PM

2016-02-29T18:22:34-05:00

Why would someone want to get a tattoo with rank that changes, hopefully. I bet she didn't tell her husband otherwise, he would of voiced his opinion big time. The picture reminds me of the Norman Rockwell picture of the sailor, with the names cross out on his arm. Retired USA here and with multiple tattoos.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 6:52 PM

2016-02-29T18:52:21-05:00

Never....that spouse didnt go through all the stuff her service member did. Thats just stupid

Response by SPC Nathan Acreman made Feb 29 at 2016 8:05 PM

2016-02-29T20:05:29-05:00

When I was at Ft Campbell I had a nurse that was treating an injury for me, as it turns out she was the installation CSM's wife. I never thought to verify her story, I just took it for what it was, but she definitely thought she wore her husband's rank. I have seen this woman at later date get preferential treatment at DEERS, and I am sure this isn't just a local phenomenon it comes with the territory.

It does come with the territory that the wife most definitely has the ear of her husband, so she of course has influence. She likely can even take some credit for all of his success. Military spouses play huge role in unit readiness and should be held in a certain esteem.

All of that said, one doesn't have to be in the military to be given a high level of respect, but parade rest, salutes, and so forth are military honors and should remain as such, unless ceremony dictates otherwise.

Response by SPC James Martin made Feb 29 at 2016 9:04 PM

2016-02-29T21:04:26-05:00

Dependa. They're a class of their own

Response by SPC Korey Kilburn made Feb 29 at 2016 10:23 PM

2016-02-29T22:23:31-05:00

It is not you and your husband's rank unless you are both in the military. Military wives deserve the respect that they earn.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 10:38 PM

2016-02-29T22:38:33-05:00

Whoever was the 1% that said yes just get the hell out of here!!! Idiots

Response by SPC Anthony Weisenberger made Feb 29 at 2016 10:52 PM

2016-02-29T22:52:22-05:00

Fuck naw. Who the fuck is doing that? Fuck a dependa

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 12:09 AM

2016-03-01T00:09:11-05:00

I bet the 1 percent was a spouse. Lol

Response by PO3 Adam Finley made Mar 1 at 2016 6:44 AM

2016-03-01T06:44:25-05:00

Is this a serious question. I mean if this is it a we fully divisive and I am sure there ar many awful comments that will and have Ben posted on the matter I am sure. Yet as always I will bite. The obvious answer is a resounding no....the proper courtesy for a person wife nor husband is a sir or ma'am and that is about as far as it goes. They want the respect that come with a certain rank they need to sign up and serve themselves....

Response by SSG James Bigbie made Mar 1 at 2016 8:21 AM

2016-03-01T08:21:36-05:00

When I was in Germany the first time, our Troop CO's wife was a 1LT in the reserves, and thought that meant she was the XO. 1SG almost nicely gave her his opinion, and then she didn't come back to the office again.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 8:35 AM

2016-03-01T08:35:05-05:00

I'm going to attempt to continue my day acting as if I never saw this.

Response by Cheryl Carrier made Mar 1 at 2016 10:19 AM

2016-03-01T10:19:56-05:00

Wow, another bless'ed wife who thinks she is his rank. she wants to wear his rank, join the military and earn your own. If an officers or enlisted wife EVER tried to wear her husbands rank in front of me or use against me, she got an earful...You madam do not have rank, you cannot move up in line at the Commisary cause your husband out ranks mine. I am in line, with my husband at the commissary and I am 5 months pregnant with my twins, my husband was with me, he was in uniform, he was a PFC at the time, this woman walked up behind him told him to move that her husband was Col..so and so, my back was to her, he said ma'am, like questioning her, she repeated it.. I heard her this time, I turned around and told her to take her husbands rank and shove it up her ass and go to another line, that she is NOT a Col. and if she pursued it I would make sure to let her husband and his command know that she was trying to bully a pregnant woman our of line by trying to use her husbands rank, needless to say she walked away mad. But I was not moving.

Response by CW2 Carl Swanson made Mar 1 at 2016 10:26 AM

2016-03-01T10:26:42-05:00

Several years ago, when I was stationed at MCB Camp Pendleton, there was a battalion on post that was having major issues with the wives.

The Division Commander had a meeting in the post theater with the wives. When he walked on stage, the first thing he said, was that he wanted them to sit according to rank.

Of course, all the wives jumped up and started moving around, officers wives in front and so on until the most junior Private's wife was sitting in the back row.

Once they all settled down, the CG told them point blank that NONE of them had any rank and that if he heard about any more issues with the unit's wives, the husbands would all be going to Office Hours regardless of his rank, for failing to control their dependents.

Never heard of any more issues from that unit.

Response by FN Paul Wright made Mar 1 at 2016 11:01 AM

2016-03-01T11:01:22-05:00

He'll no, the spouse does alot to take care of her husband, but she never went through boot camp or stood in front of a flag and took an oath. So I say No

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 11:11 AM

2016-03-01T11:11:41-05:00

you kiddin right? seriously? this a joke isn't it? It's a spoof, some colonel's spouse or SGM spouse gonna tell me to stand at attention or parade rest? I would have laughed in their face. 'ma'am, I don't see rank on YOUR collar, oh you got a tat of YOUR HUSBAND'S RANK on your collar bones? um ok, have a nice day' as I leave her flabberghasted....wow what will they think of next?

Response by Sgt Mike Kirk made Mar 1 at 2016 12:07 PM

2016-03-01T12:07:30-05:00

Hell no they are a civilian they did not earn the tittle of they're spouse or the rank. Just because you are a spouse don't think you got a big head, marines do not owe spouses a damn thing.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 12:07 PM

2016-03-01T12:07:55-05:00

Unless she goes to Basic Combat Traing, AIT, and progresses to a rank higher than a junior enlisted Soldier, not no but oh f@&$" no.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 12:45 PM

2016-03-01T12:45:37-05:00

While I do find this completely ridiculous for spouses to project their spouses rank... It is very common amongst the officer ranks

Response by SGT Kim Dixon made Mar 1 at 2016 1:19 PM

2016-03-01T13:19:18-05:00

Heck no they are not military. They are spouses of military that's it.

Response by SPC Jeb Kieke made Mar 1 at 2016 1:58 PM

2016-03-01T13:58:14-05:00

Gay not happy but very homosexually gay, get off your danm high horse ladies.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 3:48 PM

2016-03-01T15:48:29-05:00

I worked in a hospital in Germany and we would get a lot of "higher ranking" wives that thought they had rank too.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Mar 1 at 2016 4:02 PM

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Like i say at the other thread, if the wife is not an nco/officer, i don't have to parade rest or stand at attention.

Response by SGT Christopher Churilla made Mar 1 at 2016 4:17 PM

2016-03-01T16:17:52-05:00

Absolutely! It should also be done when addressing their kids too! ;) :P

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 5:19 PM

2016-03-01T17:19:00-05:00

I guess he's never going to promote?

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 8:25 PM

2016-03-01T20:25:03-05:00

I'm just sitting here like who is the 1% that said yes did they do it as a joke or do they feel like there wife is quees stuff

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 9:04 PM

2016-03-01T21:04:51-05:00

No, I'm sorry. A spouse does not take an oath of enlistment, nor does he/she carry or utilize a weapon or training to fight for freedom and his/her life. Military spouses do deserve respect for their own sacrifices but we should not be required to treat them as if they themselves have earned the rank

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 10:07 PM

2016-03-01T22:07:40-05:00

Unless the spouse is in the military and of rank to deserve that respect then no

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 10:13 PM

2016-03-01T22:13:32-05:00

Hey if a wife wants to wear their husbands rank, than she can join the service. I wouldn't and I would not expect my Soldiers too.. PS I hope they would call me if the situation presents itself.

Response by SGT Christina Barron made Mar 1 at 2016 11:16 PM

2016-03-01T23:16:33-05:00

NO!!! Be respectful, but no one stands at Parade Rest or Attention when speaking to a spouse, no matter how high-ranking the serving member of that couple is, unless the spouse is also serving, and in uniform. I'm certain some spouses like to push people around and think they deserve special treatment based on the rank of the SM, but they don't. And, it would be very difficult to even be respectful to an overbearing spouse.

Response by PO3 Chris Rauterkus made Mar 1 at 2016 11:35 PM

2016-03-01T23:35:27-05:00

No effing way! Just because their husband or wife outranks you, does not mean they deserve the respect you give to the ACTUAL service member.

Response by SPC Michael Leggitt made Mar 2 at 2016 12:55 AM

2016-03-02T00:55:41-05:00

holy shit roll out the commissary water buffaloes. listen your a spouse not a service member. I don't care what rock you crawled out from under or who your husband is. Oh, the many times the FRG walrus thought she had some pull and yes i have gotten a bullshit counseling for Disrespect to a NCO for telling his wife to fuck off. look at it this way, My wife was in the army too she got out and her rank left with her.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 2:30 AM

2016-03-02T02:30:47-05:00

Dependents do not have the rank, if you want it join and earn it. On that note the woman in this photo was in the marines for 8 years and did earn it.

Response by MAJ Keith FitzPatrick, CPIM, CSCP made Mar 2 at 2016 8:52 AM

2016-03-02T08:52:18-05:00

What if the soldier gets demoted? LOL!

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Mar 2 at 2016 9:45 AM

2016-03-02T09:45:00-05:00

I have said to and told my wife she has no RANK, she is a military spouse, that give's her NO privileges other than being able to shop at the PX or commissary. Wives have NO RANK! I have pissed off a couple of wives here and there. One was a COL wife who forgot her ID. Wouldn't let her on post! She called her husband in a rant. I could hear him cussing at her. He came to the gate parked his car, got what he had forgot at home. Thanked me and left! LOL he was furious! (short version)

Response by 1SG Mark Reed made Mar 2 at 2016 10:25 AM

2016-03-02T10:25:11-05:00

Not at all and when a spouse tries to wear it, it usually doesn't go real well for the spouse or service member. I know personally that writing a parking ticket for the commanding generals wife got me a 1yr isolated tour to Johnston island. Ended up be a great assignment, but I would have preferred Hawaii

Response by MSgt Aaron Brite made Mar 2 at 2016 12:20 PM

2016-03-02T12:20:49-05:00

Proper rendering of hand to salute to ranking spouses (particularly when identified by rank tatoos) Salute with right hand, middle through pinky fingers curled, index finger fully extended from Palm, thumb fully exted perpendicular to index finger. Back of hand placed in center of forehead with thumb parallel to and just above eyebrows.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 12:55 PM

2016-03-02T12:55:40-05:00

I am at a loss for words with this stupidity so all I will say is this.

SERIOUSLY?!?!

Response by TSgt Lars Eilenfeld made Mar 2 at 2016 12:59 PM

2016-03-02T12:59:34-05:00

No, the wife has no rank, be respectful, but ultimately the wife needs to show you respect because you wear the uniform to protect her, this sounds like something that would be expected by Air Force wives.

Response by SSG Chris Black made Mar 2 at 2016 1:33 PM

2016-03-02T13:33:13-05:00

Not only no hell no. If my wife ever got that STUPID I would have smacked her and given her the boot. Dependent a demanding or thinking such are dead wrong and need to be corrected.

Response by SPC Jeremy Gore made Mar 2 at 2016 4:21 PM

2016-03-02T16:21:06-05:00

The tattoo is gay

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 6:57 PM

2016-03-02T18:57:10-05:00

We should show respect to military spouses. Many of them, to include my wife are driving factors of many decisions that military personnel make. My wife advises me on many aspects of my professional career and it has proven to be successful. Standing at parade rest? No. Showing respect, Yes. There are some spouses who feel "entitled" and demand respect that they will most likely never earn. They are a true reflection of the active duty service member.

Response by PO1 Scott Cottrell made Mar 2 at 2016 7:57 PM

2016-03-02T19:57:29-05:00

Not even an officers spouse. True story, the parking lot by my barracks was also next to the auto hobby shop. An O-4,s son Said I parked in his spot, it was open parking. It went so far as I was called by his father telling not to park there any more. To which, I told him if he thinks his son can use his rank then to call my father (O-6), and to make sure he referred to him as Captain.

Response by SPC Melinda Burg made Mar 2 at 2016 8:53 PM

2016-03-02T20:53:20-05:00

I am a Veteran I was in the US Army reserve and served during Desert Storm.
And my hubby rejoined the National Guard and I don't think wives should receive any special treatment.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 10:02 PM

2016-03-02T22:02:17-05:00

I love some good satire.

Response by CPT Tom Monahan made Mar 2 at 2016 10:59 PM

2016-03-02T22:59:52-05:00

Unless the NCOs spouse is an NCO no way. They should be polite.

Response by LCpl Ryan Eggers made Mar 2 at 2016 11:27 PM

2016-03-02T23:27:09-05:00

Only if during a formation where they have been invited to speak.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2016 9:11 AM

2016-03-03T09:11:53-05:00

I earn my rank they are just married to it.

Response by Cpl Kyle Farmer made Mar 3 at 2016 9:12 AM

2016-03-03T09:12:10-05:00

You know when i was in i remember working with military police in Hawaii... Standing at the gate checking id's and saluting officers... Officer wives would come through the gate and expect to be treated like there husbands. Not only were they rude, arrogent or plain right disrespectful on so many levels. I would walk up to there car bend over the hood and salute the sticker on the windshield. In all reality they are spouses they didnt say the oath we said. They do not deploy as we do. If anything all the respect they deserve is kindness. Dumbest question ive seen yet

Response by SFC Fred Milliken made Mar 3 at 2016 11:20 AM

2016-03-03T11:20:23-05:00

Sure tattoo your spouse's rank on yourself. It is reenforcing that there is no hope for promotion. Dumb ass

Response by SGT Dave Oman made Mar 3 at 2016 12:30 PM

2016-03-03T12:30:01-05:00

She is not her husband rank. Be polite and respectful.

Response by CPL Scott Young made Mar 3 at 2016 3:47 PM

2016-03-03T15:47:05-05:00

Who earned the rank, the SM or the spouse?

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2016 6:03 PM

2016-03-03T18:03:53-05:00

Yeah and the spouses that are married to Jr Marines can give me a verbal greeting in the commissary and stand at parade rest for me. Are we being serious???

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2016 6:14 PM

2016-03-03T18:14:00-05:00

Response by SGT George Smead made Mar 3 at 2016 7:48 PM

2016-03-03T19:48:24-05:00

For the 1% who said "Yes", Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Response by SGT Romeo Reyes made Mar 3 at 2016 9:44 PM

2016-03-03T21:44:09-05:00

You're a moron if you voted yes

Response by SP5 Roberta Sanchez made Mar 3 at 2016 10:57 PM

2016-03-03T22:57:36-05:00

Tattoo of rank is fine unless the service member gets promoted or busted. Officer's spouses to not get to enforce military courtesy, but they should be respected as any other person.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2016 9:14 AM

2016-03-04T09:14:49-05:00

Any spouse that tries to get a Soldier to stand at parade rest to them because their husband/wife is military I would tell them to FUCK THE FUCK OFF and if they think for a minute they are authorized to do so I would SMOKE THE SHIT out of them, find their military spouse and smoke the shit out of them too. ANYONE like that can KISS MY ASS!!!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2016 1:48 PM

2016-03-08T13:48:29-05:00

As for the photo in the OP, I just hope her husband never gets promoted...

Response by SPC Brandon Hamilton made Mar 29 at 2016 4:25 PM

2016-03-29T16:25:24-04:00

Negative.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 7:50 PM

2016-03-29T19:50:57-04:00

Well, what is the rank of the NCO's wife?

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 5:03 PM

2016-08-04T17:03:23-04:00

Oh good gawd. Must be a troll question.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2016 10:02 PM

2016-08-15T22:02:56-04:00

Ok. I'm going to step across the "be nice and polite" line. SSG "Anonymous" doesn't have the mental fortitude nor capacity to post a question or issue that is relevant to the military and the lack of a spine by being anonymous. Plain and simple, it's a troll question designed to illicit my response that is: You're a douchebag for even posting this. Were you drunk, high, or just plain stupid? As a supposed "Staff NCO" you should be above topics like this. You appear to have neither the discipline nor moral bearing necessary to lead from the front. You are an embarrassment to the NCO community. Were you one of my troops, you'd have wished you had chosen to be a burger flipper in a McDonald's uniform instead of an Army one.

Response by SGT Joseph Miller made Sep 24 at 2016 3:23 AM

2016-09-24T03:23:14-04:00

I'll answer this question with a story, when I was 8 years old my father was the COB (chief of the Boat) for the USS Sturgeon in Charleston SC, Which was a nuclear fast attack submarine , when we got a new captain assigned to the boat, now my dad was an old salty and my mother had just enough attitude to put up with an old salty chief like my dad, well the new captains wife came in and treated the boats crews wives like her own command barking orders at the wives when she made the mistake one night of barking orders at my momma and the four letter words started flying and my momma would have made a navy chief blush, she told this woman that she didn't wear her husbands rank on her panties and if she didn't get the f@#k out of her house the only thing that will beat her too the hospital is the ambulance she's riding in. So the next day my dad was called in before the captain and told he better control his wife where upon he told the captain to keep his big mouth wife the f@$k away from his wife . We'll the captain went after my father through the military and the captain got a letter of reprimand over that and my dad transferred to the USS Sunfish SSN649 as the COB which was a much better boat.

Response by SPC Brandon Hamilton made Sep 29 at 2016 3:59 PM

2016-09-29T15:59:28-04:00

N/A

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2016 10:17 AM

2016-12-27T10:17:20-05:00

Fuck no

Response by SSG Branyn Burkhart made Dec 29 at 2016 11:40 PM

2016-12-29T23:40:31-05:00

Ha ha. You're kidding, right?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2017 1:23 PM

2017-05-28T13:23:27-04:00

Response by MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht made May 29 at 2017 4:12 PM

2017-05-29T16:12:09-04:00

I don't understand the question. Where are you at? In a formation? What is the deal with the wife? Promotion? passing? This is a dumb question. Would you want the troops to do this for your wife?

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made May 29 at 2017 4:38 PM

2017-05-29T16:38:21-04:00

Absolutely not this is ridiculous!

Response by Cpl Eric Young made Jun 1 at 2017 4:21 PM

2017-06-01T16:21:09-04:00

The only real answer here is..... does the wife or spouse actively hold a superior rank to the junior enlisted? If your Swuad leader is married to an active duty sgt and your a lcpl.... then obviously yes.....

If your CO is married to a civilian.... then the answer is no. You are required to show the proper respect to a higher rank. If said spouse does not hold a rank, then respectfully decline.

Response by SPC Greg Burnett made Jun 3 at 2017 6:15 PM

2017-06-03T18:15:28-04:00

CRAP! I didn't read all the way to the end. I went with "No" instead of "NO. Not just no, but HELL no!!!". How do I change my vote?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2017 1:16 AM

2017-06-04T01:16:28-04:00

Airman do not stand at parade rest for an NCO, not even a SNCO unless they are told to. Unless things have changed. Although, if a chief walked into the room, I would certainly show them some respect.

BUT, this reminds me of when I was visiting a Navy base. I was an E-5. I was given a room with lower enlisted because the billeting was booked. Partly our fault, we had a bunch on our aircraft. I walked into the long hall way and all the Seaman jumped to parade rest against the wall. Seriously, it freaked me out.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2017 8:33 PM

2017-07-24T20:33:59-04:00

What happens when he gets promoted? does she do a cover up?

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jul 25 at 2017 7:35 AM

2017-07-25T07:35:09-04:00

No.

Response by CMSgt Christie V. made Aug 12 at 2017 7:38 PM

2017-08-12T19:38:24-04:00

I definitely don't agree with people standing at parade rest for spouses. However, I've had someone do it to me. I met an Army member, jr enlisted, in the middle of Texas, asking for directions to Ft. Hood. As I was heading that way, I told him he could follow me. As we were talking I told him I was a first sergeant in the Air Force. That did not faze him, as he merely replied he had been in the Air Force prior to joining the Army. We talked a bit longer and I learned he had just returned from deployment. My husband's unit was just returning from deployment too, so I asked which unit he was assigned to. I told him it was the same unit my husband was assigned to. He asked who my husband was and I told him, SGM Van Aken. He went to parade rest immediately and his demeanor abruptly changed. My husband had not yet returned from his deployment, but when I spoke with him that night I told him about one of his soldiers not finding it necessary to stand at parade rest when speaking with a first sgt (which, in the situation, I absolutely did not expect it), but immediately coming to parade rest for a SGM's spouse. When my husband returned he gave his soldier a bit of a ribbing for that, as well as for needing to rely on an Air Force member for navigation.

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Aug 12 at 2017 8:35 PM

2017-08-12T20:35:44-04:00

In whose universe?

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Aug 18 at 2017 11:45 AM

2017-08-18T11:45:50-04:00

Another GI JANE husbands wife.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Jan 16 at 2018 10:36 AM

2018-01-16T10:36:31-05:00

No Way

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Jan 16 at 2018 11:49 AM

2018-01-16T11:49:11-05:00

We never had this in my Army. You are asking soldiers to stand to for some POG to feed his/her ego. Absolute bull crap

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 11 at 2018 5:42 PM

2018-04-11T17:42:38-04:00

not NO but HELL NO, common courtesy is all that is required.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 4:05 PM

2018-12-22T16:05:01-05:00

No.

Response by SFC Bill Kurtz made Nov 23 at 2019 4:21 PM

2019-11-23T16:21:17-05:00

The one and only time in my 22.5 year Army career that a major’s wife tried to direct me I had a hard time not laughing my head off. After I politely refused her, she propositioned me! Bat $h1t crazed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2019 6:34 PM

2019-11-23T18:34:21-05:00

Gtfo with this question

Response by CWO4 Gene A. made Nov 23 at 2019 7:00 PM

2019-11-23T19:00:04-05:00

Stupid question.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 14 at 2021 4:45 PM

2021-07-14T16:45:25-04:00

Ridiculous.

Response by SGT Charles Whited made Nov 26 at 2021 10:33 PM

2021-11-26T22:33:29-05:00

Just as an extension of courtesy at an ease posture is the least. If she engages in small talk with you, then relax and be yourself.