Should a service member be allowed to attend an NCOES school (WLC) after failing to pass a Bn schools APFT?

2015-09-21T16:23:24-04:00

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Sep 21 at 2015 4:38 PM

2015-09-21T16:38:28-04:00

No, a failed record APFT = a flag and makes them ineligible to attend the school, do the Soldier a favor and ensure they are prepared to be successful. Nobody wants to fail, anything, helping them get to where they ought to be will help them as an individual and the unit as a whole in the long run!

Response by SFC Stephen King made Sep 21 at 2015 5:11 PM

2015-09-21T17:11:14-04:00

No
FLAG
Record APFT

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 21 at 2015 5:26 PM

2015-09-21T17:26:57-04:00

No as he is expected to pass the APFT. It would be a waste of money and time when he flunks the APFT at WLC. He would be set up for failure. He needs to pass the APFT to go to the school. You don't reward failure.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 7:57 PM

2015-09-21T19:57:05-04:00

It is a good way to end someone's career if they do poorly or fail the APFT at school the 1059 is a permanent record. I've seen CDR's and CSM's promote it just for that reason alone.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 8:58 PM

2015-09-21T20:58:56-04:00

I wouldn't send the Soldier and I wouldn't think twice about it. As a steward of the Army's money and professionals, I would not send a Soldier there to fail. I am obligated to ensure they are ready to attend, including physically.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2015 3:03 AM

2015-09-22T03:03:30-04:00

Nope. Simple as that. He failed the prerequisite test. Give that slot to someone that deserves it.