Should the military recognize spouses with an award?

CW2 Jonathan Kantor — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:45:02 -0400

Should the military recognize spouses with an award?  I think so.  At the very least, spouses should be presented with a Certification of Appreciation when their husbands and wives return from a deployment.  A ceremony should be held honoring them.  I have felt this way for years and even though my wife would probably not care, I know a lot of spouses who would.  They help us through the tough times throughout our careers and they deserve to be recognized.  Thoughts?<br><br>***I am not talking about blanket awards here but rather those recommended by the Soldier for support they gave to the unit.***  Sorry I didn't initially make that clear.<br>

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 3:54 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:54:12 -0400

If a spouse has done something to benefit the organization as a whole then yes. Aboslutely! In fact I have seen them. Just for the sake of being a spouse? I don't think so. A lot goes on "behind closed doors" that we don't see as service members especially while deployed. So If evry single spouse was given the same award when a whole unit redeploys what does that say? To me nothing more than a check the block. Then when you look at it form the perspective of the spouses, let's say you have a spouse cheating on their deployed Soldier (happens all the time), the community of spouses knows about it but the Soldier don't. All the spouses get the same "thank you" "award" what does it really mean to them in the end?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 3:58 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:58:32 -0400

Sir, I don't think they should be given that honor from the military.  I mean with all these spouses cheating on each other during the deployments and there is no way for anyone to verify that they were really truly dedicated to their spouse who's overseas or even to the unit in that matter should not be given no award.  Especially when you have spouses cheating in the same unit. I mean what would be the requirements for such an award to be granted?  The one person that matters that should recognize their spouse is the one their married to.  If someone outside your home recognizes your spouse and you can't do it yourself, your just asking for a divorce.  And we already have military wives wearing their husbands rank and thats just another way to add fuel to fire. 

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 4:32 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:32:22 -0400

My wife received Two awards Dr. Mary E Walker award given by a Major General and a Commanders Award for Public Service. She received these awards for setting up battalion/unit functions, Helping families with or without special needs children. Devoting her time to welcome new families and new babies at hospital with baskets she made herself. I can go on, But, awards should be given for accomplishments that better the unit, not just the individual in that unit.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 5:05 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:05:55 -0400

Hell no.

They're not military, so in my eyes, they are not worthy of any kind of official military recognition. I despise spouses who feel entitled to such things and by extension the service members that enable them with this nonsense.

Edit: fixed formatting.

Response by SFC Timothy Riser made Apr 8 at 2014 5:13 PM

SFC Timothy Riser — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:13:57 -0400

The Army units have ways to honor spouses and significant others for their sacrifices and for instance, the Molly Pitcher award for FA and ADA spouses, the Certificates of appreciations from their respective units and volunteers services. I do not believe a spouse or significant other should recieve an award for surviving their significant others deployment unless it has something to do with them volunteering hours to send care packages to Soldiers in the unit, managing the FRG or something to that nature. If every spouse recieved an award for survivng their sposes deployment wouldn't that be the same as a blanket award?.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 7:38 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:38:17 -0400

There are awards that commanders can award. Like the commanders award for public service. Google it and you will see a whole bunch for them.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2014 5:42 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 05:42:59 -0400

military spouses don't need any more attention than what they get from their counterparts if they feel they need recognition from the military then they should join case closed .

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Apr 10 at 2014 7:36 AM

MSG Wade Huffman — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 07:36:43 -0400

There are awards throughout DOD for civilian service (as there should be). While they are not specifically used for spouses, the are used in recognition of outstanding service by a civilian. No reason that a spouse can't receive one (my wife received one for her volunteer work while I was still on active duty). So.. an award for being a spouse?? Nope.. for contributions above and beyond? If merited, of course!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2014 10:55 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 May 2014 22:55:15 -0400

What we do in my unit is a troop is tasked to submit a volunteer of the month every month. Most of the time its a spouse but sometimes a Soldier. Thats a start to get your volunteer spouses recognized.
I just put in a spouse for a Helping Hands award today, should get it back in 2 weeks.
Just make sure your volunteers are enrolled in VIMS or they can't be put in for any award above the company/troop level.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 9 at 2014 6:55 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 06:55:36 -0400

In my unit, when we got promoted, our spouse would also get pinned with an honorary rank +1 to remind us that real power lies behind the throne. It was a nice sign of respect for our spouses.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jun 9 at 2014 11:42 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:42:01 -0400

It's very possible if the Commander is willing to do the leg work. I posted a thread here a while back about my wife recieving the Commanders Award for Public Service for the work she's done for the local community.

For the regulation covering awards of this nature, see the following regulation:

AR 672-20 Decorations, Awards, and Honors Incentive Awards

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/a-deserved-congratulations

A deserved congratulations. | RallyPoint

Nothing dramatic or controversial here, I just wanted to send out a special congratulations  in honor of my wife, who was presented the Commanders Award for Public Service today, in honor of the ridiculous amount of time, sweat, and effort she put into the Fort Lee community and the Combined Arms Support Command.I only include the image of the award and certificate because I keep getting asked what that award even is =o)

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jun 9 at 2014 12:51 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:51:23 -0400

There is already such a thing. See AR 672-20, chapter 9. There also branch honors such as the Order of Saint Barbara companion award of The Molly Pitcher Award (Artillery) or the Order of Samuel Sharpe (Ordnance) companion award, the Keeper of the Flame. There is absolutely nothing to prevent a Commander from issuing a certificate of appreciation to spouses and other family who have supported the unit, deployed or not.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jun 10 at 2014 1:11 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:11:34 -0400

It would have to really depend on what the spouse does. Supporting your husband/wife while deployed, although not an easy job by any means, wouldn't really earn you an award. You married him/her knowing that the chance of being alone to run the house for undetermined amount of time was likely. But if the spouse did something to help the unit then yes, consideration for award should be given.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2014 10:10 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:10:40 -0400

Chief,

If a spouse is going to be put in for an award, use the channels that already exist. There are civilian volunteer awards that commands can put people in for, they just don't read up on it or follow through because they require a ton of work. If they're involved with the unit's activities then these should be easy to request and justify. But no, I don't feel that getting a special award set up for that type of thing is the right answer.

Response by 1SG Charles Lyons made Jun 27 at 2014 10:39 PM

1SG Charles Lyons — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:39:59 -0400

No, not for the reason you described!

Response by Sgt Sasha Cruz made Oct 22 at 2014 2:27 PM

Sgt Sasha Cruz — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:27:55 -0400

So that they feel even more entitled to 'military discounts' and that 'they served too'? Don't empower that kind of behavior!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2014 9:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:56:51 -0500

Yes, think about the spouses who support the FRG PROGRAM. It is someone's spouse the is behind it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 7 at 2015 11:33 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 11:33:00 -0500

Here is you solution. If you have an AWESOME military spouse as I do, someone who has supported you through many deployments; can anticipate your needs; has helped improve the life of your fellow Soldiers, Sailors or Airman; started, leads or supports an organization that improves our lives as military; what ever reason you think she might be the best Military Spouse on your Installation or in your states National Guard.

http://msoy.militaryspouse.com/

Military Spouse of the Year

“We applaud every military spouse, the unsung heroes who maintain the home-front during lengthy deployments, selflessly give back to their communities through volunteer work, and provide moral support for their loved ones serving both at home and in harm’s way. On behalf of Armed Forces Insurance, we salute each of you!”

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2015 12:55 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:55:44 -0500

Many times they are recognized with awards and recognition.

It just should not be carte blanche as the Army awards process has become. If you are at Fort Hood, great spouses can be recognized with the Yellow Rose of Texas Award. Nearly every base that I have been to has spouse recognition ceremonies where spouses are recognized with some type of award, usually on a quarterly basis. The Presidential Volunteer Awards are not that hard to get for someone either, you just have to do the leg work that they are doing by volunteering to aid your unit.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2015 10:35 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 10:35:22 -0400

There are already was in place for commands to give a spouse an award, I have done it. However, Upon retirement the spouse receives recognition from the President of the United States in the form of a certificate. I think in addition to the certificate the spouse should receive an official one time retirement award in the form of a medal/medallion based on his/her time in support to the military spouse. Let's say, 10 years a bronze, 15 years a silver, and 20+ years gold. I have been with my spouse for 23 years of my currently 29 year career. Does she deserve something for that service? Absolutely.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 23 at 2015 8:29 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 08:29:55 -0400

They CAN recieve awards. My wife recieved the Commanders Award for Public Service for her volunteerism. Army Regulation 672-20 lists the different categories of awards a commander can bestow upon civilians..

Response by SSG Esperance Dawson made Jul 29 at 2017 1:12 PM

SSG Esperance Dawson — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 13:12:25 -0400

When I was in the National Guard the FRG would give certificate of appreciation to the family members who contributed to the organizations. but not for just being there supporting their deployed soldiers.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 2:06 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 14:06:41 -0400

There already is an award for military spouses. On top of certificates of appreciation there is the Dr. Mary E. Walker award. If you're a real leader you already know about this award and how to apply for it. Spouses are an integral part of what we do, to see their contributions as insignificant is a travesty. Go back and reexamine your career, life, and leadership style.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 2:07 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 14:07:21 -0400

Throughout my career so far, my wife has functioned at every level of FRG, from member to Key Caller, to Assistant FRG Leader, to FRG Leader. She kept the family and the finances going through two year-long deployments and one unaccompanied tour in Korea. She doesn't do the things she does for recognition or personal reasons, she does it all to help further MY career. She has been given certificates of appreciation or achievement for her work with various FRG groups. You know what she does with them? She tosses them in a box and forgets about them. I tried to frame and hang one of them on the wall once; she told me to take it down and put it away.

Now, I've heard and experienced all the FRG drama while in various units, and yeah there are THOSE spouses who cause drama, think they wear rank, etc. so no, those spouses don't deserve anything. But those who have contributed significantly to the unit should be recognized just as much as a Servicemember. In my wife's case, that has happened. It all depends on the unit and the Command Team.

Response by SGT Sunny Lalingua made Jul 29 at 2017 2:26 PM

SGT Sunny Lalingua — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 14:26:23 -0400

depends on the "award". what is it you want to give military member's spouse? They already get plenty of benefits just by marrying into the military, health, dental, vision, food stamps, housing or BAQ, education benefits, vacation days, commissary PX/BX privileges, reduced taxation on food, clothing, gasoline, cigarettes, alcohol. If they live in military housing do they pay utility bills? I don't know I never lived on base when I was married. but I do know they got free repairs for their housing unit if the family was found not to be the perpetrator of the damage. They could get free paint and brushes and pans, new blinds, new reflector plans for the stoves, and tons of other items for regular upkeep of their family housing unit. What more do they need, an attagirl or attaboy for supporting the fighting force? her ya go, ATTA GIRL, ATTA BOY, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THOSE WHO SERVE.

Response by SFC Shane Funkhouser made Jul 29 at 2017 2:26 PM

SFC Shane Funkhouser — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 14:26:46 -0400

Really? An award for what exactly? For not divorcing you while you were gone? For not cleaning out your bank account? For not selling all your stuff and moving in with someone else? Please there are enough bullshit awards given out. There are some spouses who go above and beyond organizing care packages and other such things and they usually do get recognized at the end of a deployment. It's enough.

Response by Quinton Rhodes-Johnson made Jul 29 at 2017 2:33 PM

Quinton Rhodes-Johnson — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 14:33:35 -0400

Funny thing is I am a spouse. I don't want an award for just being married to my soldier. Now if I'm involved with the unit and helping them out then yea, it would be nice but not required. When they come home from deployment just relax with them and spend time/give space as needed

Response by SFC Jason Kopp made Jul 29 at 2017 3:16 PM

SFC Jason Kopp — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:16:07 -0400

I believe that the spouse deserves some sort of official recognition for their efforts but not an official military medal. Military medals should be only for military service members. That being said, the Infantry has a level of award through the Order of St. Maurice dedicated to civilian service to the Infantry. I'm not saying that is what they should earn, but maybe something can be implemented in that spirit. Having served in 3 combat deployments, 2 of them while being married. I believe whole heartedly that I would not have experienced the levels of success I had without her support to me and my Unit.

Response by SGT Stephen Croushore made Jul 29 at 2017 3:39 PM

SGT Stephen Croushore — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:39:19 -0400

No, unless they have contributed significantly to the unit as a whole. But just because they are a spouse? No. They knew that they were getting into marrying a service member subject to the needs of the service. Not understanding that simple concept is cause for the vast majority of the personal problems in regard to their relationship with their service member spouse. Maybe they should recite a service spouse Creed every morning to remind themselves of why they are there (..."fully knowing the hazards of my decision to marry a service member"...)

Response by MSgt Jason McClish made Jul 29 at 2017 3:48 PM

MSgt Jason McClish — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:48:53 -0400

I do, but not some sort of DoD service award. The award would be given to service members who retire only and that marriage has lasted longer than half of the member's career. If enlisted, the certificate should be signed by the service's SEL. If officer, their service Chief. It doesn't need to be lavish, but should be somewhat personal by mentioning number of deployments, TDYs, etc.

Response by LTC Dallas Powell made Jul 29 at 2017 4:14 PM

LTC Dallas Powell — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:14:15 -0400

Battalion Commander here, and I say yes. I recently gave two departing spouses the Certificate of Appreciation for Patriotic Civilian Service, which includes a lapel pin. I've always been a fan of giving deserving spouses some sort of award to show the unit's appreciation for their support of their Servicemember, especially if that spouse is involved in the unit or the community, because their support contributes to the command's mission. Someone else mentioned branch-specific decorations (Molly Pitcher, etc.), and I think those are appropriate as well. Not every spouse has to get one, though -- it's up to the commander, but they should be given sparingly.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 4:15 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:15:00 -0400

My wife supported my military career for the 24 years I served. She also was one the spouses that didn't really like the certificates of appreciation given out because she said she wasn't in the military, that I was.

I'm sure some spouses would probably appreciate it but some wouldn't.

Response by PO3 David Adams made Jul 29 at 2017 5:04 PM

PO3 David Adams — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 17:04:31 -0400

Damn Straight - I've been on Both sides of Deployment - I'd Rather be the one Deployed - Than Being at Home Worrying if my loved one would make it back!

Response by PO3 David Phillips Jr. made Jul 29 at 2017 5:29 PM

PO3 David Phillips Jr. — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 17:29:10 -0400

Whomever proposed this was probably directed to by his wife. A soldier at work, but whipped and snipped at home.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 9:20 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:20:14 -0400

They do it when we retire, so why not!? Whoever is salty and can't see beyond the impacts a deployment has needs to be evaluated. I grew up military and saw the struggle my mother had when my dad was gone. To note he volunteered for it as did she when she married him, but lets get real here. You did good on a deployment you walk with a accommodation medal. So why shouldn't the spouse receive at least a letter of appreciation?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 9:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:34:59 -0400

An award for what? Being a good spouse? Why should someone get an award for doing what should be expected of them? They're job is to be there for you through tough times and your career and the same should be said of servicemebers being there for their spouses through their tough times and careers (if they have one). That's like handing out participation trophies...

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Jul 29 at 2017 9:35 PM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:35:12 -0400

The only award My wife received was a certificate in a nice hard cover blue folder with an Air Force seal on it,for support given at the same time I received My Retirement Certificate from the USAF. I'm pretty sure any spouse would receive the same. That was nice gesture from the Air Force but She wasn't there to take any bows or anything like that, just support Me and that is what She did. She had Her own job and career as a teacher. She never sought or expected anything that wasn't from Her own occupation and neither did I. Our joint team was our own household, family and support for each other. I wouldn't want it any other way.

Response by MSgt Gloria Gray made Jul 29 at 2017 10:15 PM

MSgt Gloria Gray — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:15:18 -0400

I just retired after 27 years in the USAF. My father spent 25 years in the navy starting during the Vietnam war. My mother was an integral part of keeping our family together. As a child in the 70s and 80s when my father was out to sea, my mother had me and my siblings sit down every Sunday after church to write my father a letter. But we had rules. We could not complain or tell him bad news. Like the washer quit working or the water heater needed to be replaced. We could only tell him good things. Like our report card or our ball team winning. She explained to us very young that he can't help with the bad things so we shouldn't burden him with things he can't fix. I think my mom did a great job. She was also leader of the wives club when my father was a Senior Chief. Do I think she needs an "award". Maybe just a letter of appreciation for her hard work keeping the home life straight and leading other wives to do the same. I have experienced deployment in every way you can imagine. I was the child left at home when daddy went away. I was the wife left at home when my husband deployed and I was the wife and mother who left my family to deploy. Those faithful spouses who keep our homes and families together while we are gone do deserve something. Just a letter of appreciation maybe.

Response by SPC Todd Rhoades made Jul 29 at 2017 11:09 PM

SPC Todd Rhoades — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 23:09:30 -0400

I've read enough to throw this out there. There are awards for efforts above and beyond, but the idea that a spouse should receive an award for simply living up to a commitment ( spouse - parent ) is bullshit. I have been a single parent for 11 years with 7 more to go, a disabled vet for 27, recalled for Desert Storm while on VA comp, no awards expected or even wanted. I raised my hand and made a commitment, I dropped my drawers and made a commitment. Anyone who feels they are entitled to an award for simply honoring commitment needs to back the fuck up, cause their the problem not the solution.
This opinion may offend some of you pups that are thin skinned and weak souled, too bad, it's high time we get back to doing it because it's right, not because you want a pat on the back.

Response by PO1 Shannon Drosdak made Jul 30 at 2017 12:31 AM

PO1 Shannon Drosdak — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 00:31:01 -0400

As a Veteran and a spouse I'm gonna say no.
I read in the thread where FRG and OMBUDSMAN were mentioned. These are voluntary positions, when you volunteer it's not for an award however I have seen little awards given.
I was given a "Thank You" letter when my husband re-enlisted, he was given one when I re-enlisted. They're in a box somewhere. Just silly.
When my husband deploys he deploys. My life goes on. I get to sleep in my bed, visit family, continue working my job. I married him because I love him. I knew what I was getting into I don't deserve anything for my decision on who I married. I support him, listen to his day, write him emails and send care packages when he's stateside and when he's gone. That's what marriage is. I don't deserve an award to put on my wall or pin to my purse for all to see. His thanks and appreciation is enough. I'm sorry but as a veteran this "We serve to" mentality I see so often really annoys me. They married their spouse however they aren't doing their spouses job. They're being a spouse.
This life isn't for everyone but there's no point in giving a participation trophy to spouses just for who they married.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2017 1:38 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 01:38:09 -0400

I feel like this is satire........

Response by SSG Jim Foreman made Jul 30 at 2017 4:11 AM

SSG Jim Foreman — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 04:11:25 -0400

Wait, what about your kids. After all we don't want them feeling leftout unappreciated. Then there's the single troop. Mom and Dad did such a great job with jr...what abut their certificate? Snowflakes melt if they're not reminded enough how special.....no, how average they are.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2018 11:41 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:41:33 -0400

Fuck no,

Response by SSG Pat O'Flaherty made Sep 20 at 2018 8:07 PM

SSG Pat O'Flaherty — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:07:19 -0400

A great idea. The spouse serves with you.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Sep 20 at 2018 8:15 PM

Cpl Rc Layne — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:15:20 -0400

Doesn't make any sense to me. Why again?

Response by SSG Julian Nicholson made Sep 20 at 2018 8:18 PM

SSG Julian Nicholson — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:18:41 -0400

The Army already recognizes spouses who provide countless hours of volunteer work and facilitating other spouses and dependents with deployed sponsors. They are given framed letters of appreciation and gifts such as gift cards, flowers or more as additional tokens of appreciation. This is typically presented to the recipient during a Unit function or in front of the Unit while in formation. Obviously much of this is dictated by the unit leadership on how they choose to provide recognition.

Response by CPT Jeff Robinette made Sep 20 at 2018 10:06 PM

CPT Jeff Robinette — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0400

Simple Answer; NO!
Spouses, like Children are Dependants

Response by SPC Brian Romine made Sep 20 at 2018 10:12 PM

SPC Brian Romine — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:12:51 -0400

When my father got called up for his final deployment; leaving my wife and I to run the family business, we were given certificates of appreciation from his unit. There was no ceremony and as a former infantryman myself I would have found it corny. That being said, my wife was very proud of them and they hung on the living room wall from that point forward. I agree they shouldn't be given just because your spouse didn't cheat but if the soldier and his unit feel they really did something to keep up his morale and insure there were no worries at home then I think it's a wonderful idea.

Response by SSG David Stafne made Sep 20 at 2018 10:55 PM

SSG David Stafne — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:55:49 -0400

Trust me, no WestPac Widow will ever receive a Good Conduct Medal!

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 5:26 AM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 05:26:16 -0400

Chief They do well some do the the drill sergeant of the cycle if they have a wife they get something I forget but I know they get a certificate of something

Response by SFC Michael Arabian made Sep 21 at 2018 10:46 AM

SFC Michael Arabian — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:46:04 -0400

My wife receive many awards for HER service with my units Family Support Group/ Family Readiness Groups, this was work that she did and they decided to give her something to acknowledge her work

Response by SFC Matt Lowe made Sep 21 at 2018 11:19 AM

SFC Matt Lowe — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:19:05 -0400

Recognition for individual service with unit family support groups is fine with me. I assume we’re not talking CIB or a silver star here.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 12:01 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:01:11 -0400

If they do something that entitles them to legit competing for some kinda existing award...sure...there are already volunteer awards, etc. An award for existing? No.

Response by SPC Allen Charlton made Sep 21 at 2018 12:03 PM

SPC Allen Charlton — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:03:06 -0400

Hell no. My exwife cheated numerous time while I was deployed. The only award she got was divorce papers.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 12:03 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:03:11 -0400

Plus, it’s your job to recognize your spouse for working hard keeping the home fires burning. Don’t sludf off that responsobility to the Military who barely cares about you...much less your spouse.

Response by SGT Marc Riordan made Sep 21 at 2018 12:18 PM

SGT Marc Riordan — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:18:30 -0400

Dependa participation trophy? Nah, that’s what the BAH is for.

Response by Shawna Poe made Sep 21 at 2018 12:22 PM

Shawna Poe — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:22:30 -0400

As a spouse I say only if they have done something above just staying faithful. The ones who go above and beyond by helping other spouses (such as new spouses) or other things that help the unit. I didn't have time to do anything other then keep my house and son straight. So I didn't deserve recognition from anyone other then my spouse.

Response by PFC Sam Riley made Sep 21 at 2018 1:00 PM

PFC Sam Riley — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:00:25 -0400

It's a thankless, lonely job in awful conditions (when spouse is deployed). These people that stay home and manage every single detail of the family life have to be the loving spouse, parent, executer and transporter. What's a little recognition gonna hurt? Especially if it improves moral or the marriage. Only good can come from recognition.

Response by SPC Vincenzo Minano made Sep 21 at 2018 1:05 PM

SPC Vincenzo Minano — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:05:12 -0400

Wow! Sad. Do these people now a days need a trophy or certificate THAT freaking bad to show what they've done? For what every other spouse has done in history? Get the fuck over yourselves! You ain't special

Response by SSgt Maurice Tipton made Sep 21 at 2018 1:15 PM

SSgt Maurice Tipton — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:15:31 -0400

When I was on active duty Everytime I re-enlisted my wife received a certificate of appreciation for her unwavering support

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 1:19 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:19:53 -0400

Absolutely, when we are good who holds down the fort, your spouse that’s who. Often times being left behind is harder then deploying.

Response by PFC Stephanie Klinker-Jones made Sep 21 at 2018 1:32 PM

PFC Stephanie Klinker-Jones — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:32:48 -0400

Former soldier, and now a spouse of a soldier for almost 18 years. My answer??? NO WAY. I have my awards stored away, in case my son's ever want to look. My husband has his "brag books" off all his awards and certificates over the years. I was never more annoyed than when the Army gave me a certificate of appreciation when my husband re-enlisted. It's buried in a box somewhere. My husband pulls it out from time to time, just because he knows it's not worth either the paper it's on, nor the green folder it's in. Expecting an award, for being the spouse of a deployed soldier, is pointless. Spouses have been doing this since the inception of our country, and have neither expected, nor desired, an award for being there for their spouse.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 1:35 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:35:03 -0400

I absolutely agree. My wife has gone through so much and it's only been 5 going on 6 months in. They sacrifice for us, as we sacrifice for our nation. They deserve recognition and reward for being the rock we need to help us move forward.

Response by SGT Michael Oconnor made Sep 21 at 2018 1:40 PM

SGT Michael Oconnor — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:40:58 -0400

Hell yeah. Served 6 years. And guess what that means my did also Period.

Response by SGT Michael Oconnor made Sep 21 at 2018 1:42 PM

SGT Michael Oconnor — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:42:59 -0400

Hell yeah I served 6 years. So that means my wife who stood by my side did also. Period

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Sep 21 at 2018 1:54 PM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:54:02 -0400

Im confused.. so the spouse needs an award for being your spouse?? For don't ng the things a spouse is supposed to do through stressful times? Keeping uour home while you're away.. none of this benefits the unit or any other individual in the unit. What she/he does for the unit should be recognized, but what they do for their spouse is their spousal duty.. no, no award for just being a spouse and not being involved with the unit in helping other families within the unit at the least with peer support..

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 3:25 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:25:19 -0400

Give them awards for doing what the military pays them for on the 1st and 15th of every month...no. How about making them subject to the UCMJ so when the cheat on their spouse and cause chaos to that service member, they can be charged and punished. You should get the good with the bad, not just the good. When you volunteer, you volunteer; if you expect something or do it for kudos, that is not out of the goodness of your heart and does not rate anything. Should I get an award from my wife’s work for setting up parties for special events? I am going to have a talk with her boss about that.

Response by LTJG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 4:08 PM

LTJG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:08:37 -0400

What kind of award? An msm? Absolutely not.
Some sort of non service award? Absolutely.
They help soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen come to work everyday with a clear head. Our success is in part, arguable on how much, but their success.
And likewise, an unsupportive spouse can cause a lot of damage to a unit if they get in the wrong person's head.
They deserve some form of recognition if warranted.

Response by CSM Andrew Perrault made Sep 21 at 2018 4:12 PM

CSM Andrew Perrault — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:12:15 -0400

Some spouses are deserving of an award usually an appreciation letter if they have been involved in the unit activities such as family support group, fund raisers, planning Christmas parties, balls etc....

Response by PO2 Hauke Powers made Sep 21 at 2018 4:17 PM

PO2 Hauke Powers — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:17:04 -0400

My mom, aunt, and several other women family members received Certificates of Appreciation, flowers, stuff like that...as far a REAL award...no. The REAL award was supporting a spouse who served in good times and bad..it used to get my mom so angry when senior officer wives were deferred SPECIAL treatment at dinners, dining in's, holiday parties...one of my friends was a wife of a now-retired master chief...she was called by some officer's wife asking to donate for the annual Christmas fund drive...she asked the officer's wife what SHE was giving...the lady said,,,$30...my friend told her to give $30 in HER name cause she was broke raising two kids on a-then 1st Class pay scale...needless to say the officer wife was NOT amused..

Response by Cpl Crystal Ciezki made Sep 21 at 2018 4:25 PM

Cpl Crystal Ciezki — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:25:01 -0400

Absolutely not. I have been on both sides of the line, as active duty & spouse. There is nothing the military should do as recognition, that is for military members. The spouse group on base, whatever it is called for each service, should handle such things on their own. And of course, you should recognize your own spouse for all of their hard work & dedication to you, your family, and your career.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 4:26 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:26:59 -0400

They should get CIB's

Response by SGT Jonathan Lubecky made Sep 21 at 2018 4:43 PM

SGT Jonathan Lubecky — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:43:24 -0400

So, would my ex wife who moved in with an LTC 2 weeks before I came home, didn’t meet the plane, took a taxi to an empty house. She took the dog and sold my motorcycle. Would she qualify for this award?

Response by LCDR Tim McKenzie made Sep 21 at 2018 5:17 PM

LCDR Tim McKenzie — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 17:17:01 -0400

In the civil war, there was the Purple Heart and the Medal of Honor. All the other awards came later. I don’t believe there should be any awards that unless the recipient was engaged in combat. I don’t believe in administrative medals.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 5:20 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 17:20:33 -0400

When I enlisted they gave my wife a certificate of appreciation and she also got one when I retired.

Response by TSgt Spencer Jurney made Sep 21 at 2018 7:04 PM

TSgt Spencer Jurney — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:04:06 -0400

We tend to forget those we leave behind. They suffer too and many suffer in silence because it's important to put on a strong front for their children. They do deserve to be recognized for their suffering and their dedication.

Response by CW3 Eye Bobojed made Sep 21 at 2018 7:48 PM

CW3 Eye Bobojed — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:48:22 -0400

No as spouses will start counting certificates or whatever like coup sticks. To many military spouses feel entitled as it is. Almost got hit in the post hospital parking lot by one speeding through because she was in a hurry. Hopefully she got caught using her phone and speeding. Just as bad are spouses using the DV parking privileges as their own contrary to many state laws.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2018 11:05 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:05:35 -0400

Sure, idk about other branches but in the Navy we have a unit Omsbudsman. Which is a spouse that has been designated and empowered by the CO to be the PoC for all spouses at the command trying to interact with the unit at any level. The omsbudsman gets them where they need to go for anyone coming or going from the command when we are or arent deployed. So spouses get recognized all the time for contributions to the command in the Navy. I mean they arent gonna get any official military awards or an awards ceremony but a letter of appreciation from the Captain for sure.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 12:03 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 00:03:17 -0400

The general works from sun to sun, but his lady's work is never done.........old Army adage.

Response by SPC Phillip Vossler made Sep 22 at 2018 2:10 AM

SPC Phillip Vossler — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 02:10:54 -0400

No formally recognizing dependas, their damn heads are already big enough as it is.

Response by SPC Rick LaBonte made Sep 22 at 2018 7:02 AM

SPC Rick LaBonte — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 07:02:26 -0400

Something along the lines of a civic award to longtime spouses of NCOs and officers that have been on long deployments or special assignments for sticking by their spouse through it, seen a lot of divorces over time away from family. Special recognition for spouses that organize events for the benefit of the unit or post. Come on guys, it’s no different than a civilian community recognizing an outstanding citizen or a civic group awarding an auxiliary member for time his/her spouse spent on that group’s board! Saying their not military is bullshit! In my time between PV2 and PFC the folks that invited me into their homes on holidays and invited me to tag along to concerts were married, both my teammate and his spouse as a couple mentored me!

Response by PO1 Alan Sparks made Sep 22 at 2018 10:13 AM

PO1 Alan Sparks — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 10:13:46 -0400

Why? They already have Tricare, family housing, exchange, commissary, and Jodie...what more do they need?

Response by CPL Jandj Dietrich made Sep 22 at 2018 11:27 AM

CPL Jandj Dietrich — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:27:00 -0400

It’s amazing seeing the responses from people about spouses getting awards. You say they shouldn’t be entitled to it or that they feel they shouldn’t deserve it. That’s interesting because some of you are that same soldier who complains you didn’t get a high enough end of your award. You think your a damn war hero for leaving basic training. I can tell you as I have been on both sides of the fence. Staying home is harder than deploying. I would gladly go back any day of the week. You are also missing the ponot. It’s not that they should be entitled to an award, but if a spouse does go above and beyond for the unit and the readiness of such; what is so wrong with recognizing that? You think you deserve an award for deploying or doing your job at a unit? Bro you mowed the grass.... good job. Stop feeling like you are better than others because you signed on the line. Some of you have some shitty values.

Response by SSG Mark DeTillion made Sep 22 at 2018 11:41 AM

SSG Mark DeTillion — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:09 -0400

I remember seeing letters of appreciation given to spouses while serving in the Army in the early 80’s. I’ve seen some wives truly distinguish themselves. For them, I would make it a habit. I’ve witnessed command removals for those that distinguish themselves in negative ways. Depends on the dependent. No blanket trophies though. That’s where the horse shit really begins and they feel entitled. I’ve seen arguments for unmarked average parking spaces at the PX. I should have seen a brigade award ceremony for the one I’m thinking of, with an escort to Rein Main.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 12:22 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:22:23 -0400

i’m sorry, i don’t believe in that at all and would not recommend it if i were the soldier..spouses support their husbands through life and death all over the world, there’s nothing that makes military spouses more special and deserving of any award..and the soldiers are the ones who served, took courage and fought in the war not them.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 12:26 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:26:16 -0400

It’s a nice gesture, especially if that spouse led the FRG or helped the unit in some way.

Response by SPC Craig Miller made Sep 22 at 2018 12:49 PM

SPC Craig Miller — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:49:56 -0400

They already receive awards such as BAH, and separation pay.

Response by SGT Tracey Wirth made Sep 22 at 2018 12:51 PM

SGT Tracey Wirth — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:51:19 -0400

I disagree, unless they have done something that benefits the unit. There are far too many spouses who think they served too. They didn't serve unless they signed on the dotted line. They may have sacrificed, but they didn't serve.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 12:57 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:57:08 -0400

Is this including FRG?

Response by PFC Brian Brody made Sep 22 at 2018 2:12 PM

PFC Brian Brody — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:12:21 -0400

I think they play an important role in our lives them have to suffer through the PTSD and give us care if we are injured.

Response by M Katrina Stephens made Sep 22 at 2018 2:18 PM

M Katrina Stephens — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:18:51 -0400

I believe a spouse that goes above the norm to help an entire unit should be recognized. My mother has been in the past. She was a member of the FRO and she personally assisted other wives with the transition from civilian life to military life, before their were classes to help with that. She also made sure that everyone knew about the MMR and what it offers, sometimes that included giving rides for the single sailors without vehicles. She even hosted several parties at our house to make sure every family had a wonderful time. It made the shipmates closer because everyone was included. So yes I believe anyone who can do all that should be recognized.

Response by SGT Mark Rhodes made Sep 22 at 2018 2:28 PM

SGT Mark Rhodes — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:28:15 -0400

I think the ones who truly make a difference while the unit is deployed should be recognized with something. I don’t think an award but a certificate of appreciation would be acceptable. Most single men don’t realize how important a family is to a military person. When you live your spouses and newly born child for 6 months to a year and they are there on post taking care of all our business and other things like spouse support groups. They should be recognized. Unfortunately most of the officers spouses are doing this but in general they are taking care of other officers spouses and not the junior enlisted. So if an NCO or Jr enlisted wife steps up and does some outstanding work for the unit and the moral then what is it going to hurt to recognize that person.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 3:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:04:54 -0400

There are spouses who not only support their own soldier but others as well. Also are often there for other spouses in need or support groups just someone to turn to for answers or direction

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 4:53 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:53:27 -0400

Regardless whether you agree or disagree, it ckearly states in AR 601-280 that if a married service member reenlists then that spouse should receive a certificate of appreciation .

Response by LCpl Ryan Eggers made Sep 22 at 2018 5:17 PM

LCpl Ryan Eggers — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:17:16 -0400

If those wives are active in doing things that support the unit and othe unit members families during deployment, s certificate of appreciation would be appropriate.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 5:25 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:25:31 -0400

I suppose they should get a salute at the gate too huh?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 5:42 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:42:03 -0400

I have seen spouses get an award if they have benefit the organization. When a soldier retires their spouse is also suppose to get certificate of appreciation thanking them.

Response by PO2 Eric Weber made Sep 22 at 2018 6:11 PM

PO2 Eric Weber — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:11:25 -0400

It’s all great until someone who has deployed three times discovers that their spouse has seven spouse deployment awards

Response by SGT David Nicholas made Sep 22 at 2018 6:14 PM

SGT David Nicholas — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:14:44 -0400

So in other words you want to give everyone a participation trophy lol. Aren't we as a society trying to get away from that line of thinking?

Response by TSgt Denise Moody made Sep 22 at 2018 7:16 PM

TSgt Denise Moody — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:16:52 -0400

At the retirement of the military member their spouse and family could receive recognition. Other than that, no. Although the spouse has a lot to deal with they are not members of the military. They aren't any different than any other wife/husband who's spouse has a job that leaves a lot of the day to day handling of the family to them.

Response by Sgt Richard Sprague made Sep 22 at 2018 7:33 PM

Sgt Richard Sprague — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:33:32 -0400

CW2 Kantr, depends what you are indicating by the military. If you are referring to the DOD, no. If you are indicating individual units that is up to them. While I was active duty, Company and Battalion level sized units gave awards to spouses for recognition with their unit crest on the awards. I was discharged from active duty in 1988.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 7:39 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:39:58 -0400

My wife didn't help shit. She made it harder lol

Response by Emily Perrenoud made Sep 22 at 2018 9:20 PM

Emily Perrenoud — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:20:56 -0400

I have too many blanket awards. Between FRG and deployments. Just a simple Thank you is all I need. I don’t want recognition or more paper. Save the trees and ink!

Response by SPC Michael Dillon made Sep 22 at 2018 10:40 PM

SPC Michael Dillon — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 22:40:37 -0400

They already do by shopping tax free.

Response by MAJ Steve Daugherty made Sep 22 at 2018 11:18 PM

MAJ Steve Daugherty — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:18:19 -0400

Not a terrible idea to do within the Unit itself, should not be a military citation. When I graduated from Medical School we gave our wives PHT degrees (pushing hubby through). But a certificate of appreciation of the spouses’ contribution to the morale and effectiveness of the troops would seem to be in order based on recommendations as from my past experience some spouses’ activities at home could be a distraction interfering with a soldiers duty and safety

Response by PFC SusanAnne Luchenta made Sep 23 at 2018 12:44 AM

PFC SusanAnne Luchenta — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 00:44:02 -0400

As a 75B I helped type up awards for the family support group leaders. All of those were spouses.

Response by SGT Christopher J Christian made Sep 23 at 2018 10:11 AM

SGT Christopher J Christian — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:11:49 -0400

I agree, if you a military wife, your married to the branch too. Military wife’s sacrifice a lot.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2018 10:15 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:15:05 -0400

In all honesty, this just seems silly to me. Sure, if they want to get involved with the organization as a whole, why not? There are plenty of places a spouse can get involved to deserve such recognition (FRG, MWR, etc.) when my dad was in, my mom and I volunteered hours to FRG and I was presented an award for youth volutenteer of the year by General Lyons in Fort Shafter. My mom on the other hand, as the leader of FRG, was given handshakes and appreciation. She worked her ass off, organizing events and what not. But, she was fine with what little was given to her. I was ecstatic, and happy to help when I could. Now, does a spouse/dependent deserve and award for waiting? Absolutely not. While I understand why this would be proposed, realistically speaking, this is overall just not feasible. Sure, it can be tough waiting for a S/O to come home from deployment, or dealing with the long hours of separation, because it does/can put a strain on relationships, but that’s part of the lifestyle. I don’t think it really presents a true feeling of accomplishment other than a piece of paper someone sticks in their desk and forgets about. Award those who deserve it, because participation trophies are meaningless.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2018 10:25 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:25:01 -0400

My wife received a Certificate of Appreciation as part of my reenlistment when I PCS'ed from Bragg. That I think is ok but a full award with ceremony is a no go. I think she deserved it because she had our daughter by C-Section while I was deployed(my emergency leave was cancelled so I could not be there till the end of deployment(5 months). There are spouse who have received the Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal (MOVSM). That is earned through hard work not given as a recognition for been a great spouse.

Response by Cpl Leon Daniels made Sep 23 at 2018 2:32 PM

Cpl Leon Daniels — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 14:32:31 -0400

Mabey a letter of appreciation. MAXIMUM to all.

Response by SGT Dave Nelson made Sep 23 at 2018 3:52 PM

SGT Dave Nelson — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:52:36 -0400

No. That is the most ridiculous idea ever. The awards system is already bogged down with ineptitude and favouritism without adding the “everyone should get a trophy” awards to it. It’s just one more thing to argue about at FRG meetings.

How easily folks forget what “Self-less Service” actually means.

Response by SSG John Jennett made Sep 23 at 2018 7:31 PM

SSG John Jennett — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:31:33 -0400

My wife worked a lot with other spouses and led the FRG during my first deployment. I myself was an E5 at the time so you can understand how unusual it was. She organized a group of wives to get foster care licenses so when stuff went bad the kids had someplace to go without being put in the system. Our unit was Artillery and Battalion awarded her The Molly Pitcher at our St. Barbara's Ball.

Response by SPC Russell T. Andrews made Sep 23 at 2018 9:24 PM

SPC Russell T. Andrews — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:24:36 -0400

And mom gets an award,then dad gets an award , don't forget sister gets an award then each of the soldiers kids get an award,and grandma and grandpa get an award ,and then there's that first grade teacher that we all remember and love sooooo much,gets an award ect.ect.ect. get my drift.

Response by CW4 Scott Hyde made Sep 24 at 2018 1:57 AM

CW4 Scott Hyde — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 01:57:13 -0400

Happens all the time. What is the problem? Professional organizations also have spouse awards.

Response by SSgt Christopher Mortell made Sep 24 at 2018 1:57 PM

SSgt Christopher Mortell — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:57:08 -0400

Spouses get certificates all the time. I don’t think they should get one just for being a spouse, but if they make some kind of contribution to the larger military community, why not recognize them?

Response by CPO Clifford Henry made Sep 24 at 2018 2:22 PM

CPO Clifford Henry — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:22:52 -0400

I’ll never understand how single people manage to succeed in the service without a spouse supporting and guiding their careers.

Response by SGT James Mann made Sep 24 at 2018 5:42 PM

SGT James Mann — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 17:42:26 -0400

So you mean that while the soldiers are deployed, the spouses stay home and do what spouses normally do? That’s awesome. Just imagine if there were civilians who had jobs that took them away for days, weeks or even months at a time, their spouses wouldn’t know what to do. It’s so good that spouses of soldiers, seamen, marines and airmen receive such specialized training to cope with running a household when their significant other is away on deployments, tdy’s or other duties. Of course they should get an award.
This award is given for not burning your house down, killing a kid, leaving your spouse while they’re in a war zone, putting your spouse in debt while they’re in a war zone, sleeping with half the base and/or outside community while they’re in a war zone. Actually we don’t care if you did any of that, your spouse is back so here’s an award anyways because someone thinks you deserve it. Sir/Ma’am, what rank would you like to appear on your award? Is that enough sarcasm for whoever thinks this is a good idea?

Response by Anne Ship made Sep 24 at 2018 6:19 PM

Anne Ship — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:19:33 -0400

I was a military daughter and now am a girlfriend to a Marine. When my father retired from the Navy my mother, sister, and I got certificates from the Navy thanking us for supporting our father through his military journey. I thought that the gesture was very nice at his retirement ceremony and it was nice to get the recognition that when my dad was deployed we weren’t the same family. When he was gone it was very difficult and being a part of a military family is very hard. Missed birthdays, anniversaries, you’re basically a single spouse when they are deployed and that does need to be recognized and appreciated. Your spouses and kids go through hell when you’re gone and I’m sure you miss them as well. It’s difficult on everyone so I think they should be honored.

Response by PO1 Michael Bruner made Sep 24 at 2018 6:40 PM

PO1 Michael Bruner — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:40:42 -0400

ABSOLUTLEY NOT. That's just as stupid as allowing the ex-spouses of retired military personnel to be entitled to half their retirement.

Response by PV2 Chris Jackson made Sep 24 at 2018 9:18 PM

PV2 Chris Jackson — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:18:30 -0400

Not in my opinion, granted I knew a lot of spouses who put in lots of time and effort organizing cook outs and such for my battalion, the bc honored them for their efforts to help unit morale

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2018 4:56 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:56:48 -0400

So, having access to services, BAH, free healthcare, housing and numerous other benefits isn't reward enough? Your "entitled" spouse can receive recognition in the form of your own appreciation.
It seems ridiculous to suggest wasting company and soldier time to present an award for every spouse who equally knows of the drawbacks of being a military spouse.

Response by PO3 Jami Pereira made Oct 1 at 2018 6:19 AM

PO3 Jami Pereira — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:19:29 -0400

No. If there are organizations on the bases for spouses maybe do something that way for the husbands or wives that maybe go above and beyond but the military itself is for actual military personnel.

Response by Lt Col Gary Uzzel made Oct 3 at 2018 7:38 AM

Lt Col Gary Uzzel — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:38:16 -0400

I once worked for a Wing Commander who, upon his first meeting with the Officer Spouses Club, noticed the wives were sitting according to their husband's rank; with the higher ranks sitting closer to the front of the room. He asked the younger wives to sit closer and was quickly told by one of the higher ranking officer's wife that they sit according to "their" rank. This Wing Commander said to the wives, "let me be clear, YOU don't have any rank; your spouse is the military member and they have rank. In this room everyone is equal". He wasn't very popular with the older wives, but he sure was respected by the younger ones.

Response by LTC Michael Keenan made Oct 5 at 2018 12:13 PM

LTC Michael Keenan — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:13:03 -0400

I think issuing an award to a spouse depends on what that spouse has done for the unit. As an example, in 1995 my unit, the 4157th USARF School, moved into its new building. We had a dedication ceremony scheduled. Our commandant asked my wife Monica to head up the reception to be held after the ceremony. The officers of my unit would pay for the food. Monica prepared finger sandwiches, cookies, sliced fruits and veggies, and had chips, dip, ice, and soft drinks, as well as cups, plates, and napkins. Monica, our two daughters, and a fine group of our NCOs whipped everything into place and set up the food and drinks. We fed more than 150 people. Monica received a nice plaque and letter of thanks from the CG of the 95th Division. She did what she did not to get an award, but because that is how she operated as a military spouse during my 29 year career.

Response by SFC Felix Latorre made Oct 10 at 2018 8:08 AM

SFC Felix Latorre — Wed, 10 Oct 2018 08:08:58 -0400

I'm totally agree with CW2 Kantor. When we are on mission our spouse have them as well. They have to take care of eveeything on the house including but not limited to children, and other household not mention their job. I think when the household is desined for two and managed by two when one of them missing, all the household control mismatch. This is IMO.

Response by LTC John Bush made Oct 15 at 2018 3:25 PM

LTC John Bush — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:25:39 -0400

My wife got a certificate on retirement and through my 40 active and civilian years with the army. Wives and family members have always been an integral part of any deployment, Watch we were soldiers once for a graphic accurate representation. During that time my family was simply ignored and were on their own. The Army really had no plan for families during Vietnam and had not evolved past WWII. This was a stark contrast to how families were involved at Ft Benning during Black Hawk Down and Gulf war One where the family support group system evolved and is still evolving with active command support. With a volunteer Armed force if we do not keep the family we will not keep the service member.

Response by SGT J M Porters made Oct 20 at 2018 9:29 AM

SGT J M Porters — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:29:54 -0400

You are about to open up a can of worms. The highest awards we can give our wives are to love and honor them. But if the truth be known we do not and have not done that. Have you ever heard the statement "let the sleeping dog lie?" It takes a very special person to be a spouse of a servers person. If anything gives them a supplemental pay and it that be it. CW2 Kantor, you will get brownie point but it will cost you a lot more. Have you seen the movie "We are No angles?"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2018 10:44 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:44:13 -0400

Spouses shouldn’t feel entitled, mine sure doesn’t; but they should be recognized if the situation permits it, such as at Retirement. But of course if you are not married you would have no idea what a spouse must go through when their significant other is deployed multiple times or even one time. You can’t know if you’re single. A single Soldier Making a judgement call on this topic is ludicrous. I say sure, she/he deserves some recognition after his/her retirement or deployment.

Response by PO2 Danny Herron made Oct 25 at 2018 2:18 PM

PO2 Danny Herron — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:18:29 -0400

They do receive something, it's called benefits. That's plenty.

Response by PO2 Danny Herron made Oct 25 at 2018 2:21 PM

PO2 Danny Herron — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:21:05 -0400

They do get recognized, it's called benefits. If anything on avg, spouses cause more problems than anything else. They didn't join. If they want military awards, sign up.

Response by LTC Dan McDonald made Oct 30 at 2018 8:58 AM

LTC Dan McDonald — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:58:38 -0400

Amazing how radically some the comments are. I spent 36 years on active duty. My wife spent those 36 years right next to me. She looked after the families of my soldiers. She participated in numerous volunteer activities to improve the qualify of life of soldiers and lead family support groups when I was in command. During the 1st Gulf War she provided a safe haven for the families of all my soldiers and went out of her way to ensure that each of them bore the strain of an 8 month deployment without undue suffering. Our army is unique in that our spouses generally go out of their way to take care of the families of our soldiers. It concerns me that there are soldiers, especially non-commissioned officers who don't recognize the vital role our spouses play in mission accomplishment. Its not all coffees and tea parties folks. Without the dedication of our family support organizations, led by spouses, our soldiers would be trying to solve problems from thousands of miles away that are now being addressed and solved by spouses. Recognition, damned right. Gratitude for a job well done and contributing to mission accomplishment, most definitely.

Response by SPC Craig Miller made Oct 30 at 2018 10:16 AM

SPC Craig Miller — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:16:12 -0400

Hahahahahahahaha

Response by CPL Justin Currey made Nov 2 at 2018 12:01 PM

CPL Justin Currey — Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:01:24 -0400

I see to many variables to make a broad decision like that. How about cheating spouses? Should they rewarded? That's just one of the variables. Oh, just read the last part. Why would he have to be further rewarded? They already get benefits and recognition from the unit with certificates of appreciation. If your unit is not doing that, you might want to run it up the chain instead of using a social media platform for opinions outside of your unit. If you reference such opinions, your leadership might take offense to that. Just saying.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2018 12:07 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:07:07 -0400

I think spouses who do things for the unit especially when soldiers are deployed should get a civilian award like citizens award but no i do not think they should get a military award.

Response by Sgt Jude Eschete made Nov 3 at 2018 4:41 PM

Sgt Jude Eschete — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 16:41:55 -0400

No, when I deployed my wife's reward was knowing I was alive and well, tax-exemptions on our pay, the savings we got from me being out there, and the leave I saved for us to do things together when I got back. I appreciate everything my wife did while I was deployed, but she hated all the dog an pony show stuff just as much as I did and we don't need to encourage the whole "I served because my spouse served" mentality that more than a few spouses take overboard.

Response by SGT Ernest Huerta made Nov 6 at 2018 10:33 AM

SGT Ernest Huerta — Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:33:07 -0500

Isn't the honor of being the spouse of a service member in the Armed Forces enough?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2018 10:04 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Nov 2018 22:04:58 -0500

I disagree with participation awards; HOWEVER, if a civilian family member make a contribution worthy of recognition, then by all means YES. An appropriate award should be presented.

I also support the dying tradition of presenting a certificate to the spouse for events like the military member's retirement (DA 3891), reenlistment (DA 5612), and more. Family members who volunteer for things like the Family Readiness Group should also get the recognition they deserve for all the work they do. At the very least, a unit commander should be able to create a local certificate to present the family member during a unit formation or during a event (dinning out, holiday party, family day, etc.)

Noticed I said family member and not just spouse. I have seen parents and siblings do incredible things for the troops. And if we can give an award/certificate to a local businessman or politician for "supporting the troops"; what is wrong with providing the appropriate honor to a family member who has gone "above and beyond" to support us?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2018 11:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:34:19 -0500

Sir - since you are in the Army, please review AR 672–20 and DA PAM 672–20. The Army already has awards for such individuals (civilians not employed by the Army or Army contractors) when deserving. Members of the general public making significant contributions worthy of recognition may be awarded public service medals, lapel pins, and certificates (i.e. DA 5231, DA 5652, DA 7012, DA 7013, DA 7016, DA 7402) as appropriate.

AR 672–20, Incentive Awards (RAR, 1 April 2014), Chap 9 Public Service Awards
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/r672_20.pdf

DA PAM 672–20, Incentive Awards Handbook (1 July 1993)
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/p672_20.pdf

r672_20.pdf

Response by SFC Mamerto Perez made Nov 12 at 2018 7:36 AM

SFC Mamerto Perez — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:36:58 -0500

I think, they should but a not with a Medal or Ribbon. They can be given an Certificate or something of that.

Response by LCpl Stephen Sharp made Nov 14 at 2018 2:53 AM

LCpl Stephen Sharp — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:53:03 -0500

YES!!!!!! -- NUFF SAID

Response by LCpl Stephen Sharp made Nov 14 at 2018 2:53 AM

LCpl Stephen Sharp — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:53:33 -0500

YES!!!!!! __ NUFF SAID

Response by PO2 Michael Margrave made Nov 14 at 2018 11:39 AM

PO2 Michael Margrave — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:39:50 -0500

Yes they should. My daughter stayed busy with activities around the base while her husband was deployed (4 times). She actually has more honors and framed certificates than he does. So DO NOT say that the spouses are not important.

Response by CPO Dennis Conley made Nov 14 at 2018 1:36 PM

CPO Dennis Conley — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:36:11 -0500

my wife was the Ombudsman for my last unit. She received many cudos during my time in the unit and a sincere letter from the Commanding Officer of the unit plus many other heart felt comments. She said that was more than enough.

Response by PO3 Michael James made Nov 14 at 2018 2:00 PM

PO3 Michael James — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:00:09 -0500

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Nov 14 at 2018 5:05 PM

PVT Mark Zehner — Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:05:14 -0500

No not for just being a spouse

Response by Mike Sanchez made Nov 22 at 2018 12:05 AM

Mike Sanchez — Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:05:32 -0500

Such a process of awarding any worthy, contributing civilian already exists. If the impact or achievement is worth award, then make it so. Having a award or ceremony for such a thing as keeping home fires burning...well I'd have to say "nay" for that.

Response by TSgt Barry Simmonds made Nov 22 at 2018 6:01 AM

TSgt Barry Simmonds — Thu, 22 Nov 2018 06:01:54 -0500

And let me guess, you’ve been divorced multiple times ...... My wife patiently took care of the kids while did my training courses, went off to schools, and also took college classes so we could do better in the future. She supported me through deployments and all the other military “stuff” that gets in the way of raising a family. It’s nice to recognize spouses when the service member retires. But also recognizing them (perhaps in a group setting) after deployments or maybe at the 4, 6, 10, and 15 year mark is something to consider.

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made Nov 23 at 2018 12:44 AM

MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan — Fri, 23 Nov 2018 00:44:23 -0500

Not sure what happens at retirements today, but when I retired my wife was recognized with a certificate signed by the President; while she did appreciate the gesture, it has never been displayed due to the signature that is on it. Spouses constantly face job changes, loneliness due to possibly not knowing anyone when transferred to a new unit, and the many unknowns concerning deployments and short notice TDY. Theirs is a tough job, and recognition is definitely warranted.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 26 at 2018 3:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:17:49 -0500

Not to sound disrespectful, but commands can't/won't give their own Soldiers their just due, so what would be the purpose of giving a spouse that didn't join the service an award?
There is no denying that across the board service members as a whole do not get the recognition they deserve even though it is constantly said that in order to be promoted you must set yourself apart from your peers. How disrespectful would that be to a young service member to actually be deployed to receive a blanket award just to find out their spouse received the same thing without doing anything except volunteering for FRG or a unit function?

Response by PO2 Lon Hebert made Nov 28 at 2018 10:57 AM

PO2 Lon Hebert — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:57:43 -0500

my wife did the command retirement with me they awarded her an award 1993.

Response by Kimberly Brooks made Nov 30 at 2018 11:46 PM

Kimberly Brooks — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:46:15 -0500

No they should not. When you serve a career in the military and retire she will get a spouse appreciation certificate signed by the current president at the time. This is from a spouse of a soldier who did 25.

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Dec 1 at 2018 3:11 AM

SGT Donald Croswhite — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 03:11:49 -0500

Yeah, it's called BAH.

Response by LTC James McElreath made Dec 9 at 2018 2:00 AM

LTC James McElreath — Sun, 09 Dec 2018 02:00:28 -0500

CW2 Jonathan K.,
Maybe they should receive 5yr,10yr, etc like corporations give their deserving employees for yrs of service rendered. It goes back to the awards issue: it cost very little money to appreciate a person. I am sure they do not think they matter to the military. As a matter of fact when I was enlisted my PSG advised his platoon that: " if the Army had wanted you to have a wife they would had issued you one"! Now this was many years ago and the Army has come a long way since then!

Response by Terri Mertz made Dec 9 at 2018 10:27 AM

Terri Mertz — Sun, 09 Dec 2018 10:27:12 -0500

My mother thought she should...

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Dec 17 at 2018 9:34 AM

SGT Jim Ramge, MBA — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:34:43 -0500

They are honored upon retirement with a certificate...

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made Dec 19 at 2018 6:00 AM

SFC Mark Klaers — Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:00:44 -0500

God dammit, people! It's a piece of paper and a few minutes of your time! It's hard enough on what they get paid...if a little recognition is too much of an inconvenience, maybe leadership isn't for you! A well functioning unit isn't just in the field, it's throughout the organization, on and off post. These spouses are patriotic and WANT to contribute and belong to unit, too! Let them, in whatever way they can! You'll be much better off for it. Take my word for it, I know.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2018 9:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:02:08 -0500

Historians believe it began in late Roman times when assassinations were common. A citizen who wanted to see a public official had to approach with his right hand raised to show that he did not hold a weapon. Knights in armor raised visors with the right hand when meeting a comrade.

This practice gradually became a way of showing respect and, in early American history, sometimes involved removing the hat. By 1820, the motion was modified to touching the hat, and since then it has become the Hand Salute used today.

In British history, in the early 1800s, the Coldstream Guards amended the British military salute custom of tipping the hat. They were instructed to clap their hands to their hats and bow as they pass by. This was quickly adopted by other Regiments as wear and tear on the hats by constant removal and replacing was a matter of great concern. By the mid 19th Century, the salute had evolved further with the open hand, palm to the front, and this has remained the case since then.

Most historians believe, however, that the U.S. Military salute was influenced more by the British Navy. The Naval salute differs from the "Open Hand" British Army Salute in that the palm of the hand faces down towards the shoulder. This dates back to the days of sailing ships when tar and pitch were used to seal the timber from seawater. To protect their hands, officers wore white gloves, and it was considered most undignified to present a dirty palm in the salute, so the hand was turned through 90 degrees.

When to Salute
The salute is a courteous exchange of greetings, with the junior member always saluting first. When returning or rendering an individual salute, the head and eyes are turned toward the Colors or person saluted. When in ranks, the position of attention is maintained unless otherwise directed. Salute from enlisted to enlisted are presenting to the president of the Soldier/Promotion board, or back in the '80s and back during payday to the pay officer(usually an NCO).

Military personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled (by grade) to a salute except when it is inappropriate or impractical (in public conveyances such as planes and buses, in public places such as inside theaters or shopping malls, or when driving a vehicle). Other impractical places within military working places are FTX, flight lines, and combat zones. I was active for 12 years enlisted and now a reservist SNCO and if i stop by my unit in civilians and recognize one officer i simply salute, nothing wrong with it. HAND SALUTE IS SIMPLY COURTESY.

Response by SSG Samuel Kermon made Dec 30 at 2018 8:00 AM

SSG Samuel Kermon — Sun, 30 Dec 2018 08:00:54 -0500

Absolutely. The spouse stays at home and fights the battles on the home front.

Response by Sgt Phil Quintana made Dec 31 at 2018 7:03 AM

Sgt Phil Quintana — Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:03:18 -0500

Maybe not an official award but a token of appreciation would be nice
. Think about it, if you know she's at home taking care if business, it's one less thing to worry about which allows you to focus on your mission. A good spouse can be good for your career. Now I'm not talking about some formal ceremony, maybe just mailing something to the house. Ya know, a nice form letter of

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 4:22 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Jan 2019 16:22:00 -0500

Any award should be based on merit, not on marriage status.

Response by PFC John Lanni made Jan 5 at 2019 4:33 PM

PFC John Lanni — Sat, 05 Jan 2019 16:33:16 -0500

No, though family should be viewed as a tremendous source of support for our military members and appreciated for the sacrifices. It is just that the military has no legal jurisdiction over civilians. Could an MOS be awarded to a civilian?

Response by SPC Adam Lincoln made Jan 16 at 2019 1:39 PM

SPC Adam Lincoln — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:39:03 -0500

I think maybe a day or ball would be better. Some dependents identity with their spouses rank, last thing they need is more false power. It would be better to have an event to thank them.

Response by LCpl Kenneth Heath made Jan 19 at 2019 2:45 AM

LCpl Kenneth Heath — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 02:45:54 -0500

Military recognition for obeying your wedding vows? Preposterous.
What a candy-assed, politically correct, namby-pamby load of bullshit!

Response by SSG James Dziedzic made Feb 4 at 2019 3:34 PM

SSG James Dziedzic — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:34:25 -0500

I mean, the field artillery has the Molly Pitcher award for spouses. I think thats about where it should stop though.

Response by LCpl Darrell McGraw made Jan 10 at 2023 8:16 PM

LCpl Darrell McGraw — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:16:16 -0500

Indeed