Should there be Woman Veteran License Plates?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:07:00 -0500

Recently, My cousin who is veteran of the Marine Corps sent me a message asking me to sign a petition for the BMV of our state to make woman veteran license plates available. She asked me to pass the information on to other female veterans.
I have mixed feelings about this.
Not too long I came across a story about a female veteran who was put to shame in a parking lot for parking in spot meant for veterans. The assumption of the observer being that since the person parking in this designated spot is female, this person is not a veteran. That assumption was wrong and seems to me to border on sexist. Women have been proudly serving in the military since World War I.
However, on the other side of this argument, our state already offers veteran license plates. Shouldn't that be enough? Why would we feel the need to distinguish between the genders? Isn't everyone who volunteered equally as valuable? As a female I feel like making a separate license plate is promoting sexism.
The other issue I take with veteran license plates in general is security. In today's climate with extremist groups making threats every other day, Does it seems smart to have a license plate telling the world that veteran is in that vehicle? It seems to me, at least, another way of making yourself and your families soft targets.
I would very much like to hear the community's thoughts on these issues

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Feb 2 at 2015 3:22 PM

SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:22:29 -0500

wait, will it say "Female Veteran"? Does that mean we need "Male Veteran" also? As far as a security, issue, I woudl not worry about that, there are approximately 23 Million Veterans in the USA, most are proud and will not refrain from showing it for security reasons, I know I dont and I am in Europe

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2015 3:23 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:23:25 -0500

Sadly I think despite the number of women currently serving, there is still a vast perception that women driving a vehicile sporting military decals or wearing a military shirt, the assumption is that she is wearing her boyfriend or spouse's shirt or driving their car. I was on my way to kickboxing wearing my long sleeved grey Army PT shirt and someone told me thank your husband for his service. I politely said I am no longer married but as a veteran myself I appreciate your support. Their mouth dropped and they walked away. Not even an apology!
So yeah, I'd be all for this.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Feb 2 at 2015 3:26 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:26:54 -0500

Honestly no opinion at all. We have custom license plates for EVERYTHING. At this point, custom plates are just another form of expression, and absolutely no different than a bumper sticker. They confer no special bonus in 95% of cases.

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/vehicles/#plates.asp

"Virginia offers more than 200 special plates that enable people with a common interest to identify or promote themselves or their cause. Many of our special plates represent the military, emergency personnel, fraternal orders and civic or community organizations. However, special plates also represent a variety of other groups such as colleges and universities, conservationists, hobbyists and amateur radio enthusiasts."

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2015 3:33 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:33:35 -0500

FYI, women have been serving (not necessarily legally) since the Revolutionary War, not just since WWI.

Response by SSgt David Love made Feb 2 at 2015 7:55 PM

SSgt David Love — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:55:15 -0500

Most states will only print a plate if they have enough numbers to justify a run of a specific type, military "may" be different, but never hurts to ask.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Feb 2 at 2015 8:01 PM

SGT Jim Z. — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:01:39 -0500

I agree that veteran plates do pose a security risk but active duty plates are even more of a concern. I do not think states need to have distinct license plates for women and veterans we are all veterans. Do I think women veteran get looked at strangely yes but the best way to resolve that is to educate the ignorant.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2015 8:02 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:02:41 -0500

SGT Private RallyPoint Member, for what it's worth I share your opinion that adding a "women" identifier to veteran license plates are counter productive. A veteran is a veteran is a veteran. It doesn't matter what the gender, race or creed anyone is, the only thing that matters is that they honorably served their country. Like what SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA said in his own response, to go down this road is to invite further individualism that is just unnecessary and only serves to divide us instead of uniting us under the single title of veteran. No further adjectives need apply.

As far as security though, I'm not worried about it being publicly displayed that I'm a veteran. As far as I know no veteran has been targeted inside the United States by extremists by virtue of them being a veteran. Even if there were such attacks taking place I don't like the idea of letting extremists dictate how I can and cannot express myself. I'm proud of my service, and I'm not going to let a very "potential" threat prohibit me from displaying my pride.

Response by SFC Cindy Paris made Feb 2 at 2015 8:39 PM

SFC Cindy Paris — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:39:25 -0500

At one of the VA hospitals in Iowa, every time I had an appointment and my husband went along (he is not a veteran) they automatically assumed that he was the veteran. It made me so mad. Thankfully they build satellite clinics and I no longer have to go to the one hospital any more. With all of that said though, I do not feel that I need to be singled out over a male veteran ... just treated the same. So I don't personally feel the need for a special license.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2015 1:21 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 01:21:20 -0500

While women veterans are truly a rare breed, I don't think we need another veterans plate, she can order the same plate that I have on my car....they will probably scoff at such a request.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Feb 3 at 2015 10:20 AM

MSG Floyd Williams — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:20:32 -0500

A veteran is a veteran regardless of gender!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 28 at 2015 5:21 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:21:07 -0400

I absolutely agree with your saying we should not make ourselves and our families soft targets! My son has asked me Why don't have veteran plates on our car? and a couple of times in airports when they announced veterans and active military board first, "Mom why don't you board?" I've told him I don't want to stand out.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made May 1 at 2016 8:29 PM

Capt Tom Brown — Sun, 01 May 2016 20:29:34 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member ran across this threat and thought I would inquire if yr cousin ever got enough signatures and if her state ever issued a 'women veteran' plate?

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Jul 14 at 2017 2:44 PM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:44:48 -0400

I found the misconception also of females We have in our American legion Post, We have NO auxiliary, the women here are all veterans. Three have held the position of Post Commander, another is the Town's Veteran Service Officer and a TSgt, USAF (Ret) . One of the ladies also had received her own purple heart for a bullet wound in a combat zone. One female SSgt US Army ( Ret) was My recruit and joined the post about 10 years back. During Veteran's day or Memorial Day at public ceremonies I introduce them often with mention of their former Military rank and service and make it clear they are veterans

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Jul 14 at 2017 3:13 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:13:09 -0400

I think the existing veterans plates that are available serve well. As for soft target, I may be old and broke but a soft target I ain't. If the extremist's are busy getting a bloody nose and bruised shins with me they'll be leaving someone else alone.
I think it's unfortunate that folks forget about our female veterans but as more serve the crap will fade.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Jul 14 at 2017 3:19 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:19:06 -0400

Perhaps staying low profile is a better idea, SGT Private RallyPoint Member. However, similar license plates are available in the State of Tennessee.

Response by SGT Anna Kleinschmidt made Jul 14 at 2017 6:36 PM

SGT Anna Kleinschmidt — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:36:04 -0400

I was recently blocked in a parking lot because of my Veterans tags and I was rightfully in the handicap parking. First the guy didn't recognize them as handicap tags, then he didn't recognize me as the veteran and accused me of using my husbands tags. The entire time blocking my car from leaving the parking space and threatening to call the police. I told him to call, they were taking entirely too long so I ended up showing him my veterans id that says 100% sc and my dl with the handicap identifier on it and he let me go. He didn't even bother to apologize and my damned ice cream melted! Some people do have a hard time realizing that we are and have been a part of the military for ages and more so now than ever before. I don't mind the idea of a female veteran tag but I wouldn't get one because my husband served also. If I was the only one I would not mind having one.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Jul 14 at 2017 8:17 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:17:23 -0400

You don't want to drive a vehicle with military/veteran stickers/plates in Berkeley or Sta Cruz CA

Response by MSgt Jason McClish made Jul 14 at 2017 8:55 PM

MSgt Jason McClish — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:55:02 -0400

I understand your concerns and you have great points. In my state, there are lots disabled veteran and veteran plates with different medals on them. Nearly every US medal issued in the past 75 years is on the list. There's one for "woman veteran" too. There is not a male option, which I think is odd and like you said, sexist. All of the pose a security concern for sure.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Jul 15 at 2017 5:26 PM

PVT Raymond Lopez — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 17:26:53 -0400

Well someone said to one of my friends "Your mother wears jump boots"! My friend whispered to me "Ray, How does he know about mom?" His dad met her during World War Two when they were special operations She was British and He was an American!!

Response by SSG Sylvette Cana-Reynolds made Feb 26 at 2018 12:25 AM

SSG Sylvette Cana-Reynolds — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:25:17 -0500

I have Women Veteran Plates and am proud to have them. I have them because I don't feel women are recognize enough for being in the military. I feel women have gone thru alot in the military. I have been a Drill Instructor and seen things I didn't want to see. I have seen women go thru many things, they shouldn't have to go thru. I am proud to have serve my country. I have not had any issues while having my plates and they have been on for over a year. I served 1981-1991. We are all entitle to our thoughts. Only 8 States have them. Why is that? We are not recognized enough. I am not afraid of being targeted at all, but thats me.
Sister In Arms

Response by CPL Luis Whetstine made Feb 26 at 2018 12:58 AM

CPL Luis Whetstine — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:58:24 -0500

No disrespect to my fellow female veterans, but I don’t think there needs to be a distinction of female veteran, just as there’s no distinction of male veterans. We are both veterans and there’s no need for distinction. We are equal.

Response by SPC Edward Robinson made Feb 26 at 2018 10:46 AM

SPC Edward Robinson — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:46:59 -0500

I served with both men and women in the Military. There is no need to have separate vehicle plates for the different sexes.

Men and women were not separated during combat. You are a Veteran be proud of it.

Out here in Montana the State does have different plates for all of the Branches of our Military along with the Universities of Montana. You are also allowed to have "Veteran" put on your drivers licenses if you served and were given an Honorable Discharge. All you have to do is show them your DD214.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 26 at 2018 10:50 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:50:11 -0500

I concur with what's wrong with just Vet plates, women have made giant strides and I thought wanted to eliminate sexist lines. I don't worry about loonies because with my PTSD- I stay hypervigilant and somewhat paranoid.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Feb 26 at 2018 1:06 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:06:27 -0500

Problem, not enough applicants. My state discontinued Fraternal Order of Police tags when there were no applicants one year

Response by SPC Brian Mason made Feb 26 at 2018 2:32 PM

SPC Brian Mason — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:32:16 -0500

There's no need for a 'female labeled' one. Veteran applies to both sexes. She should be affected by people who are so ignorant. I have an OIF Veteran on my car along with a Combat Medic license plate frame.
While I have been accused of many things from being one, I have not been 'accosted' by such a willfully ignorant person. Why should female be on it or most things? How about we start putting MALE VETERAN or WHITE MALE or WHITE FEMALE VETERAN on license plates?
We don't. I support ALL branches and of course that includes both sexes. I know the Army only sees one color: GREEN. I am also a CCWP holder and I rarely leave my house without my firearm. I have a bat in my car as well. Should some idiot decide to try something I am prepared. It may be a couple dollars extra for the plate, but a Veteran one will suffice. Regardless there are still barely functioning idiots. We should be able to handle them easily.

Response by SGT Anna Kleinschmidt made Mar 1 at 2018 6:41 PM

SGT Anna Kleinschmidt — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 18:41:46 -0500

I had handicap tags before I qualified for the DV plates. I had broken my back and neck and was rated at 80% and was later increased to 100%. I walk just fine for short distances but to make it through a big lot or store I have to use a walker or in my case a grocery cart to get around.

Response by SFC James Welch made May 10 at 2018 7:33 PM

SFC James Welch — Thu, 10 May 2018 19:33:09 -0400

A Veteran is a Veteran. Male or female doesn’t matter. We don’t need anything that divides us. It would be good to discuss this with your Cousin.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Oct 3 at 2018 1:17 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 13:17:41 -0400

As far as I am concerned the current veterans plates in all fifty states are shared plates by male and female vets.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Oct 3 at 2018 2:31 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 14:31:46 -0400

That's a great point about soft targets of course most vets now a days carry concealed so those terrorists might just bite off more than they can chew if they stop a vehicle with vets plates on them. I consider all vets when I see a plate I wonder if its a gulf war vet or other conflict and I give credit to both genders under the one plate because there are a lot of females serving in the military. In fact a buddy at the local VSO's office said its an all time high number of females enlisted at the present and those numbers seem to be on the uptick. Thanks for serving our country!

Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Oct 3 at 2018 8:11 PM

LTC Jeff Shearer — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:11:18 -0400

SGT,... Ash, I think you have to be careful about the information you put on your vehicle for the world to see. We could have a conversation about that alone for hours, however, ref the male female thing. Do I think they are worthy of their own tag, hell yea I think the are worthy.

but... I would pump the brakes on this for a couple of reasons, we dont have a male army and a female army. I am a big ole fan of the we are a big ole team thing. This is a conversation that I would have any day of the week. I feel strongly about my feelings and they have nothing to do with male or female and have everything to do with we are all on the same team. Ash, I promise my thoughts are not sexist...

Response by Maj John Bell made Oct 3 at 2018 10:19 PM

Maj John Bell — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 22:19:06 -0400

I guess that depends. Does a veteran want to be a veteran who happens to be a woman? Or does that woman want to be a woman, who happens to be a veteran. For that part of a person's life what do they hang their hat on, service or gender?

As far as someone challenging another over a parking space. Offer Name, final rank, MOS and an invitation to apologize or get stuffed.

Response by Sgt John Steinmeier made Oct 4 at 2018 8:37 AM

Sgt John Steinmeier — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 08:37:41 -0400

We have them in our State, I think it is stupid.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 9:46 AM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:46:18 -0400

Many states already have license plates which distinguish between various types of veterans, such as Vietnam Veteran plates, etc. So it wouldn't be out of line to have a Woman Veteran plate as well. None of these plates is meant to say that a certain type of veteran is better than any other. It is just meant to honor that specific type of veteran. A Vietnam Veteran had very different struggles, challenges, and triumphs than a veteran from another war, but that doesn't make one greater or lesser - it's just honoring their specific experience. In the same way, women veterans have different struggles, challenges, and triumphs that non-women veterans have not experienced. It doesn't mean women veterans are better or worse - it just honors their unique experience. Additionally, I think it's very special to honor the HISTORY of women veterans, because many people do not know how involved women have been in the military or for how long, and to have a woman veteran plate is to add to the overall awareness of the woman as a participant in the military. It starts a conversation, inspires curiosity, and can lead to people better understanding the proud history of women in the military. As a woman veteran, people often tell me to thank my husband for his service and don't ask whether or not I served. In conversation with other vets or military, they will speak to my husband primarily as if I do not understand the lingo or subject matter, and I have to kindly remind people that I also served and in fact have the same understanding of lingo and subject matter that my husband has. I like when people ask me if I served, because it feels like I am getting the same acknowledgement that my husband gets all the time despite the fact that we enlisted around the same time, had the same MOS, went to the same A-school, and were stationed in the same place. Our careers were almost identical before I was retired for PTSD, and when he and I discussed our futures in the military we always assumed I would be the 20-year Sailor and that he would probably get out earlier. Both my father and grandfather were in the military, and I followed in my father's footsteps when I chose Navy. My Navy career was so special to me and significant in how I defined myself. As I grieve over my lost career (believe me, I am stilling grieving after more than a year after my retirement date) it is incredibly painful for me when others assume that I was never a part of the military community for which I was so passionate, just because I'm a young woman. It's salt in the wound for me. I would be so proud and honored to have a woman veteran plate, and get to FEEL like a part of a community to which I actually do belong.
Additionally, I don't believe that veteran plates in general are as big a risk as people think. Terrorists are looking to strike fear on a massive scale, and are not very likely to target a vehicle when they could instead target a building. For example, I believe its far more likely for a terrorist group to target a veterans' hospital than one veteran's vehicle. Another point in which I believe strongly is that there is a line between being smart by protecting ourselves and letting the terrorists win by controlling the minute details of our lives. I will not allow the fear of terrorism to dictate what kind of license plate I put on my car. There is a much higher risk in people writing on facebook about their deployment dates, ship schedule, etc. and those are the behaviors that I do not engage in for the sake of limiting the information we provide to our adversaries, but a license plate just doesn't meet that criteria in my opinion.
Overall I think there is little-to-no harm in making Woman Veteran plates available, and no reason not to, and I know that for women like me having a Woman Veteran plate really would be something special for us. Especially for women like me whose careers were taken from them prematurely due to service-related trauma, there is already so much shame and a huge sense of loss and not fitting in. After all, I'm a young woman - what could I possibly be doing in a VA hospital? I feel shame just being there even though I know that I shouldn't. Having things like t-shirts and license plates which validate us is nice and helpful. It makes it all a little less painful.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 9:46 AM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:46:41 -0400

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Oct 19 at 2018 2:18 PM

SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:18:32 -0400

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MAN VETERAN OR A WOMAN VETERAN?

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Oct 22 at 2018 8:39 AM

SFC Jim Ruether — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:39:33 -0400

I remember my drill sergeant many many years ago saying he didn't want to see any discrimination in his training platoon. As far as he was concerned we all may have come into his Army as red, yellow, black and white but that we were all green to him and would be treated that way. I felt the same way about females and felt we were all there to do a job, pay for college, or serve our country and that we were all green. So Vet plates for female vets seems redundant because we are all veterans. God Bless you all for serving our country.

Response by SSgt Carroll Straus made Nov 7 at 2019 11:51 AM

SSgt Carroll Straus — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:51:19 -0500

I don’t think identifying women vets is sexist. Demeaning someone based on gender is sexist. Telling the world you served, despite our few numbers, is pride.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2019 3:11 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:11:17 -0500

NO. The reason we still have sexism, racism, and other isms is because we keep labeling people by those demographics.
Remove the checkboxes for gender, race, age, religion, etc and the issue should go away.
It seems like things are worse than ever these days because we actively separate groups from just being people.
The first "all female" space crew! It implies there is a difference between genders in space programs.
Iraq vets, Kosovo vets, Vietnam vets, were all just vets. Male or female doesnt matter.

Now the people who are pushing for female vet plates will prob jump to the conclusion that I'm a typical white male, blah blah. I dont give a damn what you are, male, female, black, yellow, 46, 21 whatever. Just be a good person and be good at your job.

Response by MAJ Miyoko Bell made Nov 7 at 2019 4:25 PM

MAJ Miyoko Bell — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:25:13 -0500

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Nov 7 at 2019 6:20 PM

MAJ Matthew Arnold — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:20:10 -0500

Thank you for serving in a would full of idiots. My first thought is, a veteran is a veteran is a veteran. However, my second thought is, what is best for you is probably what is best to do. However, I think is should be well debated by you and my sisters and not rushed into. And, I would also be concerned for your safety (unless you're a black belt), but then I am an older guy, they kind that opens doors for a lady.

Response by PV2 Morris Graham made Nov 7 at 2019 6:40 PM

PV2 Morris Graham — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:40:01 -0500

THEY ARE VETS SAME AS MEN.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2019 8:06 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:06:37 -0500

Veteran License Plates have been right ever since, it says "VETERAN", need say no more. Now, here on Guam, there is a "Purple Heart" plate, which is well deserved, and to top it off, the registration is free. A very low cost to the government, for someone that was wounded in battle serving their country.
Even if it said, WOMAN VETERAN or MAN VETERAN, does it really make a deference, not really.
Now if the Veteran license plate ID's the service like here, AF, A, N, MC, NG or R, then to me it does make a deference, "Those slow non ARMY veteran drivers are always in the way of us fast ARMY driver. Lol
And, it doesn't help, when I yell, "Get the Freek Off the Road". Hahahahahahahahaha!

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Nov 8 at 2019 9:30 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:30:40 -0500

I say No. I am not so worried about who know who is in my car I don't have a Veterans plate for being passive. Making the distinction between male and female on the plates Would more likely put you in a position to have to defend yourself because of the spineless folks out there today would see FEMALE VET oh boy easy target then you have to open that can of Whoop A$% up and set them straight. I would pay money to see that and I would jump in on the Vets side, However would rather pay the Money out watching a Female Vet Tell the parking police that she at least had the intestinal fortitude to become a Vet. Unlike the dip stick that challenges her. Thanks for your Service. Be Safe. JMTC

Response by Maj John Bell made Nov 8 at 2019 10:08 AM

Maj John Bell — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:08:10 -0500

My answer is... it depends. Do women veterans want to be treated the same as men veterans, or do they want to be treated differently? If someone puts in an effort to make sure that I know they're different, they shouldn't be surprised or offended when I think of them as different.

Response by Cpl Bernard Bates made Nov 10 at 2019 3:54 PM

Cpl Bernard Bates — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 15:54:12 -0500

That's discrimination. A veteran is a veteran, gender does not matter. Bullets don't care who they hit and everyone bleeds red. It makes a female veteran look like a 2nd class veteran if her license plate has to advertise that she is not as good as the male veterans. Next some people will want medals and ribbons designating females in the Military. I think we are going to far in trying to be politically correct. Semper Fi.

Response by SrA Sheila Holmes made Nov 11 at 2019 9:13 AM

SrA Sheila Holmes — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:13:10 -0500

It should be enough, but it’s not. I am the editor for a new women veterans magazine and we receive so many comments from women veterans being chased out of those spots -even with women veteran plates- that yes, they are needed. The majority of people still think veterans = men, that any time the woman veteran parks there, they think she’s a wife.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2019 1:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:20:47 -0500

Hi SGT!
Man, does that steam me! As someone who has witnessed first hand the irrelevancy of gender regarding veteran status, or who has your back when the going gets tough, I feel strongly that the old days of making a big deal out of a soldier's (or seaman's, or airman's or marine's, etc.) gender are definitely gone, as they should be. If you can do the job and pass the PT requirements GENDER IS A MOOT POINT! I do agree, that a female veteran plate would be sexist because we're all equals here, and to me, a veteran is a veteran is a veteran, regardless of gender! As for putting your status out there for all (incl. terrorists) to see, that's a question we all have to decide individually - I can't say if I'd apply for one...I haven't yet. What's the advantage? Lower annual tag fees?
Warriors Forever! (male AND female!)
-Ed Boles

Response by PV2 Morris Graham made Nov 12 at 2019 4:04 PM

PV2 Morris Graham — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:04:43 -0500

YES......They serve same as us.

Response by SSG Steven Chirco made Nov 12 at 2019 5:34 PM

SSG Steven Chirco — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:34:51 -0500

Since when does gender matter in the military. Especially now, women are on the front lines, going to to ranger school, in command on infantry units, etc. This only serves to prove the point of, we want equality but, plus more. A veteran is a veteran, a warrior is a warrior irregardless of sex. In uniform there is no color, there is no gender, there is only a uniform and a person doing a job.

Response by SFC Terry Wilcox made Nov 12 at 2019 6:06 PM

SFC Terry Wilcox — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:06:16 -0500

Are there MEN or MALE veteran plates?

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2019 9:27 PM

SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:27:11 -0500

I see only two things wrong with one for female veterans. I know some women would not want or have one for fear it might make them more of a target in some ways from some of the crazy people out there. My wife for instance does not have a "nurse" license plate like she could for that reason and the other argument would be where would this all stop? Should there then be Hispanic veteran license plates? What about Irish veteran plates or those for other ethnic groups? I just wonder if "female" veteran plates might not put things on a slippery slope then with nobody knowing where things might not stop.

Response by Col John Madison made Nov 13 at 2019 9:11 AM

Col John Madison — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:11:51 -0500

Yes, your statement about a standard Veteran License plate is sufficient. Imagine this, if they create a license plate addressed for Women, then they'll have to create one for Men...it's only fair, right? Then they'll have to create one for the ambivalent sex, or for those who can't determine their own sex, or for those who want to change their sex...or change it back again because they've changed their mind. Enough of this crap! Just be the Veteran, accept the standard plate and be done with it. I sure don't want to see Vet license plates with every perverted acronym all over them, just be a Veteran and be proud...period. It is sad enough we have to have a pervert pride parade.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 11:23 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:23:25 -0500

only if females are banned from getting a regular veteran license plate....

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 13 at 2019 2:03 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:03:58 -0500

Not a big thing, my license plate holder reflects Navy and Rate (Rank), makes no difference gender. I had the same thing happen to me, a female driving a truck was searching for a parking spot, then after finding one, parked in a Veteran designated spot. No indication of any military affiliation.

Response by SrA John Monette made Nov 13 at 2019 2:41 PM

SrA John Monette — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:41:40 -0500

we have different plates for Veterans of different eras, different units. personally, i would like to see states offer Veterans plate at no extra charge. some do. some don't. if i see a woman get out of a car with Veterans plates, i won't automatically assume she is not the veteran. i don't think she should be singled out just because she is a woman. would we need plates to identify a male Veteran next?

Response by SGT Joy Henry Collette made Nov 15 at 2019 3:44 PM

SGT Joy Henry Collette — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:44:34 -0500

I would be all for a FEMALE Veteran plate. I get the same...thank your husband, boyfriend etc. No one ever thinks I AM the veteran.

Response by SGT Timothy Posemato made Nov 15 at 2019 11:43 PM

SGT Timothy Posemato — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:43:27 -0500

I've never seen a veterans plate for men, all say veteran. Just make it known that the woman is a vet.

Response by SGT Timothy Posemato made Nov 15 at 2019 11:44 PM

SGT Timothy Posemato — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:44:37 -0500

Don't need special plates for women, vets are vets, just let it be known the woman is a Vet

Response by SGT Debra McDonough Travis made Nov 20 at 2019 7:44 AM

SGT Debra McDonough Travis — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 07:44:05 -0500

I would love to see a WAC (women's army Corp) plate.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Nov 21 at 2019 12:10 AM

SPC Byron Skinner — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:10:44 -0500

Sp4 Byron Skinner: Absolutely, just ask United States Senator Tammy Duckworth, “Ladies can Fight Too”

Response by SGT William Pelletier made Nov 23 at 2019 1:06 PM

SGT William Pelletier — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 13:06:13 -0500

When I see vets plates I just think that Ida vet driving I am proud to let it be know that I am a vet and I will stand up for what is right so look out don’t mess with me I will fight back

Response by SPC Latonya Wyatt made Nov 23 at 2019 2:33 PM

SPC Latonya Wyatt — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:33:26 -0500

I live in Dallas, TX and I have a Woman Veteran license plate.

Response by Steve Spear made Nov 25 at 2019 5:54 PM

Steve Spear — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:54:07 -0500

Great point! I worked with "Jane" and people in parking lots would see the vet plates on the car and ask, "Oh, so where did you r husband serve." to which she answered, "In the kitchen, serving dinner to the kids while I was doing support to SOF troops in Afghanistan." (She was a retired SGM). Her response was great, but to the point above, unfortunately too necessary too often.

Response by SSgt Veronica Fraga made Nov 29 at 2019 12:34 PM

SSgt Veronica Fraga — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:34:14 -0500

I got a sticker for my car's rear window that says "Proud Woman Veteran." I think that's enough.

Response by MSgt Michael Cronin made Dec 1 at 2019 11:14 PM

MSgt Michael Cronin — Sun, 01 Dec 2019 23:14:19 -0500

A Veterans Plate is sufficient

Response by SPC Dwight Turner made Dec 2 at 2019 12:40 AM

SPC Dwight Turner — Mon, 02 Dec 2019 00:40:36 -0500

i say they should far back as WW11 women have served along side men !!!! then too i think it might depend on state you live in unless federal government aproves it contact your local drivers facililty they might be able to help or VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER !!! new year thinks will change for veterans health care !!!! bless you and may grace of god be with you!!!!
rock steady !!! let no one tell you women cant do mens work !!! i knew some i learned from !!! i consider them as backbone of military !!!! in my eyes since i was young women i grew up with became valuable in a good way !!!!!

Response by SFC Mike Taylor made Dec 3 at 2019 10:06 PM

SFC Mike Taylor — Tue, 03 Dec 2019 22:06:20 -0500

in the old days when it was mostly men fighting in wars it was a good assumption but now a days when anyone can fight it should not matter, if you are a veteran then you are a veteran

Response by Sgt Anthony Leverington made Dec 7 at 2019 10:56 AM

Sgt Anthony Leverington — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 10:56:05 -0500

A veteran is a veteran is a veteran........male or female, you're still a veteran. When I see a veteran tag, I'm not concerned with the gender of the driver. All I see is a veteran and that should be good enough.

Response by SSG Tom Montgomery made Dec 15 at 2019 3:50 AM

SSG Tom Montgomery — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 03:50:50 -0500

Many states have "Women Veteran" plates. My wife is an army veteran and proud of it. She has a "Women Veteran" plate on her car. She is proud of it as am i.

Response by SSG Terry Cummings made Dec 15 at 2019 8:34 AM

SSG Terry Cummings — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 08:34:19 -0500

never worked with or had a female in my platoon or in combat in VN. 60' s so I cannot comment from those times.i did have ladys in the 90's working office in motor pool. that being said it was then a problem I was had was with the young men wanting to chit chat wanting to help the women when there tasking job fell short .that took time from my job correcting them. I'm all for woeman in Military. I have female military friends and I believe those problems we had in early years have been corrected and a lot of the females out perform some of the males. I've sence 70's believe that every male and female be required to put two years part time or full time in one of our branches of the Military.

Response by SSG Ron Bogard made Dec 15 at 2019 4:58 PM

SSG Ron Bogard — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 16:58:52 -0500

I truly believe that it is a non issue,
Personalize your plate to say what you want it to

Response by Sgt Mona Hemphill-Bellmore made Dec 16 at 2019 1:16 AM

Sgt Mona Hemphill-Bellmore — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:16:59 -0500

I'm content with my USAF Vietnam veteran license plate, don't care if someone thinks it's for my husband (who didn't serve). I proudly use my veteran ID for discounts and have finally gotten in the habit of asking for it at stores, restaurants, hotels, etc. I enjoy the mostly positive feedback and appreciation I receive for serving. I think you expressed your concerns very well and raised some valid reasons for and against having veteran plates. I don't see a reason for differentiating between veteran gender.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Dec 17 at 2019 4:42 AM

SrA Ronald Moore — Tue, 17 Dec 2019 04:42:31 -0500

I have seen Women VeteransLicense plates in My Area,They are due the recognition also like far in the past they went out to the factories to help built Planes to aid many wars

Response by MSgt Jesse Tiede made Dec 20 at 2019 9:51 PM

MSgt Jesse Tiede — Fri, 20 Dec 2019 21:51:20 -0500

Should women have separate veterans' License Plates? No. Women are entitled to every perk, benefit, what have you, that male vets get! But, they are NOT entitled to anything separate! I married a military woman, almost 50 years ago, and we are still together. I have the deepest respect for ANY woman who can shoulder the same load that men are required to do, and, I just laugh when women, most of whom have NEVER served, complain that they want EQUALITY, but their pack is too heavy! And, why do they have to qualify with and carry a rifle, when they work in Admin! My wife was on that "Equal Pay For Equal Work" kick, until I reminded her that with her Clothing Allowance, she actually made MORE money than I did. These women who want to be Snake Eaters, and Combat Troops, et, al, well, OK. Just so long as they qualify under the same standards as men! And, if you say that's NOT FAIR, that women aren't as strong as men, well, that kinda proves they can't be "Equal", now, doesn't it? Having said all that, the women who are running into this kind of prejudicial conduct by "men", well, you should correct that kind of attitude, first thing! It doesn't help any military person to be marginalized, looked down upon, or whatever, even if they are a woman...

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2019 1:05 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:05:23 -0500

Arizona has a women’s veteran plate available.

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made Dec 23 at 2019 1:02 AM

MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 01:02:27 -0500

No...same job, same requirements, same benefits.

Response by SGT Thomas Seward made Dec 23 at 2019 11:17 AM

SGT Thomas Seward — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:17:22 -0500

I’ve thought that there should be a separate plate for years, but then again, my mom was a WAVE in the late 50’s / early 60’s when she met my dad, who was a Marine.
We hold a special place for women veterans and there’s even a Women Veterans Memorial in DC. Would the men that survived the Bataan Death March have survived without the military nurses? Some yes, but for many more, sadly the answer is no.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2019 9:33 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:33:08 -0500

I don't think we need to continue to divide our people by gender or color or what ever. If you are a vetran, then you are a vertran. Why does gender need to play a role? My sister is currently serving of overseas. It's not an issue for her. Sounds more like a personal perception issue to work out on an individual basis.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2019 9:43 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:43:54 -0500

I guess if that defines you. Personally, I don’t have anything military up in my house or on my car. While everyone had a right to their opinion, I’ve never served for recognition.

Response by MAJ Donald Kaufman made Dec 24 at 2019 9:46 PM

MAJ Donald Kaufman — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:46:12 -0500

When everyone is special, no one is special.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Dec 24 at 2019 10:22 PM

SPC Ron Salsbury — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 22:22:49 -0500

For the ignorant, as my Drill Sergeant would say, "Assumption is the mother of all _uck ups!!" I don't know if a women's license plate would make a difference or not; my wife is also a combat veteran, and she is proud to have her plates just say Veteran. In my opinion, any spouse of a service member, especially if they are over sea's, serves our country as well, especially when standing by their loved one as they are away. They all have earned my respect, and I give the same military courtesy they deserve for being a warriors spouse, male or female.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2019 8:19 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 08:19:56 -0500

There already are female veteran plates.
It says “Veteran” that word encompasses all. I wouldn’t want a plate that says “Female veteran” on it because I feel like that is taking away from the word “Veteran.” ALL veterans are one, equally important and respected in my mind. Adding “Female” is just an attempt at attention seeking, and tarnishing the word itself.
As a female soldier, I realize that most outsiders don’t know, or simply assume, that my boyfriend/spouse is the one who serves. I often get comments that lean that way. But honestly.... I don’t care. I like telling them that I am the service member, and sometimes I simply smile and say “Thank you, I’ll let him know.” Because I’m in a hurry and don’t want a conversation with a stranger.
All and all, I understand that the military is predominantly male, and assumptions will lean that way.
Look at it this way... We female service members, get to use the element of surprise!

Also, as a general statement Intended for any female service member who may be butthurt:
Suck it up buttercup! This is the military, your not here to entertain your own pride!

Response by CPL Eric Waters made Dec 25 at 2019 9:09 AM

CPL Eric Waters — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:09:59 -0500

I don't personally use a Veteran's plate. I get enough recognition just wearing my Army hat; I'm good, thanks.

That having been said, I'm kinda with you on this - on the one hand, misogynist jerks gonna misogynist jerk and assume women couldn't possibly be veterans. On the other hand, though, a vet is a vet is a vet - I don't care if you're male, female, nonbinary, or trans, you're part of the fam.

I guess I'm in favor of the idea in the end, though. I don't think it's something that's desperately needed, but there's nothing wrong with having another way to express yourself. Moreover, no matter how much we try to claim otherwise, women are treated differently in the Armed Forces (and everywhere else), and they often don't get the recognition they deserve as veterans.

So why not? Yeah, I'd sign that petition. I don't see how it hurts anyone, and it might make a bunch of people happy while spreading awareness of the incredible contributions women make to the armed forces.

Response by Lt Col Kathleen Porter made Dec 25 at 2019 9:54 AM

Lt Col Kathleen Porter — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:54:37 -0500

Sure,why not,

Response by SFC Michael W. made Dec 25 at 2019 12:05 PM

SFC Michael W. — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 12:05:02 -0500

Arizona has one.

Response by PO3 Van Cox made Dec 25 at 2019 6:50 PM

PO3 Van Cox — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 18:50:49 -0500

yes they served

Response by SP5 Joe Johns made Dec 25 at 2019 7:39 PM

SP5 Joe Johns — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 19:39:22 -0500

I live it Tennessee. I saw one today, said (WA) woman veteran. Hope it comes to your state soon. It's up to the state what kind of license plates they issue. Good luck.

Response by CMSgt Stephen Jack made Dec 25 at 2019 7:50 PM

CMSgt Stephen Jack — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 19:50:03 -0500

A special plate in my opinion is over the top. We want to be seen as equal, then a single veteran plate should be enough. As to being a soft target, I understand your point. However, as a firm believer in the 2A, my DV plate may identify me as a vet, but it is not a soft target!

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2019 8:37 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 20:37:17 -0500

I strongly believe they should have plates recognizing their service. The ladies in uniform sacrifice as much and more at times as any male in service. By "more" I mean the harassment, sexual and otherwise, they go through.

Response by SSgt Ray Bebee made Dec 25 at 2019 9:24 PM

SSgt Ray Bebee — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 21:24:52 -0500

A veteran is a veteran. Male or female. There are many things civilians don't understand about veterans. They learn slow.

Response by SPC Loretta Hettinger made Dec 26 at 2019 7:43 AM

SPC Loretta Hettinger — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 07:43:17 -0500

Just a plain vet plate is enough, like you said too many sexist rant to single out a female, I am a female vet too. Just a little bit goes a long way

Response by MSgt Harold Harris made Dec 26 at 2019 9:58 AM

MSgt Harold Harris — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:58:36 -0500

I understand why Veteran's need to be identified, being a veteran myself and by the way 100% disabled. However identifying someone by their gender seems to me to just add to the sexism that already exist. I served with both sexes and found everyone with whom I served to be professional and they all should be treated as such. What come next, "I want to be identified as a minority veteran with my tag? Let's not go down that road. For me, there is no higher recognition than a acknowledgement that someone served. Their sex, age or race play's no roll in their sacrifice.

Response by MSgt Joseph Holness made Dec 26 at 2019 11:05 AM

MSgt Joseph Holness — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:05:12 -0500

Why??? I mean what's next; Veteran Plates for "people-of-color, lgbts, political parties and religious beliefs"??? In a country like the USA where the propaganda is that "we all are color & gender-blind Americans and Equal" , there sure is an extreme amount of polarization, categorizing and labelling. To those who are not aware of History, 1930s & 1940s Germany did the very same thing and we all should know what happened because of it.

Response by SP5 Catherine Ewing made Dec 26 at 2019 12:47 PM

SP5 Catherine Ewing — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:47:26 -0500

My license plate starts with WV but it is the image of a women in uniform that lets you know that I am a woman veteran. As a remnant of the Vietnam War I am used to unconscionable treatment but, I am finally no longer ashamed of serving my country. So if someone doesn't like my plate they can go screw themselves, enought is enought. :)

Response by SPC Theresa Villanueva made Dec 26 at 2019 1:39 PM

SPC Theresa Villanueva — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:39:42 -0500

I think the plates they have now are fine. Its made for ALL veterans!! We don't need "special" ones. People trying to get all this extra attention is annoying. Who cares if you are a female? Whats wrong with the plates we have now? Too manly?
Please.
Some people just want to feel special

Response by SPC Theresa Villanueva made Dec 26 at 2019 1:43 PM

SPC Theresa Villanueva — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:43:24 -0500

And also.. I did not join the army to get people to appreciate me as a soldier or to get special recognition. When my husband and I go somewhere and he ask about the veteran discount, they always ask him where he served. Doesn't bother me. I have my service time, all the memories, the honor and the benefits.. I'm set

Response by MAJ Mark Steskal made Dec 26 at 2019 2:14 PM

MAJ Mark Steskal — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:14:11 -0500

I agree that addition of another category of vet is unnecessary and perpetuates the idea of inequality, along the lines of affirmative action which encourages lower performance standards. The proud women vets I know would simply dress down anyone who challenged their service.
As for security, I have felt the same until my last plate when I chose not to be intimidated. But I an retired and no longer have children at home, etc. and would welcome the adventure.

Response by PO1 Patrick De Zinna made Dec 26 at 2019 2:25 PM

PO1 Patrick De Zinna — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:25:57 -0500

Female and male Veteran plates would just feed the ongoing sexism and separatism that is currently in play presently.
A Veteran is a Veteran male or female and anyone who thinks otherwise is for a lack of better term a moron and does not know how we as Veterans view one another

Response by SPC Arthur Cartwright made Dec 26 at 2019 6:29 PM

SPC Arthur Cartwright — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:29:42 -0500

I will sport my emblems and stickers on my vehicle , where my VN veteran hat proudly as means to encourage youth of both genders to join me in the brother/sisterhood of the military .i will not worry about the sick making me pay for my honor and pride .

Response by SFC Clifford Brewer made Dec 27 at 2019 9:17 AM

SFC Clifford Brewer — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 09:17:21 -0500

I agree with the writer, why display yourself and family telling the public I am a Veteran, with so many different things going on but on the other side nothing might never happen. I would love to put Veteran plate on my car but a little afraid of me and my being target. I wear the pin and think that is enough.. You have a right to choose how you want to display you as a proud Veteran.
Thank in you for your service...

Response by PO2 Paul Gerg made Dec 27 at 2019 10:15 AM

PO2 Paul Gerg — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:15:17 -0500

Cannot see why not our state has plates for colleges,Fraternal orgs.,Animal and wildlife plates,First responder plates as well as vanity plates. I think our female veterans are much more worthy of having their own plates then some of these!

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 27 at 2019 11:08 AM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:08:01 -0500

I don't think I want a "Man Veteran" plate.

Response by SPC Scott Currens made Dec 27 at 2019 11:34 AM

SPC Scott Currens — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:34:23 -0500

I don't think they should have one for just females. I understand the frustration female veterans deal with, but once they add a female version, how long until we need a transgender veteran, or homosexual veteran. Not saying it will come to that, but with the way of today's climate it won't be long.
I also no the price paid buy Household 6 why there spouse is on deployment, but I have yet to hear them asking for a special license plate.
So maybe we just need to remind those who don't realize there are female veterans, that war is hell on the homefront too.

Response by Sgt Frank Vanacore made Dec 27 at 2019 1:04 PM

Sgt Frank Vanacore — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:04:09 -0500

Personally I don't think so. A veteran is a veteran no matter what sex. As far as being patted on the back for my service, I don't need it. Did my duty, my job, case closed.

Response by SSgt Jim McGuinness made Dec 27 at 2019 1:13 PM

SSgt Jim McGuinness — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:13:11 -0500

A veteran is a veteran. You do not deserve to be singled out specially just because you are a woman. This is what drives division in our military. You want to be treated equal, yet special like most other 3rd wave feminists.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2019 2:03 PM

SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 14:03:03 -0500

A veteran is a veteran they aren't gender or service specific

Response by SGT Ed Matyjasik made Dec 27 at 2019 3:22 PM

SGT Ed Matyjasik — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:22:50 -0500

Be loud and be proud! My vehicle plate has a Purple Heart on it and says Vietnam Veteran Combat Wounded. Not to mention a few Army bumper stickers. If some civilian PUKE dose not like it, too bad they can kiss my butt.

Response by PO2 Paul Gerg made Dec 27 at 2019 3:44 PM

PO2 Paul Gerg — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:44:02 -0500

My Legion Post is named in honor of 2 women who served in WWI. It's the only Post in this state named after women as far as I know. These ladies went to France a year before our soldiers. They were not considered officers nor veterans until many years later. Make the plates and if they wish to have them, fine and if not get the regular or veterans plates. But they should have the option.

Response by SP5 Matthew J. Palazola made Dec 27 at 2019 6:17 PM

SP5 Matthew J. Palazola — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:17:52 -0500

Never be ashamed of your military service! Proudly display any insignia of your service. My licence plates proudly displays "Viet Nam Veteran 18 combat engineer Btn". No one has ever challenged that nor confronted me about that! Always consider situational awareness, on the alert for potential threats. Be prepared to defend yourself and family at all costs. That's why we have a second ammendment.

Response by CPL Matthew Cervantes made Dec 27 at 2019 6:34 PM

CPL Matthew Cervantes — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:34:56 -0500

You're right, it is sexist. However, where your wrong is that women have technically served in military services for far longer than WWI, i.e. Joan of Arc who led French forces against the English. Veteran status ,and subsequently recognition, should be universal and without regard to gender, race, creed, belief, etc. No concern should be given to the misguided beliefs of the ignorant Sergeant.

Response by PO2 Russell Houston made Dec 27 at 2019 7:38 PM

PO2 Russell Houston — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:38:32 -0500

From the day you begin your service it is impressed on us they ARE NOT women, they are soldier or in my case sailors. So how can anyone now say with a straight face they are "women" veterans, I am not and never been referred to as a man veteran.....I'm just a veteran......get a grip people, how can we expect the civilian world to take us serious on equality, when we don't practice what we preach?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2019 9:39 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:39:18 -0500

To my knowledge there are only Veterans, why does it have to be a female, or Native Indian or a male licenses plate?.

Response by TSgt Pat Burke made Dec 27 at 2019 9:53 PM

TSgt Pat Burke — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:53:34 -0500

No need to genderfy plates. She deserves all the rights as any other veteran.

Response by TSgt Pat Burke made Dec 27 at 2019 9:54 PM

TSgt Pat Burke — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:54:36 -0500

Ladies can fight too! The shouldn't have to fight any more for the recognition they deserve.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2019 1:23 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 01:23:56 -0500

I asked my wife about this (she's a veteran) and she laughed. "A veteran is a veteran" is what she said. I'd say enjoy the confusion when you tell them you're the veteran. I know so many women that have served now that it doesn't seem uncommon at all. Adding a women-specific plate doesn't seem like the way to properly spread awareness and it comes off as an attention-grabbing measure.

Response by SSG Michael Langley made Dec 28 at 2019 3:08 AM

SSG Michael Langley — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 03:08:21 -0500

My wife and I are both veterans. My first reaction is to say that women should not have special plates as we were in the same US Army. However, if the perception by the public is that a woman is always the spouse of the veteran, then I have to rethink my initial reaction and say that it should be an OPTION. The problem is not that we think women should be segregated, the problem is public perception needs to change. For those who think that we would then need a "male veteran" plate if we have a plate option for women, we already do. It is called the Veteran Plate, since that is already an automatic gender assumption.

Response by SFC Marty Jones made Dec 28 at 2019 4:22 AM

SFC Marty Jones — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 04:22:54 -0500

Ga does have Women Veteran tags. The issue is really ignorant backwards ass thinking. Just know in many cases you can't fix STUPID. Drive on!!!

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Dec 28 at 2019 8:12 AM

Cpl Vic Burk — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:12:30 -0500

The polite way to handle someone who is disrespectful to a female because they are wearing an military jacket or parking in a Veteran's space is to flash your V. A. ID card and maybe say, "Excuse me (Sir or Maam), I am proud to be a Veteran," and go about your business. In a tactful way you will shame them (whether they want to admit it or not!). Those man enough will apologize, the others, who cares?!

As far as identifying things on your vehicle showing you are a Veteran, show it. I have a USMC EGA and a Marine Veteran sticker on my car. Nobody has ever bothered me and if they do I would simply tell them I have the right to display these stickers the same as they have the right to display whatever group they identify with. But I would also remind them that it is because of the military protecting our consititution and our way of life that they have the right to openly speak their mind. Try that in a communist country like North Korea and they may be shot!

Response by CPL M Miller made Dec 28 at 2019 9:56 AM

CPL M Miller — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:56:46 -0500

The vehicle plates are governed by the state, Not the Feds as many know. My wife and I are retired combat veterans and we have that plate on her vehicle. We live rural. I think the "soft target" issue is mute for the climate in which we live. maybe an issue in a large urban or overseas (Fed controlled Plates) areas.
We like having her recognized as a veteran, for the reasons you mentioned. The pride and recognition SHE receives far out weighs any pitfalls in our opinions. As a matter of fact the plates on our vehicles are EXACTLY the same (same vanity word / numbers), except for the designation of hers being woman vet, and mine being the non gender military plates. We get questioned many times over when our vehicles are parked next to the others, . and many times if I drive her vehicle I may be questioned. It always a fun light hearted conversation AND the opportunity to talk to others educating them that the US currently has 16% of combat veterans being FEMALE. Remember the plate is for the registered OWNER of the car, anyone could be driving it.

Response by SGT Robert Forbes made Dec 28 at 2019 11:57 AM

SGT Robert Forbes — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:57:11 -0500

The plates are for veteran regardless of sex, race, religious affiliation. There is no reason to make a difference. If the person served honorable it should make no difference between the sex, race, religious affiliation, if the person that has on issue with a female vet parking in a spot that is marked from vet only, that is his/hers rights and we have fought for them to have that right. Just move on and ignore that person.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2019 1:30 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:30:01 -0500

I'm with Catherine B. on this one. There are plenty of identifiers for specific types of veterans today. And if this is what will allow a group of people to feel included in the military family then so be it. I understand why some would feel that this may seem like dividing people, but at the same time we need to try and understand it from others point of view. It doesn't change anybofies experience nor does make it seem like their struggles were any better or worse compared to another service members, just helps them to be recognized for what they did. I'm all for plates that say female veterans.

Response by TSgt David Whitmore made Dec 28 at 2019 5:42 PM

TSgt David Whitmore — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:42:19 -0500

Thank for this.
The last I checked, a Veteran is a Veteran. Period.
Granted, as a male, many seem to believe that I shouldn't have the right to share my opinion on things like this. But I do it anyway. It's just one of those Rights we have, and that many of us chose to defend.
I'm sorry that your cousin experienced trouble with this. And, as my brother who was a retired Marine E-7 (now deceased) would have said, "She should tell them to F-Off! It's none of their damned business where she parks, as she knows she belongs there." He could be abrasive at times. As for me, I would have merely told them to stick their thumb where the sun doesn't shine; and turned my back to them. I've done so.

She should remain proud, she's one of the Few.
Thank you both for what you do and have done for this country.

Response by SP6 Howard Young made Dec 28 at 2019 8:01 PM

SP6 Howard Young — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 20:01:32 -0500

is there a military man lis plate? No

Response by Amn Meryl Hickman made Dec 28 at 2019 10:59 PM

Amn Meryl Hickman — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:59:05 -0500

as a female veteran, I am NOT for the female tag however I do have 2 veteran tags and yes I have had it out with a few over parking in Veteran parking and driving my vehicles. I deal with each situation as it arises. I am a proud veteran and will own it. Especially at the VA Hospital when they call me Mr.Hickman! I don't hesitate to let them know that men aren't the only ones who served.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2019 11:00 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:00:48 -0500

There is no need a Vet is a Vet you do not need a gender specific plate to tell you that or others. If there is an issiue educate those who do not understand.

Response by PO2 Sam Tkach made Dec 28 at 2019 11:09 PM

PO2 Sam Tkach — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:09:43 -0500

Yeah, it's cool to have a customized woman veteran license plate. Freedom of speech. It's just you must be careful, where you are driving.

Response by SPC Andrew Murray made Dec 29 at 2019 4:20 AM

SPC Andrew Murray — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 04:20:51 -0500

Women veterans are veterans. No need for an asterisk.

Response by SSG Gerald King made Dec 29 at 2019 8:25 AM

SSG Gerald King — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:25:53 -0500

Arizona has a Women Veterans plate

Response by SSG Gerald King made Dec 29 at 2019 8:27 AM

SSG Gerald King — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:27:20 -0500

Response by TSgt Chuck Mankin made Dec 29 at 2019 10:53 AM

TSgt Chuck Mankin — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:53:17 -0500

Should we also have Black Veteran Plates, Asian Veteran Plates, etc? How about we just be proud to be a Veteran w/out other factors.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Dec 29 at 2019 2:54 PM

SGT Charles Bartell — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:54:44 -0500

The facts are that Women have been severing in the Military. Since the War for Independence.
They dressed as Men cut thier hair and wrapped downs there Brest's so people would not find out.
They were not allowed to enlist untill a round 1915. then as support roles.
Medical for the most part.
As fare as people not thinking that women can be veterans, You and every one elce must remember
SOME PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Response by SSG Franklin Briant made Dec 29 at 2019 4:26 PM

SSG Franklin Briant — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 16:26:32 -0500

In Texas there are women's license plates.

Response by A1C Riley Sanders made Dec 29 at 2019 6:05 PM

A1C Riley Sanders — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:05:42 -0500

I agree, there is already a Veteran License plates available , you may also choose one with your Marine Ribbon on it , then also available are veteran License Frames. You are equal as a veteran Male or Female we are one as Veterans.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2019 6:28 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:28:58 -0500

No.

Response by CPL Gail White made Dec 29 at 2019 6:34 PM

CPL Gail White — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:34:51 -0500

I am a female veteran and VETERAN is the key word. I f there is a question as to who served I can enlighten them into the 21st century

Response by SSG Alan Pelletier made Dec 29 at 2019 6:42 PM

SSG Alan Pelletier — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:42:11 -0500

No
Be a Warrior, be an American soldier, be brave, intelligent, decisive and so forth. What does demographics have to do with the qualities of Soldiering? Grab your Veteran or Purple Heart plate and move on with your life.

Besides, what follows if women get their own plates? African Americans get their own Veteran plates? Samoans, Non-native serving in the Armed Services, soldiers from Palau? Christian Veteran Plates? When do we begin being Americans serving our Nation and not looking for special identity to distinguish "my" service over "our" service?
We all deserve to be proud veterans that did what was asked of us.

Response by A1C Riley Sanders made Dec 29 at 2019 6:55 PM

A1C Riley Sanders — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:55:18 -0500

Hers another good Idea,
Have a decal made for the rear window of your car , nothing big, classy small bottom of glass, ( woman Marine ) with your decal marine logo beside your name.
Hows that PV2 Lisa Wilcox ?

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Dec 29 at 2019 7:27 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:27:23 -0500

Yeah, civilians tend to think women are not veterans. Dummies. Why not give them a livense plate noting their veteran status. They earned it. I can agree to that because, I have been misidentified as not being a veteran myself. I'll smile as I show the non-believer my retired id card, along woth the flying fickle finger of fate! We're all veterans, who serve our country. Let the female vets have a li ense plate too!

Response by SP5 Wilbert Jennings made Dec 29 at 2019 10:16 PM

SP5 Wilbert Jennings — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:16:47 -0500

A vet is a vet regardless of gender but don't see why we couldn't allow the gender designation, some folks do assume the female vert is the wife of a vet. Problem is it may than be a race thing with a race rather then united vet.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2019 11:15 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:15:03 -0500

Texas has them....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2019 11:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:17:55 -0500

This is what my wife has on her car....

Response by Amn John Francis made Dec 30 at 2019 7:55 AM

Amn John Francis — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:55:05 -0500

What about the female Veterans who only wish to be known as a "Veteran", in equality with a male counterpart? If such a designation were to me made/offered, should we have a designation specifically for males(that is, actually indicated ... not assumed), and should the government require the Veterans to be gender-specific, requiring each, their own ... no generics?

If "gender", becomes a central issue, then what about the female Veteran wanting to be recognized as equal, but being thought of, as being in a "special", possibly less worthy group than most Veterans?

I say leave the Veteran plates as they are, but maybe consider a small, rather specific emblem(1/2" or 1/4"), which could be solidly affixed to a plate according to the wishes of the veteran(per DD214) ... this emblem could be attained rank or some other worthwhile military designation(Quarter Master, Cavalry or Drill Sargent), including one of two genders. "Small", should mean recognizable by those in the know, such as other Veterans.

How far is far enough ... how far is too far?

Response by A1C Riley Sanders made Dec 30 at 2019 9:57 AM

A1C Riley Sanders — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:57:29 -0500

Decal lower back window, (Marine colors) ( Women in the Marines ) add your Marine Ribbon just after.
After you do something of this nature send me a photo.

Response by Cpl Thomas Drumm made Dec 30 at 2019 11:27 AM

Cpl Thomas Drumm — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:27:46 -0500

These women served their country. ! They deserve every benefit I get as a veteran !

Response by AN Donald Miller made Dec 30 at 2019 12:13 PM

AN Donald Miller — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:13:52 -0500

One thing used to control the masses is to divide the sexes one against the other while issues we all deal with go unchecked. On this day and age we do need to remain United.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Dec 30 at 2019 2:34 PM

SPC Brian Stephens — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:34:03 -0500

I would be fine with a Female Veteran license plate. But I think we should have gender equality so we should have Male Veteran license plates too. If not then let us all accept that being identified as a veteran of The United States Armed Forces is enough.

Response by Sgt Eugene Knop made Dec 30 at 2019 2:38 PM

Sgt Eugene Knop — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:38:25 -0500

NO.

Response by PO1 Mac MacIntyre made Dec 30 at 2019 7:08 PM

PO1 Mac MacIntyre — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:08:21 -0500

Divide and conquer. A veteran is veteran, period. Putting another division in the ranks does nothing for all veterans as a whole, just strokes some need to be recognized.

Response by A1C Riley Sanders made Dec 31 at 2019 9:55 AM

A1C Riley Sanders — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 09:55:29 -0500

Ok ,SGT Ashley Curnutte,
Trying to get you Lady's a little better respect & Recognition : I feel the Decal in your back window is as close as you will get to what you are after / I do agree the Lady's shouldn't be called Sir & Thank your Husband for his service. So this is my latest Bestest Idea,
Have a Decal made for your Rear Window, Marine Colors respectfully just a size aprox 2" high Stateing ( Women in the Marines ) and just under that your Ribbon with what ever war you were apart of (Afghanistan Veteran ) I'm confident who ever makes your Decal will help wording order.
Best Regards.
A1C Riley Sanders
Retired

Response by SSgt Tamara Holsclaw made Dec 31 at 2019 10:30 AM

SSgt Tamara Holsclaw — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:30:57 -0500

There should not be any difference between male and female veterans, but sadly that is not the case. When I first got to Camp Lejeune, my husband and I would buy from a butcher shop. once when I went by myself the lady asked for my husbands info to put on the check. I told her I was the one writing the check and that was my ID she was looking at. The same thing has happened many times through out the years. The last time was when a clerk behind the counter commented to the other they would have to get new ID's because they were now blue. I calmly corrected them, but I was still incensed. More than 20 years on and in a city where they should have learned better by now, they haven't.
When my son was in third grade he was also taunted with "your mother wears combat boots" his reply was "yeah, so". Skip ahead to High School, I was picking him up after football practice. He was asked "your mom is a Marine?" instead of doing the same as in third grade, he told them his dad was already retired (not quite true), and I was next. He apologized to me, but I understood. He avoided a lot of hassle by doing this. Now, that sons daughter has been given the impression she was not allowed to wear camouflage because "she is a girl". My son set her down and showed her pictures of me and his sister in various Marine Corps and Air Force uniforms. She now knows she is not limited in this way at least.

Response by MSgt James Littlejohn made Dec 31 at 2019 11:20 AM

MSgt James Littlejohn — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:20:16 -0500

Some people want to cause great harm to vets and their families. For that reason, I refuse to grace my vehicles with a special plate. As the person above commented “it makes us a soft target”. After my God, family and country I am extremely proud of my 25+ years of AD. In this day one must be prudent of their surroundings especially when one is in poor heath and is unable to physically defend for their self. That does not mean an elderly disable person needs to hide in their home, it simply means be wise in your decisions. Also, is one “VETERAN” better than another??? I don’t think so!

Response by SGT Randall Patsches made Dec 31 at 2019 11:37 AM

SGT Randall Patsches — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:37:05 -0500

I find it interesting how today's generation complains "Dont label me, dont put me in a box!" all the while demanding to be put in a box! Men, Woman, LGBT on and on!!!!

Response by PO3 Donald Freas made Jan 1 at 2020 5:52 AM

PO3 Donald Freas — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 05:52:58 -0500

I laughed, Got a call from my Mom said you been Drafted into the Army, I said Mom I am in the Navy in Great Lakes IL, The Navy owns my ass. What should I do?....... Tear it up throw it away. She asked will you be going to Viet Nam she asked,......No Idea I am going into Submarines,.....Cried No....and Hung up on me. One of the Smartest move of my life.

Response by Cpl Kathie Shively made Jan 1 at 2020 7:41 AM

Cpl Kathie Shively — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 07:41:44 -0500

I proudly display my Woman Marine Corps Veteran license plate that was issued to me by the state of Georgia. This is a great way to show the world how many women have served and continue to serve this country. I did my service over 40 years ago and I am still very proud that I did.

Response by SPC Bill Ratajczak made Jan 1 at 2020 8:41 AM

SPC Bill Ratajczak — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 08:41:53 -0500

I have worried about the soft target aspect you mentioned. I got my veteran drivers license and stopped there.
On the other side a veteran is a veteran, whether they be black, white, male, female, or polka dotted. To me it smacks of the PC culture of getting a trophy for showing up.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2020 11:46 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 11:46:50 -0500

I have on my license plate a female in uniform saluting, can see she has her hair up in a bun. So, I would say some states may have something like it already.

Response by Sgt Peter Schlesiona made Jan 1 at 2020 1:59 PM

Sgt Peter Schlesiona — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 13:59:24 -0500

I consider this making a mountain out of a molehill. First, the VAST majority of veterans ARE male so why making an erroneous assumption suddenly escalated to being “sexist”? I thought our female veterans had more common sense than that. Second, this comes across as something we would expect from our whiney college “snowflakes”..... looking for something to be offended by under every rock.

Response by SPC Dottie Leisinger made Jan 1 at 2020 2:52 PM

SPC Dottie Leisinger — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 14:52:59 -0500

I would definitely update my veterans plate to a woman veteran plate because I to get the question if its my husband that is the vet!

Response by LT Rosalee Adams made Jan 1 at 2020 8:58 PM

LT Rosalee Adams — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 20:58:51 -0500

I have disabled vet plates issued by my state
(the plates have no tag as they are designated permanent and they are a different color than normal plates)
I have been asked "Who is the veteran?" or "Are you the vet?". Sometimes they just walk past my car and stare at me, sometimes a hard one almost like they may be wondering what I am doing in a car with disabled vet plates.

Response by Cpl Amy Decker made Jan 2 at 2020 9:01 AM

Cpl Amy Decker — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 09:01:29 -0500

As a Marine Corps Veteran, it is almost always assumed that my Marine Corps clothes, flags, license plate etc. are in support of male Marine Corps family members, which are many (Dad, Husband, Brother, Son, etc.). I have taken the step to add a license plate holder clarifying my role as a Woman Veteran. I do this to help educate the public on and promote the idea of women in service. In addition, the funds raised through the sale of the designated license plate could provide support for homeless female veterans. In my hometown of Jax. Fl. with over a million residents, we have NO program to house homeless female veterans. The Five Star Veterans Center receives millions of dollars a year to house homeless veterans, but they serve ‘Male Veterans Only.’ This is unacceptable. Thanks for the conversation.

Response by MSgt Terry Maksim made Jan 2 at 2020 9:51 AM

MSgt Terry Maksim — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 09:51:11 -0500

I look at it like this. I don't give a rats ass if you are a man or women if you are a Veteran then you are Veteran. If we are going to start and break it down into groups then you better to Race, Religion and anything else you can think of. We that served did it for love of country. If you did it to be special, well.

Response by PO1 Ron Clark made Jan 2 at 2020 11:11 AM

PO1 Ron Clark — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:11:05 -0500

To my recollection License plates are gender neutral! SMH!

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Jan 3 at 2020 12:39 PM

CPL Steve Freeman — Fri, 03 Jan 2020 12:39:05 -0500

Why? To distinguish yourself from other vets?

Response by SPC Robert Bobo made Jan 3 at 2020 5:40 PM

SPC Robert Bobo — Fri, 03 Jan 2020 17:40:43 -0500

Adding gender on veteran plates is inappropriate, this will lead to people that are already obsessed with identity politics pushing for other identifiers such as race, sexual preference etc. a veteran is a veteran

Response by TSgt Mary Farrell made Jan 3 at 2020 7:46 PM

TSgt Mary Farrell — Fri, 03 Jan 2020 19:46:08 -0500

I live in Texas and have a plate with a women saluting with the words: Women Veteran. Have a great weekend!

Response by Stephen Bracken made Jan 5 at 2020 2:58 PM

Stephen Bracken — Sun, 05 Jan 2020 14:58:35 -0500

Until women have to pass the same physical standards as the men I would say no.

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Jan 5 at 2020 8:24 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Sun, 05 Jan 2020 20:24:34 -0500

Yes, absolutely. My wife served in much more important positions in her Army career than I did. But she very rarely gets recognized for her military service. People should understand what important military contributions women have made through their service.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2020 11:20 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 05 Jan 2020 23:20:19 -0500

I think it would be a separating factor. To this old soldier, who has been married to a veteran for 59+ years and has a daughter who retired w/30 years service and two granddaughters both still serving each with more than 10 years service are service ties bring us closer.

Response by SFC Nancy Hawk made Jan 6 at 2020 11:01 AM

SFC Nancy Hawk — Mon, 06 Jan 2020 11:01:03 -0500

I don't. The fact is women's army corp was lost for it's time. I was in the Women's Army Corp. I still, even wearing a hat, am not recognized. I think that for unity it should not be neccessary. I also know that it men still have trouble with women in service. Now please do not say , "No I dont. ". It is ok. I went through alot razzing. At the end of the day as long as I could count on my commrades to be there it is ok.

Response by MCPO Bob Wicker made Jan 6 at 2020 2:05 PM

MCPO Bob Wicker — Mon, 06 Jan 2020 14:05:13 -0500

In short, I am personally tired of everyone trying to be exclusive. That's the problem in today's society. Veterans include men and women (and probably a few that are the opposite of their born sex!) Leave it at that.

Response by SFC Ernest Thurston made Jan 6 at 2020 4:09 PM

SFC Ernest Thurston — Mon, 06 Jan 2020 16:09:23 -0500

I can understand how insulting it would be to be called out in a parking lot because some dumb-ass doesn't understand that there are female veterans. But I don't know what it would solve to have female veterans plates. Do you think that would change the mind of the ignorant fool who calls out a female vet? These same people get irate when they see a person with a handicap plate get out of a car and they are not in a wheelchair. It's all about the other person's perception, no matter how wrong it is.

Response by SP5 Robert Dandeneau made Jan 7 at 2020 2:44 PM

SP5 Robert Dandeneau — Tue, 07 Jan 2020 14:44:49 -0500

I think a veteran is a veteran and does not matter male or female.

Response by MSG Suzi Haley made Jan 10 at 2020 2:33 PM

MSG Suzi Haley — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:33:41 -0500

Some states already have them. In Texas, I was able to get one, I was tired of people thanking me for my “husband’s” service, even though I served longer and outranked him. The women veteran plate makes it clear the we women have actually served and are allowed the same respect as any man would get.

Response by SPC Arthur Lowder made Jan 12 at 2020 12:07 AM

SPC Arthur Lowder — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:07:51 -0500

yes,there should be a woman veteran license plates.???

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2020 8:20 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 08:20:31 -0500

No, the Veterans plate covers it. Too late, PC strikes again!

Response by PO2 George Cicotte made Jan 13 at 2020 5:07 PM

PO2 George Cicotte — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:07:59 -0500

It should be enough. Considering the fact that if they're wearing issue PT clothing, if it fits then statistically it's unlikely to be borrowed from a spouse, and if you're not a servicemember (or have a dependent card to buy it for the servicemember), then you're not going to be allowed to buy it at all. That means the accuser simply doesn't know the difference, and can be dismissed as uninformed and rude, not anti-female.

Response by SPC(P) Estus Hibbard made Jan 17 at 2020 2:49 AM

SPC(P) Estus Hibbard — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 02:49:46 -0500

I'm fairly certain that several states already have them, here in KY we certainly do.

Response by Lt Col Valorie Baggenstoss made Jan 17 at 2020 1:03 PM

Lt Col Valorie Baggenstoss — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:03:55 -0500

Not sure if it has already been said, but Texas offers a Women's Veteran plate as an option already.

Response by Lt Col Valorie Baggenstoss made Jan 17 at 2020 1:06 PM

Lt Col Valorie Baggenstoss — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:06:27 -0500

Texas offers a Women's veteran plate as one of its specialty plate options.

Response by CPL Jeffrey Solomon made Jan 20 at 2020 12:11 PM

CPL Jeffrey Solomon — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:11:14 -0500

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2020 9:21 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:21:48 -0500

With all the decades of efforts for women to be fully accepted into most, if not all roles now in most units; why would women want to not be known as a veteran as men are known. Women have earned that right as well as men have.

Response by SPC Lawanda Boddie made Jan 22 at 2020 3:48 AM

SPC Lawanda Boddie — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:48:05 -0500

We still have people who fail to realize that women serve in the military. When they see women in veteran or military clothing they automatically assume that women are the spouses and not the service member or veteran. As a female veteran I get it all of the time. I show my ID card and I’m asked what did my husband serve in? Then I have to keep explaining that I was the soldier. We as women veterans and women in the military just want to stop

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2020 9:30 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:30:27 -0500

veteran license plate with female driver: i would then assume that the driver is a female veteran. No need for a seperate plate

Response by SPC Alexis Taggart made Jan 27 at 2020 2:49 PM

SPC Alexis Taggart — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:49:47 -0500

I do not think their should be any difference in male and female veteran license plates. A veteran is a veteran, don’t matter color or religion etc.

I also would not be a “soft target”. I’m still young, and have a husband whose is also a veteran who always, when being thanked for his service, makes sure he tells them that his wife has served too and we also have a small child. If someone was to target my car because of my plate they would be lucky to live another day. I mean I haven’t really heard of people target veteran cars because of a simple license plate but maybe I’m wrong.

Response by 1SG Frank Rangel made Jan 27 at 2020 3:37 PM

1SG Frank Rangel — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:37:11 -0500

Everything is good, if you wish to have a female image on the veteran plates, pay for it, as for being a target, no worry there, all AMERICANS are already targets. We as just have to continue to be vigil, and keep an eye open for any suspects.

Response by PO3 Shania Hamlin made Jan 27 at 2020 4:29 PM

PO3 Shania Hamlin — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 16:29:35 -0500

In some states (Nevada for sure) there are disabled female veteran plates. I got that after too many run ins with ppl telling me while I’m driving my husband’s car I cannot use the spot. I am the veteran. 100% service connected disabled. No there are not male specific plates because the assumption is already that the veteran is male. Ironically, when my husband drove my truck, no one harassed him. I now have regular disabled vet plates after someone stole the front plate and the dmv handed me plain disabled vet plates.

Response by Capt James R. Lee made Jan 27 at 2020 7:39 PM

Capt James R. Lee — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:39:35 -0500

If there is not a "Male" or "Man's" plate, why should there be a female plate? Ridiculous.

Response by SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez made Jan 27 at 2020 10:27 PM

SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:27:40 -0500

My first question to you is, are you active duty or a veteran? Have you experienced the stigma that women veterans face almost on a daily basis? Many people do not think of women as veterans and if they do they think of them as non-combat, behind a desk, never deployed, etc. Not equal to a male veteran. From restaurants offering veteran discounts to parking spots to buying a home and even in health care. I, as a female veteran, constantly have to prove my military service in ways my husband, as a male veteran, doesn't have to. Even when I wear clothing displaying my service people assume it is my husbands service being displayed. My husband gets a "thank you for your service" everywhere we go but when I say I served too I get a look from head to toe and then an unsure smile with an unsure "thank you too" before the person turns back to my husband. I believe women need to let people know as much as possible that women are veterans too. That women deploy to dangerous areas and experience combat situations right along with the men. Whether it be licence plates, decals, shirts, hats, etc. I don't believe it to be sexist to point it out. It is sexist that there is still a need to point it out. But the only way to end the sexism is to educate people and get the word out there. If people feel there should not be a woman veteran license plates then why have other distinctions like airborne, ranger, MP, etc. People display things because they are proud of their accomplishments. Why should displaying that a female veteran drives this car be any different? And I don't feel displaying that I am veteran makes me a target. I hope that it tells people not to mess with me because I have been trained to defend myself and am not afraid to use my training when needed. My state offers female veteran licence plates and I have one on my car.

Response by SFC Dennis Yancy made Jan 27 at 2020 10:39 PM

SFC Dennis Yancy — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:39:15 -0500

Why? they do not say make veteran just says veteran.

Response by CAPT James McClure made Jan 28 at 2020 1:17 AM

CAPT James McClure — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 01:17:50 -0500

We have them in New Mexico. One of my friends -- one of the Army's first female helicopter pilots -- is proud of hers.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 10:21 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:21:10 -0500

As a female service member, I have many stories where people assumed that it was some family member that served/serves, and not me. I have a tattoo of my first combat patch; if some random person recognizes it while I’m wearing short sleeves, they almost always ask if it’s for my grandfather/uncle/father/husband. They usually look shocked when I say no, it’s for the first time I, myself, served in combat. Because it is so common for people to assume that a woman showing off military paraphernalia is NOT the one who served, I think it’s necessary to distinguish between sexes on a license plate. I think it promotes more balanced perceptions of the sexes in greater society, as opposed to encouraging more sexist perceptions.

That being said, I do think you’re right about not having a veteran license plate at all, from the perspective of potential threats against military members. We have women veterans, as well as Bronze Star, generic veteran, specific branch veteran AND current service, NG and reserve component license plates in my state; each offers a registration discount, and I absolutely refuse to get one. We have a HIGH population of veterans and currently serving military members in my state, but with that comes increased visibility and increased threat risk. I do not wish to make myself a target. I do not have military stickers or a military/veteran license plate, and the only times I travel or go out in a civilian population in uniform is when I’m traveling to or from drill (I’m in the National Guard), or about town during drill. I usually wear sleeves long enough to cover my combat patch tattoo.

There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your service, and even displaying it; I’m just not the kind of person who would invite the attention to myself.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 10:54 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:54:24 -0500

Should there be male Veteran license plates?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 11:25 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:25:07 -0500

Hell, no. You want to know why women have a hard time be treated like an equal? It's because women keep trying to be recognized because of their gender. You want to be recognized? Be competent. If you have to have a billboard to advertise your position because you can't handle the criticism, maybe you aren't the trailblazer you thought you were. Harden the F up.

Response by Cpl Darrin Carnagua made Jan 28 at 2020 5:59 PM

Cpl Darrin Carnagua — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:59:35 -0500

Where's the equality "everyone" says they want if a special version of a special military license plate is made for women. You are a veteran or you are not, you are active duty or you are not, you are part of the military or you are not, you are not special because you are a female or a male.
If you qualify for a military plate count your blessings that you made the cut and can stand proud to call yourself a (name your branch), and realize making the cut is what makes you special. Equal is Equal, no special qualifiers.

Response by 1LT David_u Haddock made Jan 28 at 2020 10:39 PM

1LT David_u Haddock — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:39:53 -0500

Response by SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez made Jan 28 at 2020 11:10 PM

SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:10:12 -0500

The state I live in not only offers women veteran plates but many others as well. https://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates/itemlist/filter?category%5B%5D=61&moduleId=185&Itemid=145

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Response by SFC Robert Walton made Jan 29 at 2020 9:00 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 09:00:54 -0500

I say no it is not needed. The plate says Veteran, personalize it and put women on it or what ever or get a boarder for around it that says Women Veteran. Maybe a bumper sticker. If you open the door with other than a Veteran Plate I think your going to open up a ton of additional plates as well.

I do understand some Military member wanting the plates for parking and the mix-up of the civilian thought process how ever I need to mention we don't even have Veterans parking. The closest is 35 miles from my home, Wal-mart has handy cap/disabled parking and Police parking but no Veteran. Parking still there is a crap load of Veteran License plates here. So mostly I see no need to have a female Veterans plate.

Response by PO3 D Ingrassia made Jan 29 at 2020 10:34 AM

PO3 D Ingrassia — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:34:39 -0500

Up to the states issuing the license.
Veteran is genderless and gendered plates would look silly
Will men be eligible for a gender bet plate?

Response by SGT Edward Smith made Jan 29 at 2020 11:19 AM

SGT Edward Smith — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 11:19:37 -0500

Have mixed feelings we both raised are hand and get to put the uniforms on the same way but to do this could start a different license plate for any thing but I do agree the females of the military do and do not get what they deserve on and off the battlefield

Response by SCPO Frank Waldron made Jan 29 at 2020 1:31 PM

SCPO Frank Waldron — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 13:31:33 -0500

There have been women serving in every war through history and that includes in our country has ever had! In the early wars, they were not official. Many dressed as men, Others served as civilian nurses, spy's, assassins and many other ways that we haven't heard of yet or that may never know. History will never be fully known or understood.

Until recent history, this fact had not been recognized or admitted, and so, most nonmilitary educated people are unaware. It is not their fault. Blame the old belief that a woman can not do whatever. However, ask a "man" that lives with, works with, was raised by or has to have any kind of daily interaction with an assertive nature,(I hate to use that term but, sometimes it is necessary.) and they will tell you that some women can do anything the set their mind to. These women have always found a way to serve.

As far as questioning people using Veteran privileges, I question everyone I see that I do not know and that does not look or act the part. I have seen too many people 'Stealing Valor" in my day! A friend that joined the Navy with me and was kicked out was parading around town in uniform when got home from Boot. I let everyone in town know he was kicked out and things changed for him real quick.

Every time I use a veteran discount, eat a vet free meal or do anything related to a vet activity, I show my retired ID and if they say, "You do not kneed that, you are wearing a VET HAT, PIN or whatever, I say "NO, You must ask for official ID. Anyone can buy a hat, pin... ONLY OFFICIAL IDENTIFICATION! I saw a Medal of Honor and a Silver Star for sale at a swap meet! I told the vendor it was Illegal and he said he got it in a storage auction, is is his to sell if he wants to. The police said it was not in their area of responsibility and I could not reach the FBI on a weekend!

Last thing, I do not display my military service on my vehicle or home. I live in a Sanctuary Town, City and State. Many of the "Americans" are less than what I would consider patriotic and do damage vehicles that have the wrong bumper sticker on them. I would advise that in this climate and sick political attitude in this country today, I feel that it is avoiding inviting unwanted trouble.

Be safe, be happy and be prepared.

Response by SGT Alan Simmons made Jan 29 at 2020 1:42 PM

SGT Alan Simmons — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 13:42:03 -0500

No, I do not think this is wise. A veteran is a veteran no matter gender, race, or religion. If we begin having "female" veteran tags, why stop there? Why not go for "Catholic" or "Protestant" veteran tags. What about the GLB veterans? Should they have a distinctive tag, too?

We all wore the uniform. We are all veterans. No other division in our "family" is needed.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Jan 29 at 2020 4:21 PM

MSgt Wayne Morris — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:21:22 -0500

I think Vet should cover it for all as a "female vet" plate would open it to the "others" serving or vets would want their own special plate too. I understand your point but you know you are the vet and that should be enough. Now you know how gate guards felt when they saluted the colonel sticker on the car when his wife or teenagers were driving it.

Response by SGT Wayne Knowles made Jan 29 at 2020 4:25 PM

SGT Wayne Knowles — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:25:37 -0500

Male or Female is not the issue everyone who put on the uniform is a Veteran period, I am a member of Combat Veterans Motorcycle Assn. WE require your DD214 proves you were boots on the ground in a combat zone. There are some problems with Spec. Ops as there DD214 does not always show where they were deployed. But all veterans no sexual biases for sex, There should never be so.

Response by Amn Chuck Cook made Jan 29 at 2020 5:26 PM

Amn Chuck Cook — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 17:26:33 -0500

I say YES. If a woman served in the military she is a Veteran and has the right to have a license plate that states that fact.

Response by SSgt Andrea Stengel made Jan 29 at 2020 8:28 PM

SSgt Andrea Stengel — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 20:28:56 -0500

As a female veteran, I think the idea is not necessary. As was stated, we already have one for all veterans. Two different plates to me are intimating that we are separate. We are all the same.

Response by SPC Vanessa White made Jan 29 at 2020 9:22 PM

SPC Vanessa White — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:22:40 -0500

I have two vehicles, one a regular DV plate and one a womans dv plate. I don't see an issue with either, it is just showing pride for everyone who has served. No big issue, be proud and represent!!

Response by SGT Kate Dowling made Jan 29 at 2020 9:34 PM

SGT Kate Dowling — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:34:09 -0500

I think a license plate for Veterans is sufficient.. We as Veterans recognize that a soldier is a soldier despite their gender. I believe there is too much focus on making sure everything is separated by gender.

Response by SSG J F Texas made Jan 30 at 2020 12:48 AM

SSG J F Texas — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 00:48:21 -0500

This is just another feel good cause. In support of EEO you are a veteran period. That is what equality is.

Response by SP5 George Korth sr made Jan 30 at 2020 8:12 AM

SP5 George Korth sr — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:12:41 -0500

they should be available now . no reason not to

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 1:12 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:12:31 -0500

Hear me out. Unpopular opinion Im sure but IMO, the entire country could use a healthy dose of “MYOB”.
If a woman wants a license plate that says “female veteran” or “woman veteran” or any other respectful identifier, thats HER choice! They arent mandatory, right? She can still opt for the one that doesnt have a gender identifier, right? I would definitely have an opinion about forcing either of those. Then, just like what a woman puts in her body (alcohol, sugar, etc) this is no one else’s business.
For women who want it, they have to go to the LPA, pay their fee and ELECT to get the license plate of their choice, even if it says Dallas Cowboys (frankly, that one is more concerning than “woman veteran”! Lol)
As for security, if she served, Im sure shes more aware than the other 98.7% of the country about security. Let her do to the car she probably pid for whatever TF she wants!

Response by SPC Carl Hockett made Jan 30 at 2020 7:35 PM

SPC Carl Hockett — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:35:26 -0500

Anything stopping female vets from displaying bumper stickers to the same effect until such plates exist?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 10:07 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:07:08 -0500

One day my husband and I were shopping at home depot and the great thing about shopping there is that we get military discount of 10% with every purchase. Once we were at the cash register cashing out the cashier asked to see my husband's military ID for proof. He gladly showed this woman his dependents ID. She quickly said "Thank you for your service with a smile" then my husband said with pointing at me, "She's the one that sacrificed her time, not me". Then the lady said, "Oh, what Branch?".. Which made it interesting because she would have dropped it all if it was my husband that has served. I didn't take offence to it because I understand civilians dont see the military the way a military member or a veteran does. I am proud to have put my time in and no one will take that away from me.

With that being said, I think its ridiculous to put a gender on the license plate. Woman have fought so hard for equal rights and equal opportunities so that people dont hold them back for their gender. Why do you need to voice the gender on your vehicle? You earned the same as a Male to put that veteran's plate on so so your pride in the unity with your battle buddies (male and/or female). Oh and also, the whole hiding your pride because you and your family becomes a target is disappointing. I dont agree with hiding your pride for your service or your country because of fear.

Response by PO3 D L made Jan 31 at 2020 11:27 AM

PO3 D L — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:27:47 -0500

I am a female veteran ... I am a VETERAN ...I have faced people who assume it's all about my husband (and his service) but I smile and say, that's where we met and I served too. It is as easy as that. The country has gotten crazy with being PC whether it is race, gender, or whatever, it's just gotten TOO crazy. A Veteran is a Veteran no matter the gender no matter the battle they may served through, we are all veterans and need ONLY ONE special license plate

Response by SPC Tim Silk made Jan 31 at 2020 1:18 PM

SPC Tim Silk — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:18:54 -0500

Were this man women LGBTQ and anyone else that wants to morph into something other than what or who they were determined to be by GOD, were it not forced on everyone, Had this B.S. not reared its ugly head there wouldn't be any reason to identify as? Most just ride it out as they know who they are and what if anything they
did. You want to beat your chest like Tarzan knock yourself out.

Response by SPC(P) Craig Kupras made Jan 31 at 2020 4:36 PM

SPC(P) Craig Kupras — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:36:10 -0500

Hmm... What about veterans like Chelsea Manning? As for the female veteran getting grief for parking in a veteran parking space, I would think "I am a veteran, dickhead," is the appropriate response.
That said, I wonder if Beau Bergdahl drives around with veteran plates.

Response by SP6 Greg Jetter made Jan 31 at 2020 6:30 PM

SP6 Greg Jetter — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:30:21 -0500

Whats the point ? why aren't veterans plats enough ? Now if they did something like make a set of plates for the veterans that were in the "WAC's" (Women's Army Core) that would be great , My wife would love those and so would all the boomers like her that served in that branch . you young ins look it up , Ladies served in their own branch up until 1978 , just after Vietnam . now that would be some thing to get behind.

Response by SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez made Jan 31 at 2020 11:47 PM

SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 23:47:35 -0500

https://www.ncsl.org/research/military-and-veterans-affairs/state-policies-for-women-veterans.aspx

state-policies-for-women-veterans.aspx

Response by SSgt Carroll Straus made Feb 1 at 2020 12:49 AM

SSgt Carroll Straus — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 00:49:41 -0500

Sexism is treating someone poorly, not honoring them. Your assumption that women vets don’t I deserve to be honored separately is pretty sexist.

Response by TSgt Teri Ulring made Feb 1 at 2020 1:35 AM

TSgt Teri Ulring — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 01:35:42 -0500

Nevada already has one.

Response by 1LT Teresa Haering made Feb 1 at 2020 4:10 AM

1LT Teresa Haering — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 04:10:29 -0500

For security reasons - no! I had a veteran plate a while back in another state. I’m today’s climate I don’t put anything on my car, not even a bumper sticker. People are crazy. No need to draw attention or ire to your car when you aren’t even there. If someone says something calmly walk up and show and Id or call the store security. There are all sorts of crazies in the world - don’t forget your OPSEC lessons.

Response by LCpl Chad Swetmore made Feb 1 at 2020 9:48 AM

LCpl Chad Swetmore — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:48:36 -0500

I've served with many females. My personal opinion is that in the military we are a cohesive unit. In the marines we never refered to or treated females differently so why should we start with veteran plates?

Response by PO1 George Vernon made Feb 1 at 2020 11:21 AM

PO1 George Vernon — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:21:12 -0500

Yes I think they should have their plates,
They deserved them and paid the price.
I think only ones with.

or medical discharge

Response by PO1 George Vernon made Feb 1 at 2020 11:31 AM

PO1 George Vernon — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:31:49 -0500

Continue
Only the ones with an honorable or medical under honorable discharge

Response by SGT George Stephens made Feb 1 at 2020 11:36 AM

SGT George Stephens — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:36:51 -0500

Here's where I'm about to send fire like steel rain.

You're a veteran! Male, Female, black, white, brown, red, yellow, etc. it doesn't matter. You served your country honorably and now are a part of a family that is large but as well.

If you start putting out there, "Proud female veteran" then someone else will want "Proud Black Veteran" or "Proud Gay Veteran" or whatever. Now you have a divide among veterans and truth be told we as a nation are already divide so much so that the 70's are returning and we're not too far from the 60's where we're segregated once again.

So no, put on your tag or license that you're veteran and Charlie Mike. You bleed red, you breath the same air, you love the same country as much as the rest of us. No need to divide the closest group to become much like the sheep we're surrounded by daily.

Response by SP5 Joyce Eikenberry made Feb 1 at 2020 1:31 PM

SP5 Joyce Eikenberry — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 13:31:11 -0500

As a woman veteran myself, I might be kinda prejudiced by saying "yes."

Update: I drive a 2008 Chevy Uplander cargo van with Veteran license plates. I was asked yesterday when I parked in a handicap space, "Is that your husband's car?" I replied (politely) that no: it is my car and my license plate. The person went away, muttering something about liars.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Feb 1 at 2020 4:13 PM

MGySgt Rick Tyrrell — Sat, 01 Feb 2020 16:13:24 -0500

You know a veterans a veteran color, sex, religion if they are a veteran that’s it. Why produce something special for a woman? Next thing you know every different group will want there own then we grow weak through separation. The correct answer is No!

Response by SPC Kathy Crouch made Feb 2 at 2020 12:37 AM

SPC Kathy Crouch — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 00:37:53 -0500

I'm in a female veterans romance writers group we're called ROMVETS. And one of our members got a plate that says ROMVET.

Response by SGT Al Mount made Feb 2 at 2020 9:33 AM

SGT Al Mount — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 09:33:15 -0500

YES
I think it would be a great idea

Response by SSG James N. made Feb 2 at 2020 10:12 AM

SSG James N. — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 10:12:24 -0500

Question: In this day of demanded equality, is a VETERAN PLATE not good enough?
WHY in all sense would it defy equality and cause segregation by stating WOman or TRANS or GAY or some other kind of DIVISIVE bullshit?
VETERAN PARKING is for VETERAN's.
I watched a female vet at Lowe's, you know, this, fir, tatted, dirty hands and nails, she gets out of her pick up across from me as a dependa parks next to me in a Veteran's Parking spot. I simply give dependa a stink eye like wtf bitch, you ain't a vet, then female vet, OMG, PRICELSS, she reams this dependa enough to cause her to get back into her minivan and park two spots over. The selling point was, "You stupid cunt, do you see these dog tags on my arm? They were my friends. I watched them die. YOU DIDN'T EARN THIS SPOT, THEY DID!" This metal artist had zero fucks, and was totally about it. Her plate? OIF Veteran Plate, NOT the TN Woman Vet plate

Response by SGT John Melvin made Feb 2 at 2020 10:51 AM

SGT John Melvin — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 10:51:59 -0500

Sure. Women in the military have earned recognition.

Response by PO1 Douglas Baird made Feb 2 at 2020 10:52 AM

PO1 Douglas Baird — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 10:52:57 -0500

According to http://www.womenshealth.va.gov/ overall 1 in 10 veterans are female.
And women make up nearly 11.6 percent of OEF/OIF/OND Veterans. I don't treat female veterans any different. Most veterans who are vocal about being a vet, usually stop me to ask about my service. But that's because I am usually wearing a ship's ball cap to protect my half bald head, and need assistance to walk more than about 20 feet.

Response by SGT Willie Jeffery made Feb 2 at 2020 11:20 AM

SGT Willie Jeffery — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 11:20:01 -0500

We have them here in Georgia

Response by SP5 Melissa Birmingham made Feb 2 at 2020 11:27 AM

SP5 Melissa Birmingham — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 11:27:27 -0500

There are woman veteran license plates in TN, but they need to be nationwide. This is what mine look like

Response by Cpl Lisa Taylor made Feb 2 at 2020 2:15 PM

Cpl Lisa Taylor — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 14:15:41 -0500

I do believe there should be recognition for women veterans separately. My husband and I are both veterans and there are many times when we are at an event or in public that he is recognized but I am overlooked because it's an assumption that the man is the veteran. I currently have a plate that states woman veteran. I know it's not much but it does give me a sense of Pride to have it.

Response by Sgt Dan Hochstetler made Feb 2 at 2020 2:52 PM

Sgt Dan Hochstetler — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 14:52:31 -0500

Sadly I do not think so. The Veteran license plates that exist today do not say "man or men", so why should the women have a special license plate? Women always want to assimilate with the military and men, and not be "treated differently". So now you know my opinion.

Response by MSG Jacqueline Chaplin made Feb 2 at 2020 5:20 PM

MSG Jacqueline Chaplin — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 17:20:50 -0500

I personally would not buy a Female Veterans license plate. I am a veteran and that is sufficient to stand on its own. We always have an opportunity to educate that females also serve.

Response by Sgt Ivan Boatwright made Feb 2 at 2020 7:46 PM

Sgt Ivan Boatwright — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 19:46:26 -0500

Americans today already are targets. Anything to make us less of a target will not happen. Should women have their own car tags? It would be easier to ask why not? They are made for so many reasons, one more is nothing new.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Feb 2 at 2020 7:49 PM

SSG Harry Herres — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 19:49:31 -0500

As long as the good old boys club exists, there will be the, but I am. It stinks and has been wrong forever. Until men or boys realize women have served from day one, it will not change. To many guys can't accept reality. That's their problem. Thank all you ladies for your service you have made America what it is. Thank you,stay safe say strong !

Response by CPT William Jones made Feb 2 at 2020 8:23 PM

CPT William Jones — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 20:23:29 -0500

I guess the problem is partially because the total number of females is so small. Only about 1% of population serves now and even 20 % of that is still a small number. But thank all of you who choose to serve. From an older vet from another time.

Response by SPC George Migliore made Feb 2 at 2020 9:02 PM

SPC George Migliore — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:02:24 -0500

I’m a mail veteran and I will support all mail and denial veterans. Go girl I’ll back you up my sisters.

Response by CPO Albert Kennison made Feb 2 at 2020 9:03 PM

CPO Albert Kennison — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:03:03 -0500

As a veteran myself, I agree with the female veteran about having a special license plate for female vets. Do not promote sexism. She is a veteran, period. If someone tries to shame a female vet for parking in a veteran spot, ignore them and move on MARINE. Don't whine about it. YOU ARE A MARINE VET. ONCE A MARINE, ALWAYS A MARINE. ACT LIKE IT!

Response by SPC George Migliore made Feb 2 at 2020 9:03 PM

SPC George Migliore — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:03:53 -0500

Go girl I back you up . I’m a mail veteran and I support you.

Response by PFC Elouise Taylor made Feb 2 at 2020 9:06 PM

PFC Elouise Taylor — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:06:57 -0500

Here in Georgia we have Women Veteran license plates

Response by Sgt Vance Bonds made Feb 2 at 2020 9:20 PM

Sgt Vance Bonds — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:20:24 -0500

Nevada. My wife has one for women who served. Silhouette of a uniform woman saluting. Check it out. It's pretty cool. She was Navy, then Army

Response by CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2020 9:21 PM

CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:21:29 -0500

At least 11 states—Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas— and D.C. offer a special license plate recognizing female veterans.

Response by CPT William Jones made Feb 2 at 2020 9:51 PM

CPT William Jones — Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:51:55 -0500

I do not know what you mean by a person (vet) being run out of a marked parking place for vets. If you are legal you do not have to identify yourself to anyone. Those are not lawful established spots. They are a courtesy of the property management. You can make anyone that’s confronting you to produce their ID Ana authority to do it. Act just like the CSM to the pvt walking on his grass.

Response by SFC James Egan made Feb 3 at 2020 12:15 AM

SFC James Egan — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 00:15:27 -0500

Veterans are veterans regardless of gender. I have a problem with the fact that are probably a lot true veterans that, for whatever reason, fail to reflect the fact that thet arre veterans. My Sonis one of them, 4 years in the Air Forrce, during Viet Nam, but feels since he did not go to the rise rise paddies, he solies the veterans by claiming to be one. I agree that seperate "female" license plates are not necessary but damn it they and should be proud of the fact and not afraid to show it.

Response by CPL Sarah Stilwell made Feb 3 at 2020 12:54 AM

CPL Sarah Stilwell — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 00:54:02 -0500

I've been in the VA for a decade and a half. I was always getting called in the waiting room as 'mr. Stilwell'. Then the VA changed there patient calling to last name only so now they just call out 'stilwell'. When I called the VA on the phone they would asked for my husband's last 4. Then I had to explain that I'm not married. The VA eventually switched to saying 'are you the veteran?' When a person called. Womens clinics didn't exist at the time so I was thrown in with the men at the VA which was fine as long as i got to see a doctor. I've was mistaken for a sailors wife at my kids career day even though i filled out papers saying i was in the army. People said women weren't allowed in combat arms, yet i was on the down aircraft recovery team because the ban didn't apply to aviation. People thought drone pilots never left the states but I worked alongside them in iraq. People ask why I joined the military and I explained to them I didn't (lol) I was born in a birthing bay and at 18 I got my termination of dependency letter as a military kid and 'just went active'. Most people cant imagine raising children behind barbed wire, but it happens. Too many misconceptions both inside and outside of the military if you ask me.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2020 4:49 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 04:49:05 -0500

I don't really see a need for it, but I also don't think it will hurt much. That being said, I do think there will be one unintentional consequence - any female vet who doesn't switch to the "Lady Vet" plate will be presumed to NOT be the vet in question. So in that way, it might actually deepen the misconception.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2020 11:53 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 11:53:24 -0500

I thought we were striving for equality... if being equal with all veterans, why create an additional focused group? Either you are a Veteran, or not. It isn't up to you to educate those that think incorrectly about ones service. I am in the National Guard, and I have my states Guard plates. they do not distinguish male or female.
We are called Airman, Soldiers, Sailors and Marines we are not categorized as "male" or "female".
What about those that don't consider themselves from any gender specific group? ( I do not subscribe to that idiotic psycho-babble)

Response by SFC Bob Bennett made Feb 3 at 2020 1:30 PM

SFC Bob Bennett — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:30:26 -0500

Same goes for disabled veterans. Both my wife and I are disabled veteran. Both Big Red One Veterans, and any time we park in handicap spots many times we get funny looks. I gue if you aren't missing something and/or you're not in a wheelchair, there is nothing wrong with you.

Response by LCDR Richard Ridler made Feb 3 at 2020 1:47 PM

LCDR Richard Ridler — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:47:13 -0500

Nothing other than “veteran” is needed. Otherwise we’ll have to be “politically correct” & have all different nationality veterans plates too. My personal choice would be
“over 65-white-heterosexual-balding, male Veteran”! That would cover all my bases! Except...we are all one “Proud American Veteran” that sums up the whole thing!
Semper Fi!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2020 2:24 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:24:48 -0500

Actually, a couple of years ago, the McGuire Women's Center handed out applications for women veterans plates, but I never heard anything about it, afterwards.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2020 2:28 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:28:19 -0500

I can get why someone wants it- because no one ever thinks females can be or are veterans. So many people just assume if a woman has a veteran sticker on her car it's her husband's.

At least twice on active duty I've had this issue - both when I took my daughter to the hospital. The first time she had to go for an appointment after we had moved for my compassionate, the lady said 'Oh you have TRICARE - what's your husband's social." Something she asked about my husband. I said I'M the active duty soldier." Embarrassment.

The second time I took her to cardiology which she hadn't seen a lot of by that time. They check me in and again see TRICARE and ask what branch my husband is in and I very curtly said the same thing. But more peeved because no way in hell my ex husband could ever serve and had he - he'd probably have gotten kicked out due to drugs.

So I see why some want to distinguish genders because it's so damn irritating to be a female servicemember and after 18 + years of conflict people STILL don't think women serve!

The sexism already exists against us. I say just get a veteran plate but I won't ever get one anyway nor do I put bumper stickers on my car. It's stupid - and I've been MI my whole career. Another reason I have none.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2020 8:13 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 20:13:40 -0500

There’s nothing bad about distinguishing between the genders. Men and women are each unique and I hate the new agenda to blurr the lines. I am proud of being referred to as a female veteran.
To put a certain plate on a car or wear certain clothing, especially expressing patriotism or love of country, is great but one must beware it could bring some backlash.

Response by SrA Allan Yates made Feb 3 at 2020 11:06 PM

SrA Allan Yates — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:06:15 -0500

JMHO, but I think a veteran is a veteran. We need to think in terms of unifying ourselves as a whole rather than making distinctions between M veteran, F veteran, combat arms, POG, etc.

Disabled Veteran POV plates are a good thing, as that plate lets everyone know that the veteran is lawfully entitled to park in a parking spot set aside for handicapped and/or disabled people.

As for veteran plates that show which branch of the military you served in, I think those are good, too. Pride in your branch of service is a good thing.

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Feb 4 at 2020 6:11 AM

SN Kristi Kalis — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 06:11:23 -0500

"Isn't everyone who volunteered equally as valuable?" In a perfect world, yes. We don't live in a perfect world. There continues to be case after case of rape, assault, harassment and illegal pornography for women in the military, just as much as there continues to be case after case of cover-ups, illegal discharges and victim intimidation for women in the military. The internet has amplified these egregious behaviors.

You will undoubtedly see post after post from men who bluster, thump their chests and call us names for speaking out about this and other female veteran issues. They mock us. They harass us. Even after discharge, we continue to be seen as "less than" from the men who also served. And of course, there will be the all-too-common "not all men" comments as well. They can never understand that their service and ours were completely different, though we served at the same times, in the same theaters of operation and in the same amount of danger from our enemies.

So, yes. We should be able to have our own license plates if we want to. As with any other decision, it is an individual one that is opted in depending on your own personal experience and feelings. I know many veterans who have not opted for veteran license plates.

Response by Sgt Ken Wagner made Feb 4 at 2020 9:09 AM

Sgt Ken Wagner — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 09:09:00 -0500

I say no. A Veteran is a Veteran, Female or Male.

Response by SSG David Milholen made Feb 4 at 2020 10:13 AM

SSG David Milholen — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 10:13:52 -0500

I treat any soldier as they are not what they are. To me that would be putting a gender on a pedestal. We all joined for our own reasons but most importantly is our duty and service to treat everyone as equals.

Response by PO1 Farcon Washington made Feb 4 at 2020 1:29 PM

PO1 Farcon Washington — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:29:45 -0500

Well I am a dark skin man that is disabled and a European woman walked up to my vehicle when I parked in a designated parking spot for disabled veterans screaming into my vehicle. I wanted to explode with anger at that woman and it’s not sitting well with me. I don’t like to be questioned about my credentials.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 4 at 2020 7:51 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:51:41 -0500

I want to know how big is the problem for female disabled veterans?

Response by SGT William Pelletier made Feb 4 at 2020 8:32 PM

SGT William Pelletier — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 20:32:28 -0500

I say let them have it that way we know if the vet is man or a women they earn to be notice I work with some good women in the army some I trusted better than men

Response by SGT Mike Adams made Feb 4 at 2020 9:04 PM

SGT Mike Adams — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 21:04:38 -0500

No. Already enough division on our country. Just be recognized as a veteran.

Response by PO2 Andrew Carpenter made Feb 6 at 2020 1:49 PM

PO2 Andrew Carpenter — Thu, 06 Feb 2020 13:49:34 -0500

To be accurate, Women have been serving on the Battlefield since before this Country was a thought. The idea that a Veteran must be a Man has to be from people who either know nothing about the Military or have an attitude about Women in the Military. I have NO problem with license plates saying Women Veteran. May I suggest that Women Vets be Proactive. Order a License Plate Frame that says Women Veteran and maybe a rank or branch. My guess is that with the education of the general population, maybe Women who served will get the Honor they have so richly earned and deserve. SALUTE

Response by SGT Doug Blanchard made Feb 6 at 2020 4:41 PM

SGT Doug Blanchard — Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:41:56 -0500

Here in Florida we have license plates to honor the different branches of the military, along with several other specialty plates. Such as U.S. Paratrooper, Pearl Harbor Survivor, OEF/OIF, National Guard, Purple Heart Recipient. All of which except for the ones honoring the different branches, you have to show your 214 in order to get them. Only the USMC tag you have to prove you are a Marine, active or retired to get it.
As for a designated tag for women Veterans only, I say NO. As for a vehicle tag that the has something such as U.S. Military Veteran or some such, YES. I know a number of female Veterans and have a number of female relatives that are Veterans, they do not consider themselves to be any different than any other Veteran. Namely their male counter parts.

Response by MSG Brenda Neal made Feb 8 at 2020 12:41 AM

MSG Brenda Neal — Sat, 08 Feb 2020 00:41:58 -0500

I was in a store with my dog who has a decal on her vest saying woman veteran. Some kid asked me when she served? Stupid is just stupid. Those moments when someone does say thanks for your service makes it ok.

Response by SPC Cara Alligood made Feb 8 at 2020 5:46 AM

SPC Cara Alligood — Sat, 08 Feb 2020 05:46:18 -0500

I personally wouldn't want anything distinctive on my car. Driving something other than a white pickup is distinctive enough where I live. Designating my vehicle as belonging to a female would just attract criminals. I have a baseball cap that says I'm a female veteran. That's enough.

Response by MSgt Peter Castine made Feb 9 at 2020 7:39 PM

MSgt Peter Castine — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 19:39:08 -0500

I say no. A veteran is a veteran. Sex is not part of the equation. I think having seperate plates will make it look like she is less of veteran than her male counterparts. She earned the title veteran just like we did. Be proud that you served and thanks for your service.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Feb 10 at 2020 1:03 PM

PVT Mark Zehner — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 13:03:50 -0500

Ohio has them

Response by Col Robert Ginn made Feb 10 at 2020 6:36 PM

Col Robert Ginn — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:36:08 -0500

I too frequently forget how great this room is. I have been retired (USAF) since 1974 and can be brought to tears by the thoughts and words of the people in here. I have been involved with several civilian activities since '74, and repeatedly discover why I loved all you GI Joe's and Janes. You're sharp (thanks for that), you're adventuresome (sorry about those Art 15's, folks) but we(all Americans) bleed red for the same basic purposes. Thanks to all of you whose paths I crossed. Stay well...and keep thinking.
Robert W. Ginn, Colonel, USAF (Ret) (and stay out of my parking spot while there still is one). Stay Well.

Response by SGT Jay Morrison made Feb 10 at 2020 7:57 PM

SGT Jay Morrison — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 19:57:59 -0500

New Mexico has Women Veteran plates. Not sure how long they've been out but I'm glad to see that they are leading the way. There is also a Women Veterans Memorial at the Las Cruces Veterans Memorial Park.

Response by SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield made Feb 16 at 2020 12:54 PM

SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:54:07 -0500

Not sure what state you are in but in georgia they have women veteran tags.

Response by SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield made Feb 16 at 2020 1:10 PM

SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 13:10:28 -0500

Me and my husband are veterans and we both wear our veteran hats at times and people still only think he is the veteran even though i am clearly wearing a hat that says i am a veteran. I saw a shirt on amazon that says I am the veteran and the veterans wife, lol. My husband and I always try to thank a veteran when we see them out. Many people bypass veterans never thanking them for their sacrifices and you barely see women veterans displaying that they are veterans but when I see them I feel proud. Veterans are veterans no matter what gender, I just think people need to stop thinking that men are the only people that serve in the military. I am the only female that has served in the military in my family and I enlisted and served before my husband ever thought about enlisting, he wasn't old enough. My son is serving right now and I am proud of him but I honestly don't know if I would encourage my daughter if she wanted to go, though I am proud that I served but there are many injustices in the military that I don't want her to experience.

Response by MAJ Keira Brennan made Feb 16 at 2020 6:10 PM

MAJ Keira Brennan — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 18:10:19 -0500

I'm inclined to side with a Veteran is a Veteran is a Veteran notion. But I will offer the the following data from VA below.

BLUF: 9.4% of the total Vet population are women.

If a State Govt is inclined to offer female veterans plates, be proud of it. I do the Disabled Vet freebie in Colorado w a 10th Mnt OEF frame.

Demographic Characteristics
• The total population of women Veterans is expected to increase at an average rate of about 18,000 women
per year for the next 10 years. Women Veterans currently are and will continue to be an important part of the
Veteran community and an important part of VA.
• Approximately 2 million Veterans in the United States and Puerto Rico were women. Women represented
about 9.4 percent of the total Veteran population in 2015.
• Twenty-five percent of all living women Veterans served only during peace times. Fifty-six percent of all
women Veterans have served during the Gulf War Era (August 1990 to the present).
• The median age of women Veterans in 2015 was 50, compared with 46 for non-Veteran women.
• In 2015, 19 percent of women Veterans were African American, compared with 12 percent of non-Veteran
women. African American women are also overrepresented compared to African American men in the mili-
tary. In contrast, the percentage of women Veterans who were Hispanic was almost half that of non-Veterans (9
percent compared with 16 percent). The percentage of women Veterans who were Asian is less than half that
of non-Veterans (2 percent compared with 5.5 percent).
• Generally, as the percentage of Hispanics in the general population rises, their representation in the military
rises as well, therefore the percentage of Hispanic women Veterans is expected to increase in the future.
• Women Veterans were more likely to have ever married than non-Veteran women. In 2015, 84 percent of
women Veterans were currently married, divorced, widowed, or separated compared with 72 percent of non-
Veteran women.
• In 2015, 23.4 percent of all women Veterans were currently divorced compared with 12.6 percent of non-Veter-
an women.
• In 2015, 28.6 percent of all women Veterans under the age of 65 had children 17 years old or younger living at
home, and 29.9 percent of non-Veteran women had children 17 years old or younger living at home.

From VA.gov

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Feb 18 at 2020 1:02 PM

SGT Charles Bartell — Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:02:27 -0500

Your cousin must have one of two thing's or both.
A big ego or low self esteem.
A vet tag sould be enough.
Now I can see Branch tags, and maybe campain tags. Like OEF or OIF.
A womans or Mens tag is just dumb.In my opinion
Next thing you know there will be people that want what race or religion on the tags.
People are divided to much now over stupid shit.
Why add more?

Response by SGT Lewis Ray Rains made Feb 18 at 2020 3:32 PM

SGT Lewis Ray Rains — Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:32:45 -0500

We are ALL targets, hard or soft! Just as we should be proud to be Veterans & to have the right to "show" our Veterans pride!! We shouldn't let My faction force us to hide our pride!! That happened to All of our Branches of the Military upon returning from Vietnam!!!!!! WE allowed that to happen. I am not & will not ,ever, be ashamed of my Military Service!!

Response by PVT Gary DeShawne made Feb 29 at 2020 7:15 PM

PVT Gary DeShawne — Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:15:15 -0500

If someone sees it on the car, and thinks that then they don’t know you anyway so who cares what they think? If I see someone driving a car with a veteran sticker I’m going to automatically assume that they are the veteran, even if they are a woman. Only way I’d assume differently is if it said my boyfriends a veteran or my husband is a veteran.

Response by SGT Debra Jahnel made Mar 1 at 2020 5:29 PM

SGT Debra Jahnel — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:29:18 -0500

I'm a 66-yr-old female Army Vet married to an Air Force Retiree. He does almost nothing Veteran-oriented (other than go to VA); I'm slightly more involved. My car has 3 ballcaps in the rear window: a 101st cap, a "medicated Vet" cap, & a Minion cap.
I have NEVER been asked, outside the VA hospital, if my husband is the vet.

I agree in that I feel anything identifying me as a "female Vet" or "woman Vet" is sexist.
I am a Vet. I served to the best of my ability & excelled at my MOS, just as I expect every other Vet to have done.

You're not alone but either we're very much in the minority or others are wary of speaking out.

Response by CPL Steve Patterson made Mar 3 at 2020 10:19 PM

CPL Steve Patterson — Tue, 03 Mar 2020 22:19:35 -0500

you know, in all honesty that’s exactly how I felt the first time I saw a woman’s plate. Why does it say woman? At the same time I completely understand everything you’re saying as far as how it would be assumed that it’s a man’s car, and that’s just a problem our society has that might be a little beyond us. Nevertheless, at least they’re getting some thing it’s not like we’re losing anything. Men that is. I have my veteran license plate in Georgia, and I also have my first of three division sticker and cross rifles. They are small, really only there for the veterans to see, always wanting to meet another 11 bravo, we’re kind of funny like that I guess. But they’re not big gaudy stickersI’m not trying to really make a statement, just wearing something in another way that I’ve always been proud to have worn. That said, I actually kind a look at it as a bonus, I seem to get thumbs up rather often by passing police cars when I myself and speeding. Ha ha

Response by CPL Juan Lugo-Santiago made Mar 5 at 2020 7:31 PM

CPL Juan Lugo-Santiago — Thu, 05 Mar 2020 19:31:58 -0500

There are Army Vets, Air Force vets, Marine vets, Navy vets, Coast Guard vets, but no Man-Forces vets, no Female-Forces vets. We are ONE FORCE and ONE COUNTRY. No blue ,pink or multicolored plates . We all had identical given first names(private ,,,,, general) and that was all that change . Sorry if it sounds homophobic, it's not.

Response by SCPO Lonny Randolph made Mar 8 at 2020 7:14 PM

SCPO Lonny Randolph — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 19:14:58 -0400

With all due respect, is this a "solution" in search of a problem? What next, women police tags, women fire person tags, women medical professionals? Lets extend the thing then - transgendered whatever... black/white/brown/yellow veterans... Maybe we should have special plates that delineate whether you are a snipe veteran who worked in the hole or an airdale veteran that launched planes or a deck veteran that did seamanship or an airplane mechanic veteran or a whatever the heck... Assuming this is such a big thing couldn't it have been handled on a person/person basis? If a person isn't secure enough in themselves and the knowledge that they serve or have served is a special plate going to fix the issue? We all served, share the glory Brothers and Sisters, lets not spend a lot of time trying to get the unwashed masses who have no clue to give us special credit for our gender or our job.

Response by SGM Harvey Boone made Mar 8 at 2020 8:35 PM

SGM Harvey Boone — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 20:35:13 -0400

Tennessee has one as well probably many other states.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Mar 9 at 2020 10:38 AM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 10:38:16 -0400

I see this is several years old but first time I remember seeing it. So here goes.

However, on the other side of this argument, our state already offers veteran license plates. Shouldn't that be enough? Short answer is yes. A veteran is a veteran is a veteran regardless of gender.

Why would we feel the need to distinguish between the genders? We shouldn't...a veteran is a veteran is a veteran. If you served yo wear the veteran tag proudly. If someone is still ignorant enough to assume you aren't the veteran then that is there problem. Correct them on the spot and keep walking proudly.

Isn't everyone who volunteered equally as valuable? ABSOULTELY...I agree that distinguishing between genders is sexism. If they see the plate they will now assume that yo are a clerk, a nurse, admin or supply...when in fact most women carry a ruck and rifle and fly combat jets and are in special forces and have and will continue to do much more...ignorance will prevail no matter what your license plate says. IMHO.

Does it seems smart to have a license plate telling the world that veteran is in that vehicle? I don't think so. I think it makes people feel more secure when they are around veterans. Even though most of us that aren't in anymore are out of shape we can still fight and will stand up for whats right...if yo don't believe me put a veteran in a group of people at any planning event with normal everyday citizens. They always look to the veteran because they know they will take charge and get it done and done right. I don't believe it makes us soft targets...if anything folks don't really want to mess with veterans again IMHO.

Thanks for letting me chime in. I will tag some others so they can chime in as well.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Mar 9 at 2020 11:20 AM

Lt Col Charlie Brown — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:20:38 -0400

I have a removable magnet on the back near my plate. It's there if I want it and in the glovebox when I don't.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Mar 9 at 2020 11:53 AM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:53:34 -0400

Short answer, NO! A veteran is a veteran, regardless of sex. Look my wife goes through your parking lot example all the time with handicapped parking spaces, she is handicapped but doesn't look it, we have a hang tag but choose to not have license plates. Chalk up anyone who says anything out of ignorance as idiot's and move on. Let idiot's get to you and you are succumbing to their level of ignorance.

Response by LTC Gary Earls made Mar 9 at 2020 12:21 PM

LTC Gary Earls — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 12:21:57 -0400

I think you are seeing more military females on TV reports which should help the public realize that women serve also. Of course some people won't think about anyone serving in the military. :-) It may be another way for the DMV to earn more income for the state. :-)

Response by SSG Samuel Kermon made Mar 9 at 2020 1:36 PM

SSG Samuel Kermon — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 13:36:45 -0400

I do not think there should be a separate plate to identify female veterans.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2020 3:29 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 15:29:46 -0400

Why should we have our own license plate made when some of us whine and cry about equality. Yet want to set ourselves apart with this? No absolutely not. Does it such sometimes to hear "tell your husband thanks for his service" yes...but doesnt it feel even better to say oh actually IM the service member. Oh yea it does!
But having a license place specifically for females is a no go. We wear the same uniform, bleed the same blood, and fight the same wars as every other service member. If they make female then they need to make a male one as well. Just my opinion

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Mar 9 at 2020 4:02 PM

SMSgt Bob Wilson — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 16:02:40 -0400

Simple, a Veteran is a Veteran is a Veteran. Red, Yellow, Black, or White, Female or Male, Gay or Straight--if they have served in the military,THEY ARE A VET!!!!! Now we get to the real issue--parking spaces. Stores, malls, restaurants, etc all need only one sign for special parking--HANDCAP PARKING ONLY. I recently was on a military installation and the reserved parking signs were unbelievable. Flag Officer, Military Persons of the Quarter, Military Persons of the Month, Civilian Persons of the Quarter, CO, Senior Enlisted Representative, Pregnant Women, Disabled, and some I forgot. Reserved parking signs need to go!

Response by SGT Charles Brewer made Mar 9 at 2020 8:07 PM

SGT Charles Brewer — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 20:07:58 -0400

She can get herself a Veterans License Plate just like mine. If she wants one that says she's a woman (that sounds sexist to me) then I want one that says I am a man. lol

Response by CPT Wayne Price made Mar 9 at 2020 10:03 PM

CPT Wayne Price — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 22:03:07 -0400

There is in Texas. My daughter in law has one .

Response by SSgt Denis Pelletier made Mar 9 at 2020 11:02 PM

SSgt Denis Pelletier — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 23:02:30 -0400

After all the fighting to become accepted as part of the branches why would you want to start going back to separatism? You are a vet, nothing to prove to someone who is more than happy to try to force their ignorance on everyone else. Walk away. Stand proud of your service, stay vigilant no matter where you are or live. Stand tall soldier we are with and behind you.

Response by SGT Michael Hearn made Mar 9 at 2020 11:44 PM

SGT Michael Hearn — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 23:44:09 -0400

I see the DAV tags on a lot of cars. It does not state the gender Only that the service member was injured serving their country, Each deserves equal respect male or female

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2020 8:58 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:58:21 -0400

No. Women are able to Serve in the military due to their fight for equal rights. Expecting female license plate covers could give off a message that you feel unique because of being a female SM. We all bleed green.

Response by PV2 Angela Storm made Mar 10 at 2020 12:02 PM

PV2 Angela Storm — Tue, 10 Mar 2020 12:02:50 -0400

My plates say "Woman Veteran" and has a silhouette of a female saluting. I got mine a year ago and there were less than 800 in the state (Tx) then. I don't worry about being a target, because for as many who would do me harm, there's hundreds who would back me up.

Response by SPC Karen Coyle made Mar 10 at 2020 5:12 PM

SPC Karen Coyle — Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:12:23 -0400

I have a sticker on my window from "American Women Veterans" along with veteran plates. It works for me. Check out AmericanWomenVeterans.org.

Response by GySgt Marc Dickerson made Mar 16 at 2020 11:19 PM

GySgt Marc Dickerson — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:19:08 -0400

Silly females always trying to be equal. Give it up. It's a man's world.

Response by Brig Gen Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2020 3:32 PM

Brig Gen Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:32:15 -0400

You know, I think you're going to end up being right that we need to specifically identify women veterans until we as a society figure out that women are doing everything. We're pretty backward that way, but then as a nation we're still pretty young. We have the same problem in the flying community; the number of female pilots has remained around 10% even today; and I'm really not sure why.

Response by SFC Clifford Brewer made Mar 28 at 2020 10:38 AM

SFC Clifford Brewer — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:38:13 -0400

I think it up to the person want to take that chance.. I get looks and some will walk up to my POV and check my handicap decal..I don’t like when people come up to my POV look for my handicap decal..I have read and seen videos people losing there life over handicap parking space..

Response by MSG Reid Zohfeld made Mar 28 at 2020 3:14 PM

MSG Reid Zohfeld — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 15:14:53 -0400

Wow I am glad I am not by you It sounds like negative energy surrounds you
If there is a woman veteran than males get one to I never assumed a person wearing a military piece of clothing wasn’t or did not serve And if you are or been in and someone verbally berets you laugh at them Don’t be a victim

Response by SrA James Cannon made Apr 10 at 2020 9:29 AM

SrA James Cannon — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:29:29 -0400

I don’t see a problem with it. If enough lady veterans in a state can get together and qualify to get one made, why not?

Response by SSgt Paul Millard made Apr 15 at 2020 4:17 PM

SSgt Paul Millard — Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:17:07 -0400

I understand where your coming from and not to start a post war, so we would need: Female, Male, Intersex, Trans, Non-Conforming, Personal, and Eunuch or whatever label someone comes up with...
Then LGBQ community will chime in and want: Aliagender Vet, Androgyne, Asexual, Bicurious, Cisgender, Demisexual, Lipstick lesbian, Gender questioning, Non-binary and/or Genderqueer or any of the other 50 plus labels they have dreamed up. Seriously, sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand. IMHO gender is not a flip of the coin for whatever is in fashion.
Veteran - One who served in the Armed Services, if someone gives a women vet grief about parking in vet spot, first they are ignorant so treat them as such and have a little fun, ask them if the know there are women vets and even women combat vets, Shame the idiots

Response by SPC MarQuita Gales made Apr 16 at 2020 4:54 PM

SPC MarQuita Gales — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 16:54:55 -0400

The state of GA has Women Veteran plates. I think it is a good idea to
To have the option to specify that I am a veteran but not only am I veteran, I am a women who served proudly. I earned that title and made the sacrifices to be recognized as the 20%. Often have I been asked am I the spouse. Too often have I had to explain that I was the service member. Too often have I felt offended that I was automatically classified as a spouse. I don’t see why we don’t deserve the small recognition for the time lost with our children due to our obligations. Especially if you were/ are a single mother like I am and was my tenure in the ARMY.

Response by MSgt Dale Johnson made Apr 23 at 2020 7:58 AM

MSgt Dale Johnson — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:58:31 -0400

To the first part of your post, I would say that the title Veteran is a higher honor than being a woman. You were born female, but as a Veteran you CHOSE to serve your country and that sets you apart from those who did not. You should not hesitate to correct anyone who questions your service, or the honor that plate infers.
As to the second part of your question, someone's first mistake would be to believe that an old fat man is a soft target because they have a Veteran plate on their vehicle. Can't say what I would do but I know quite a few that have concealed carry and are just ornery enough to throw down in the parking lot.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2020 2:22 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 14:22:14 -0400

I never thought this would be an issue. Why would someone assume a veteran can only be male ?

Response by SSG David Kaelin made Apr 26 at 2020 2:51 AM

SSG David Kaelin — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:51:36 -0400

Only if they make a Men's Veteran License plate.

What does it matter if the Veteran is male or female?

What next?

A Transgender Veteran license plate?

Response by SSgt G Wingate made Apr 26 at 2020 5:20 AM

SSgt G Wingate — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 05:20:18 -0400

NO be strong enough to stand up to stupid civilians and educate them....should dark green Marines have more ??? GTFOH with this pansy question

Response by PO2 “Doc”TJ Garrett made Apr 26 at 2020 8:24 AM

PO2 “Doc”TJ Garrett — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:24:46 -0400

No. Military Personnel and Veterans should not be identified based on their Gender but, perhaps, the Branch of Service they serve or had served in.

I strongly believe in equality! But when you
start separating Military Personnel and Veterans, even by their Gender, you end up causing separatism.

I guess, the next thing someone will be asking, why not have totally separate Armed Service Branches for Men and for Women? As well as having separate Veterans Organizations, again, one for male Vets and one for female Vets.

Where’s the companionship within both the Rank & File of the military and veterans groups?

Kindly, leave sexism off any license plates!

Response by SSG David Kaelin made Apr 26 at 2020 5:29 PM

SSG David Kaelin — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:29:01 -0400

Can mine say "Veteran Dude"?

Response by SPC Judy Glore-Calloway made Apr 27 at 2020 8:03 PM

SPC Judy Glore-Calloway — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:03:22 -0400

In Kentucky I had the option of choosing a license plate with "Veteran" on it or "Woman Veteran". I chose "Woman Veteran". It might just depend on the State that you live in. Contact car registration office to find out.

Response by COL Jon Lopey made Apr 27 at 2020 9:10 PM

COL Jon Lopey — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:10:03 -0400

SGT: I don't see anything wrong giving separate license plates to women veterans. There were separate and distinct female military units, especially in the 20th Century, such as Women Marines WACS, WAVES, SPARS, and even the WASPs, female pilots that ferried military planes all over the nation and sometimes overseas, and many of those that served did not get the recognition they deserved. Typically, many of these female veterans were ushered out of the military after down-sizing associated with most of our wars, disproportionate to their numbers. There are many women who have served courageously and selflessly that didn't get the recognition and respect they deserved so why not allow them a little dignity and respect now? It is no different than many other veterans identifying with their distinct unit designations, specialties, service components, and unique qualifications and sometimes they get special license plate to symbolize their affiliations. As far as veteran license plates are concerned, you always run the risk of someone targeting you but more likely than not, you will be recognized as a special member of a unique fraternity that warrants the requisite honor and recognition of your service. COL L.

Response by PO3 Betty Lusinger made Apr 30 at 2020 4:32 PM

PO3 Betty Lusinger — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:32:30 -0400

My veterans' license plate works just fine.

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made May 4 at 2020 11:58 PM

SMSgt Bob Wilson — Mon, 04 May 2020 23:58:18 -0400

Again, NO. We have too many groups of people who think they deserve special recognition. Hey, majority, minority what every group you are in, remember one thing--YOU ARE AMERICANS. That's enough. Special grouping is and has been bad for the US and Congress keeps on wanting to give recognition to special groups. It is a way to dissolve the "UNITED" in the United States.

Response by SPC Spc Tuck made May 8 at 2020 11:37 AM

SPC Spc Tuck — Fri, 08 May 2020 11:37:39 -0400

Being a Female Combat Veteran myself, I have often times felt like people assume my husband or boyfriend was the veteran. It has irked me to my core!! However to further individualize each other in a country that is already so divided could become even more detrimental to our states. Wouldn’t it suffice to have a decal or emblem on your window if you wanted to be identified as such?

Response by SSgt James Carter made May 8 at 2020 7:11 PM

SSgt James Carter — Fri, 08 May 2020 19:11:19 -0400

The problem is not with the veteran or their spouse. We veterans already understand the how tough the role of spouse is, so the problem is really on the civilian (non-veteran) side of the equation. I believe that we have all written that proverbial check and our spouses had to live with it. Recognition of this is something the VA should be publicizing. I'm no longer surprised how little the public understands but am always available to explain it to them.

I don't care which branch you served, we're all brothers AND sisters and don't need anything to divide us further.

Response by SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA made May 9 at 2020 4:16 PM

SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA — Sat, 09 May 2020 16:16:10 -0400

Having a Veteran's license plate is a fair warning to those who would like to invade a house. Enter and get wasted at your own risk. To have a separate veteran's plate is asking for more battle of the sexes. Yesteryear, women basically participated in war zones as a clerk. Today, they are building up in the combat arms. Yet, I do not see them participating in combat zones and for all that is known, none are wearing campaign medals or ribbons.
Men look at the women as are you or are you not a combat veteran? The author is correct in the statement of separate plates will promote sexism. We have enough garbage going on in the civilian world, we do not need their garbage in our world.
The VA is a perpetrator of sexism of a sort. There is veteran's health and there is female veteran's health. What is interesting about the battle of the sexes is, we all know who we are. I also suppose the VA is not able to tell the difference.

Response by SSG Eric Blue made May 10 at 2020 3:18 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Sun, 10 May 2020 15:18:04 -0400

Not sure about it. The way I see it, a veteran is a veteran. And that is gender immaterial. I DO, however, understand the biases surrounding the natural assumption of the woman being the supporter AND NOT the veteran. I wish I had a better answer.

Response by Ellen Pope made May 12 at 2020 11:12 PM

Ellen Pope — Tue, 12 May 2020 23:12:34 -0400

I've never understood why veterans feel like they need to advertise their service on a license plate.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2020 11:34 AM

SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 May 2020 11:34:34 -0400

I live and we have Women Veterans & Branch retired - so I have Women Veteran and then under it is Air Force Retiree. No extra charge. I have never had anyone questions me about parking in a veterans spot, but we have a large air force base here, so that could be why. I have thought about it and I would just respond with the same answer when I get thanked for my service. I say, it was an honor to serve. In this case, I think I would say that and add so you have the freedoms that you do and just walk away.

Response by PO3 Lisa Brown made May 20 at 2020 6:34 PM

PO3 Lisa Brown — Wed, 20 May 2020 18:34:39 -0400

I am in TN & we have a WV (woman veteran) plate. I proudly have on my car. Because the flip side of the discussion is the female driving that car me be a real bad a##.

Response by SrA Deanna Perez- Smith made May 21 at 2020 1:19 PM

SrA Deanna Perez- Smith — Thu, 21 May 2020 13:19:54 -0400

I love when people come up to and say something. It's an education moment for me to inform them. I have a double whammy I have MS too and I have DP tag. The looks I get, teaching moment. Just what it is teaching moment..

Response by SSgt Kathleen Clinton made Jul 20 at 2020 5:25 PM

SSgt Kathleen Clinton — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:25:28 -0400

Tennessee has women’s veteran plates.

Response by SFC James Welch made Sep 29 at 2020 12:41 PM

SFC James Welch — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:41:15 -0400

I always have my Truck marked Retired Army with front and back license plate holders and a DV plate in the rear!

Response by SP6 Howard Young made Aug 7 at 2021 10:16 PM

SP6 Howard Young — Sat, 07 Aug 2021 22:16:42 -0400

A VET IS A VET. WHY SHOULD WE MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR FEMALE? DON'T THINK SO

Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Sep 1 at 2022 4:59 AM

SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM — Thu, 01 Sep 2022 04:59:33 -0400

Yes they should