The headlines guns, partisan politics and immigration. Of them which are you more passionate about? And why?

2018-03-09T11:54:42-05:00

These topics turn friends and family members against each other. We all are entitled to our opinion. However it always seem to puzzle me when you can provide hard facts and the other person continues to be in denial. They are trapped in their own world and closed minded.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 9 at 2018 12:50 PM

2018-03-09T12:50:03-05:00

Though the other two are important, immigration should at or near the top of the list.

Response by SPC Joseph Wojcik made Mar 9 at 2018 12:53 PM

2018-03-09T12:53:06-05:00

I think all sides have severe issues. The Beatles got it right with Revolution:
"You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead"

Response by SPC David S. made Mar 9 at 2018 1:13 PM

2018-03-09T13:13:55-05:00

Seems the first two are really subsets of the third choice - they are used via identity politics to divide us so I'd have to go with partisan politics as that is the larger big picture problem driving the subset arguments.

Response by Maj Marty Hogan made Mar 9 at 2018 1:31 PM

2018-03-09T13:31:52-05:00

Kinda all go hand in hand

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 2:03 PM

2018-03-09T14:03:13-05:00

They're all tied together really. Immigration is a problem, but access to guns will allow you to protect yourself from those who would intend to do harm. With the partisan politics, each side respectively wants to restrict one and ease restrictions on the other. As far as I'm concerned, there is only one right side in that debate...

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 2:36 PM

2018-03-09T14:36:59-05:00

Without the gun, they will force their partisan beliefs on everyone.

Response by TSgt David L. made Mar 9 at 2018 3:22 PM

2018-03-09T15:22:52-05:00

I'm passionate about being an American. Life in America is about all of these things. Separating issues from the ones you don't like is a lesson in futility. They all need to be addressed as they come. I don't have they energy to argue about them all. Guns, separate from gun control is easy. It's my right to own firearms. Having to click gun control, as a gun issue is click bait! Not biting today!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 3:23 PM

2018-03-09T15:23:05-05:00

I'm passionate about common sense. What makes "sense" isn't always easy, doesn't always make everyone happy, and rarely fits within the "lines" of any specific "side".

Response by MAJ James Woods made Mar 9 at 2018 3:35 PM

2018-03-09T15:35:14-05:00

Interesting that gun control leads in your survey considering both gun control and immigration policies are both influenced by partisan politics. The inability for discussions and debates to remain objective, focused on facts, and respect for others opinions is due to the volatile partisan nature of those involved.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 4:17 PM

2018-03-09T16:17:56-05:00

Two of the three are well regulated. One of the three corrupts the other two. All are used at times to deflect the real news and keep the base enraged.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 9 at 2018 4:52 PM

2018-03-09T16:52:04-05:00

Well, I have no problem with partisan politics. That's just natural. I have no problem with guns, but a great many problems with the idiot conversations being incited by people who are allowing fear to guide their thinking. I have no problems with immigration. Each and every one of us living in the Americas is an immigrant or the descendant of an immigrant. Hurray for immigration! (I sure would not want to be living anywhere else). Now, if you want to talk about illegal trespass on our nation's borders, that's a horse of a different color...

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Mar 9 at 2018 5:05 PM

2018-03-09T17:05:52-05:00

Radical partisan politics is of more concern to me SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter since it impacts every other area of policy making and legislation.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 5:21 PM

2018-03-09T17:21:39-05:00

None of the above rank in my top 5, however I guess that is where the media wants us to focus.

BTW, my top 5 would be:

Money/Corporate Influence in Politics
Climate Change
Long term Economic Outlook/Opportunity in the US
The potential for Nuclear Conflict
Education

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Mar 9 at 2018 5:34 PM

2018-03-09T17:34:38-05:00

I loathe partisan politics.

I'm not overly concerned about Immigration, it has been and will continue to be a convenient scapegoat.

Really the only one of these I'm even remotely "passionate" about is gun rights.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 5:41 PM

2018-03-09T17:41:59-05:00

Guns. Because a civil war will happen if the politicians keep trying to make gun control happen...gun control is using both hands.

Response by SSG Robert Webster made Mar 9 at 2018 6:29 PM

2018-03-09T18:29:17-05:00

Immigration - My wife is an immigrant and naturalized US Citizen.

Response by PO1 Mary Vermont made Mar 9 at 2018 7:07 PM

2018-03-09T19:07:49-05:00

Since it isnt about gun rights but gun control, i have to go with immigration

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 9 at 2018 7:36 PM

2018-03-09T19:36:07-05:00

None of the above. I am dead set against the 2500 mile long monument to stupidity because of the wildlife that will become extinct, like the only Jaguar. Half of the people who have guns SHOULDN'T. I don't believe either of the major parties and will NOT vote for one candidate to keep another out of office

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 8:44 PM

2018-03-09T20:44:46-05:00

Obviously, it's what I do for a living.

Response by MSG Louis Alexander made Mar 10 at 2018 1:18 AM

2018-03-10T01:18:23-05:00

Let us have a clear understanding the two most important things to all American’s are Partisan Politics and Immigration, both dangerous to our nation. For me it’s mass and chain immigration of Muslim’s be it through lottery, chain migration which the United Nations have dictated, or simply classifying others as refugee’s. Now not to sound as if I’m Islamophophic, But I see Islam as a major threat to our national security as well as to the American people. Islam condemns assimilation into any culture other then Islam. American culture and society and everything in which this country stands for. Reference: https://clarionproject.org/Muslim Brotherhood’s Strategic Plan for America._ In fact there are immigration laws already in effect but during the Obama tenure, these laws were ignored allowing Obama to flood the country with unvetted Islamic immigration. The immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular found in Chapter 2, Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means”. This by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States. Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Quran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Quran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its radical form of government. Muslims will seek to upstage our American culture and establish rule of law, in favor of replacing it with Sharia Law, something in which Muslims have not only become fanatical about but are focused in achieving. In the United States the laws of our federal, state and local governments are used in deciding cases that come before “Our” courts, with the US Constitution at the top of the hierarchy. Laws of other nations especially those that may appear in the writings of religious groups such as Islam is irrelevant, yet they claim it infringes on the rights of Muslims to practice their religion. The problem is that their definition of “Practicing their religion is so broad as to permit them to preempt the laws of the United States and each individual state. This is not the proper definition of the free exercise of a religious faith, but rather the overthrow of the legal system established in this country by the US Constitution and constitutions of the states. Therefore, much to their dismay, these exclusions include “Sharia Law”, so beloved by Muslims. When one looks at the teachings of the Quran, it is clear this type of primitive behavior “Is not” recognizable or accepted within the American culture. In America, we defend “Our” laws, constitution, safety welfare, and security against “Any” attempt of foreign immigrants and or refugee’s whose sole purpose is to dominate the world with their twisted barbaric and tribal religion, and people who think “Our” nation must accept their particular faith and or law…should return or be sent back to where this type of behavior is acceptable. “Islamic Law Is Not Compatible” regardless who’s trying to spin it, be it liberal left and or politicians, national news media, educators, contributors and or socialistic utopians. Muslims in the United States continue to use their faith as a crutch and or display themselves as the innocent victim, don’t be fooled to their deceptions. Their ultimate goal is globally domination.

The Muslim Brotherhood's Strategic Plan For America - Court Document | Clarion Project

The following is the official document from a 1991 meeting which outlines the Muslim Brotherhood’s strategic goals for North America. The document was entered as evidence in the 2008 Holy Land Terror Funding Trial. Federal investigators found the document in the home of Ismael Elbarasse, a founder of the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, …

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Mar 10 at 2018 6:23 AM

2018-03-10T06:23:08-05:00

All the above.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Mar 10 at 2018 8:12 AM

2018-03-10T08:12:05-05:00

We have a Constitution and laws that govern both guns and immigration. Partisan politics is what happens when those that don't like the law want to label those that support the constitution and law as terrorists, racists, xenophobes or other pejoratives.

The second amendment is clear and has been upheld for generations but some simply do not like it. The rail against anyone who supports it as a nut or a terrorists or uncaring etc. It is demagoguery of the highest order.

We have immigration laws that are clear and yet we have many that attempt to speak about illegal immigration as if it were legal immigration and talk about anyone that wants the laws enforced as if they are xenophobic or racists.

One side follows the law, the other side name calls, denies the laws exist and wants lawlessness as the order of the day.

Response by SGT John Wesley made Mar 10 at 2018 9:25 AM

2018-03-10T09:25:05-05:00

Partisan politics. A lot of issues would be resolved if their were actual talks with an open mind, versus the garbage both sides spew via CNN/FOX

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Mar 10 at 2018 10:56 AM

2018-03-10T10:56:20-05:00

I believe these labels are misleading. IMO, they should be Gun Violence, illegal immigration, and radical partisan politics.
Actually, I am more "passionate" about the poor numbers of folks that actually use their right to participate in our election system. Our system is flawed, sure. But it is still the beast form of government in this old world. In our most recent General Election, we had about 6 out of 10 eligible voters actually vote. But, less than 30% of eligible voters voted in the primaries or caucuses.
How can we bitch about the candidates if we don't participate? IMO, this is the most dangerous issue facing our nation.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Mar 10 at 2018 12:05 PM

2018-03-10T12:05:28-05:00

Immigration. By that I mean ILLEGAL immigration. The amount of money that is NOT spent on US Citizens because it is wasted on dealing with immigration issues is dumbfounding. Partisan politics is simply politics. We actually need to have different views. Gun control in my opinion means enforcing the laws that are already on the books. When these dirtbags use weapons to commit crimes, CHARGE them with the applicable crimes and SENTENCE them with the applicable sentences.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2018 7:11 PM

2018-03-11T19:11:42-04:00

Opinions are just that, facts are the facts.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 12 at 2018 11:01 AM

2018-03-12T11:01:07-04:00

SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter I see the issue of Gun Control as much more than just attempting to curb violence. I see it as the U.S. Government attempting to interfere with the Constitution. For those willing to give up their right to keep and bear arms, how long before the right to free speech is surrendered? How about the right to vote? It may seem ridiculous, but it is the nature of the beast, once they start getting into the business of limiting freedom, it is a slippery slope to trampling the rights of the people. Whether one chooses to use a right is an individual choice. Choosing whether others use a right is a bad precedent to set. So out of your three choices, I would rank Gun Control as the issue I am most passionate about, followed by partisan politics (specifically I hate both parties and would love to see more parties in our system or none at all), and finally immigration.