What Army doctrine/publication covers wear of the ceremonial belt (ASU)?

SSG James Elmore — Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:31:30 -0400

I have read AR 670–1, DA Pam 670–1 and TC 3-21.5 and have not found anything except it is worn to hold the sword/saber.

Response by Jordan Gaudard made Jun 25 at 2017 3:40 PM

Jordan Gaudard — Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:40:17 -0400

SSG James Elmore I searched the AR and DA Pam as well and couldn't find anything to help. What I found off a website was the wear is governed by local SOP. I did find another SM who wore the belt in his wedding a post on Rally Point. If you have specific questions, maybe that 1SG can answer.

Reference:
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/asu-uniform-for-my-wedding

ASU uniform for my wedding. | RallyPoint

I will be getting married in November and will be wearing my ASUs. I have ordered the full size medals as well as the ceremonial belt. My commander from when I was a 1SG will be my best man and will be wearing the same. In looking at pictures I have found, I notice that most people are not wearing the SSI-FWTS on their uniform but some are. It seems that the ones that are not were wearing the old blues uniform, and the ones that are have on...

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2017 4:33 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:33:14 -0400

I would assume that the rules governing the belt are the same as other belts. Buckle centered on gig line, not cinched so tight as to affect the normal lay of the ASU coat. Now, as far as how "high" on the waist, and covering the last button vs between the bottom two buttons, I have seen it both ways on images. When I look at images of Honor Guards, it looks like the belt if worn at the narrowest part of the waist and falls between the two lowest buttons.

Perhaps reach out to the 3rd ID (The Old Guard) for guidance. I bet they have a POC on their website or FB page. Another place to look would be an Army Band unit.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Jun 25 at 2017 10:23 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:23:29 -0400

SSG James Elmore, the only info I've ever been able to find on the ceremonial belt is from Marlow White. It's worn only with the ASU uniform on ceremonial occasions, with or without NCO sword or officer saber. The link provided is for the enlisted belt. Officers' belts utilize branch specific colors between the two gold bands along the outer edges of the belt. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member SSG Jordan Gaudard

https://www.marlowwhite.com/enlisted-army-ceremonial-belt

Enlisted Army Ceremonial Belt

The Choice of the Professional Soldier since 1879.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2017 4:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:11:57 -0400

While assigned under a 2-star's HQ, I took over as the colorguard NCOIC.

When pursuing the appropriate uniform items (belts, a new NCO sword as our old one was well-aged, gloves, flag poles, etc) I communicated directly with the Ops guys in charge of the 3rd Infantry for guidance. They have their own policies, as no current AR, FM or policy covers a lot of ceremonial requirements, including this belt).

Response by MAJ Ron Peery made Jun 26 at 2017 9:44 PM

MAJ Ron Peery — Mon, 26 Jun 2017 21:44:27 -0400

The only ceremonial belt I ever encountered in 27 years was the toasts at a Dining In.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2017 11:28 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:28:59 -0400

Very good question and worth looking in to.

I would also venture to guess that it would be part of a set which would include white gloves, saber, and service cap.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2018 6:31 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Dec 2018 06:31:47 -0500

A year later, I'm still looking into this because I can never seem to find anything with each new addition to the regs. Did anyone ever manage to come up with some SOP or guidlines?