What can I expect when I medically retire from the National Guard?

SPC Chelsea Fernandez — Sun, 08 May 2016 18:29:10 -0400

Last drill I was completely blind sided with paper work explaining that I didn't meet the Retention Physical Standard to continue on in the National Guard. This drill coming up I have to clear supply and my orders for Annual Training has been revoked. Can I get some advice as far fitness concerns and other stuff I may need? Thanks

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2016 6:38 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 May 2016 18:38:22 -0400

Should get some disability.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 8 at 2016 6:40 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sun, 08 May 2016 18:40:14 -0400

Out of my Skill Sets, Only one I know similar is FC2 Robert Taylor my Son-in-Law, Medically discharged from Active Duty USN and I am a bit jealous of the "Untaxed" bit of Beer Money he gets from Uncle Sam.

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made May 8 at 2016 8:00 PM

SPC Casey Ashfield — Sun, 08 May 2016 20:00:35 -0400

Expect it will take a long time. NG doesn't have the same personnel to work out administrative issues. Just because you have a UA at the armory doesn't mean they will always have a full time staffer at the medical portion. Some soldiers in NG units I served with were waiting months or even years to get their DD-214.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made May 8 at 2016 8:11 PM

Capt Tom Brown — Sun, 08 May 2016 20:11:54 -0400

SPC Chelsea Fernandez As with a number of questions and issues similar to yours there will be a lot of good suggestions and recommendations on how to proceed, who to contact, etc and how you can 'fight' the process if you feel it is unfair. You will have to provide more details of your situation to those you feel have more insights to offer, including perhaps someone in your COC. Using the Connection private messages, emails, etc will give you an opportunity to share details and keep them private at the same time. Best wishes to you in resolving your issue..

Response by SSG Brian Lovins made May 8 at 2016 9:00 PM

SSG Brian Lovins — Sun, 08 May 2016 21:00:40 -0400

is the nature of your injury/illness military related? This will determine if it goes to MEB or PEB, most likely unless you have 18 years in service you will be medically discharged NOT retired, if it is military related your MAY get a pay out but I do not know anyone that was medically discharged that collected anything extra, medical retirement for the NG is a lot different than for the Active duty. Google Army regulations for medical discharge/retirement and you will find all the answers you need, when I was going through the process it took 5 years and a call to IG before I was actually retired, I had 19 years at that time and chose to medically retire than to fight the system anymore, actually Ii wasnt even fighting I was constantly turning in doctors paperwork and it was getting sent up to the state medical and sat on until it was lost. MEB and PEB are both boards which I believe you have a right to attend and plead your case. You need to research the AR's and make sure you understand them, when I was going through the process I had them downloaded to my phone as well. Here are links to 2 of the regulations you need to learn inside and out. Good luck.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r635_40.pdf http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r40_501.pdf

Response by CPL Ricky Vasquez made May 9 at 2016 12:30 AM

CPL Ricky Vasquez — Mon, 09 May 2016 00:30:16 -0400

A lot of paper work.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 9 at 2016 1:56 AM

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Response by CW4 Kenneth Berninger made May 10 at 2016 7:50 AM

CW4 Kenneth Berninger — Tue, 10 May 2016 07:50:22 -0400

I do not have anything to add to what has been said. Hang in there!

Response by SPC Jason Stubbs made May 10 at 2016 9:48 AM

SPC Jason Stubbs — Tue, 10 May 2016 09:48:58 -0400

First off you need to submit a WRITTEN STATEMENT OF DISAGREEMENT. You also need to request assistance/guidance with how to deal with this notification! Send it registered mail with delivery notification. DO THIS ASAP!!

Response by SSG Robert White made May 10 at 2016 1:38 PM

SSG Robert White — Tue, 10 May 2016 13:38:22 -0400

You need to go thru a Med Board. If you can have that done, then they can medically retire you.

Response by SGT Joseph Dutton made May 10 at 2016 6:46 PM

SGT Joseph Dutton — Tue, 10 May 2016 18:46:57 -0400

So what is the Physical Standard that you didn't meet. Is it on the PT Test scores? When I was in the guard my units commanders PT standard score was 240. That's 80 points for each of the setups, pushups and the 2 mile run but the Army's standard PT score 180. That's 60 points for each of the setups, pushups and the 2 mile run. If your meeting the Army's standard but not the commander's standard then they have no leg to stand on. I was in the same situation and I put the unit on notice that I'm going to seek legal advice via JAG or the IG. The paper work was destroyed and I was reinstated and finally retired from the guard. Best of luck.

Response by SGT Greg Gold made May 10 at 2016 9:19 PM

SGT Greg Gold — Tue, 10 May 2016 21:19:42 -0400

Separating a service member due to poor performance, non compliance, or other non favorable actions takes months of counselling and COC approved paperwork. If this is a retention issue then it means that you got caught in the QMP, or you have a bar to reenlistment. Either way you COC should have informed you why you no longer meet the standards for retention. Until we know more everything else is speculation.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 1:28 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 01:28:57 -0400

While I do not want to get into your medical records have you reviewed army regulation 40-501? You may have the right to contest the determination. You might have to attend a hearing for peb/meb. Make sure you CO.pare the notice you received to the regulation. I have heard some memos may not provide you all of your rights. Consult the JAG to make sure you have your legal rights.