What defines a company size element in the Army?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:24:55 -0400

I am deployed in a Finance Detachment of 25 soldiers. We have a CPT as a commander. This question is in regards to SSI-FWTS. AR 670-1 19-17 2c, "When echelons below company level (such as teams or squads) deploy, members of these units will wear the SSI of the lowest echelon deployed Army unit (company or higher) in the deployed chain of command".
I have been told since we have a CPT as a commander we are a company sized element and I have been told we are company sized element due to our DoDAAC. What is the correct answer and what are the references?
P.S. I don't mind wearing either SSI, mostly just looking for the right answer here.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2018 12:31 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:31:40 -0400

Not sure what the book answer is, but I can tell you what my experience is. I was deployed in 2010 as part of a Preventive Medicine Detachment which consisted of 13 people. We had our own UIC, our own DoDaaC. We were authorized to wear either our unit patch as our SSI-FWTS or our next higher up, the 261st MMB. Our choosing.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2018 2:21 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:21:31 -0400

I can't answer your question, I deployed to Afghanistan in 2014 with a liason team, I had a LTC for a commander, we had a Mjr, Lt and CWO3, plus 7 NCO's but our paper work had us wear the patch of the command we reported to. I think the called it the leaning $h!t house, they were out of Bragg.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2018 5:05 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:05:11 -0400

When I was with the infantry with the 82nd. it was 210 men, and the 82nd had less then that in a MP company.

Response by LTC John Griscom made Oct 18 at 2018 7:50 PM

LTC John Griscom — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:50:14 -0400

The rank of the commander doesn't matter. Were there other detachments under the "company" element that was in your chain of command?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2018 10:39 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:39:43 -0400

I would look at your MTOE. It should give you an idea of what your next higher echelon is. You can search for it by UIC on FMSweb.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 12:24 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 00:24:28 -0400

Do what your Commander tells you to and you’ll usually be fine.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2018 6:23 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:23:53 -0400

For HR and finance they are formed into detachments that fall under a company commander. The actual company commander (Major) with assumption of command orders remains the only company commander. Unless you are deployed with him you are just a subordinate Detachment Derivative UIC.