What flag should be worn with the new (OCP) uniform? The new subdued or full color?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:37:53 -0400

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 8 at 2015 2:40 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:40:21 -0400

I say stay with the full color unless deployed.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jul 8 at 2015 4:16 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:16:05 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member - I say "full color", unless in a field environment. As long as it is not the Confederate or Gay Pride flag, I guess. [It's a joke ... no hate mail, please].. :-)

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2015 5:11 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:11:00 -0400

This reg is still in effect, even with the new uniform. It is no different then previous uniform pattern changes.
21–18. Wear of U.S. flag embroidered insignia
a.
All Soldiers will wear the full-color U.S. flag embroidered insignia on utility and organizational uniforms, unless
deployed or in a field environment. Soldiers will wear the subdued tactical flag insignia while deployed or in a field
environment.
b. How worn.
See DA Pam 670–1

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 11:01 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:01:10 -0400

I wish they would do away with the subdued flag, those are not the colors of our Flag

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2015 4:28 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:28:11 -0400

full color flag.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 12:38 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:38:46 -0400

the flag should NEVER be subdued

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2015 5:57 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 17:57:53 -0400

Can someone explain the difference between the subdued flag (the black and white one) and the one they are selling with the uniform (actually called the OCP Flag). I have seen examples of the unifrm being worn with both flags.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 12:16 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:16:54 -0400

ALARACT 85/2015 Paragraph 5. INSIGNIA AND ACCOUTERMENTS WORN ON THE ACU MUST BE OF THE CORRESPONDING CAMOUFLAGES PATTERN COLOR. THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL OF NAME TAPES, SHOULDER SLEEVE INSIGNIA, TABS, GRADE INSIGNIA, FORMER WARTIME SERVICE, AND SEW-ON BADGES WILL MATCH THE CAMOUFLAGE PATTERN OF THE UNIFORM.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2015 8:44 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:44:51 -0400

Regardless of regs, I feel it should be full color in garrison, subdued in the field/deployment.

Response by SGT Scott Bell made Sep 25 at 2015 8:55 PM

SGT Scott Bell — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:55:07 -0400

Full color", unless in a field environment.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 7:46 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Oct 2015 19:46:07 -0400

I've seen both. I was literally looking this up yesterday. Dead end. The ALARACT said something very vague about the shoulder sleeve insignia, but doesn't address the flag specifically.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 8:24 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:24:08 -0400

With respect, a representation f a flag that is not in color, is not a flag, per the definition of the flag in Chapter 4 of the United States Code. So if we are to wear a "flag" it should be in color. Subdued color representations of the flag should only be worn when tactically appropriate, or more specifically, when wearing bright colors is tactically inappropriate.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 4:26 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:26:57 -0400

Reg hasn't been changed, so I would say wear your stars and bars in red, white, and blue, unless, as previously stated, in a field/tactical environment. I have seen the "ocp" flag on several shoulders, but I'd say full color unless told otherwise.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Jun 20 at 2017 12:45 PM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:45:26 -0400

I've been out a while.. and instead of making an issue of whether to wear camo
Or full color(depending if conus or O'seas), just wear.camo all the time, it would surely save on confusion wondering when to wear and did you pack your camo patch in your mo-bag ..

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2018 7:31 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:31:10 -0500

full color

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2018 6:36 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 31 Dec 2018 18:36:02 -0500

Subdued worn in field environment

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2018 6:39 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 31 Dec 2018 18:39:19 -0500

Although I have been told it is Commander’s Discretion

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2019 9:04 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:04:53 -0400

Full color unless deployed or prescribed by the commander.

Response by SSG Jim Schimon made Jan 29 at 2021 8:43 AM

SSG Jim Schimon — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:43:13 -0500

Never full or bright colors should be on a camouflage uniform. Please stop the stupid. Ok after 23 year I should know better .Sorry I just got eat up with the dumb ass for a little bit.