What happened to the discipline that Marines are bred with? Where has it gone?

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:54:22 -0500

Response by SFC James Baber made Dec 14 at 2013 9:22 AM

SFC James Baber — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:22:42 -0500

CPL,

First I must apologize that none of your fellow Marines have not felt the need to respond to your legitimate questioned post, even if it was to vote it down or disagree with you, it deserves at least a response from a senior member.

I hope you will have a enjoyable holiday season whether ate home or abroad, thank you for posting , take care and stay safe.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2014 7:30 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 19:30:25 -0400

Your question is rather vague yet bold at the same time brother. It's a question that is expansive amongst now not only 1, or even only two generations. Your question is in fact so large that it's hard for anyone to sum up in one 'blog' or /vent rage if you will. You, we, are handling the future. Right now, in our hands, IS the future of the USMC. If you don't like it, change the Marines under your charge. Discipline them. Moreover, EDUCATE THEM. Failing to educate a marine is failing Marines in general. Getting a bit off topic... I will wrap up with this;
If you feel Marines are no longer as disciplined as we as a whole once were, discipline them yourself with peer support, the appropiate way. Uphold the VERY high standards that we as NCOs MUST enforce to maintain order. Maintenance of order and morale will lead to a well disciplined Marine/troop. If the troop is not getting with the program, show them the door. A personal favorite Major of mine has a self infamous quote in the shop, "Man the fuck up, or get the fuck out". Sure, it's a little blunt and rough around the edges but if you look at it deeply, it's quite true.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 5:47 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:47:41 -0500

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member , as NCOs in the United States Marine Corps, it is our duty to ensure the proper training of our Marines. Not only in our job field but as Marines in general and that includes ensuring they have discipline as well as the 14 leadership traits and the core values. Training and molding don't stop at the parade field. They continue through the career of all Marines.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Nov 14 at 2014 6:29 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:29:05 -0500

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member I know this was posted about a year ago and you likely have a different perspective than when you posted it. I'm curious how connected it was to the Commandant's (at the time) re-awakening message. Other Marines, including the SgtMaj of the Marine Corps and the Commandant himself agreed with you that discipline as slipping, and charged all of us, but especially Cpls and Sgts to stem the tide. Was that connected to your original post? Have you seen improvement since you posted? Have you led improvement since you posted?

http://www.hqmc.marines.mil/portals/61/CMC_letter_to_NCOs.pdf