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I watched the Vietnam war on TV. I have many images that I clearly recall as vivid memories of that war. What image is your most clear memory of that war?
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SFC Charles S.. Burst of Joy - Pulitzer Prize winning photo of POW homecoming. Warmest, Sandy

o http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/coming-home-106013338/
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1LT Sandy Annala Ma'am, yes, that is a very joyful image from that time and you have to love the sheer joy in all of the family's eyes. And talk about a clothing time capsule.
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1LT Sandy Annala, I love your picture, it is images of the people coming home to happy reunions, especially the ones with the POW's returning, that made many of us in this country feel better about the war ending.
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SPC Charles Brown those are some great photos also... I remember watching the Return of all of the POW's on TV and their loved ones running to greet them. Powerful.
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I really appreciate the picture of Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan in what has been called the "Saigon Execution", I took a History of the Vietnam War in college, and learned about the back story of the picture.

The man being executed is Vietcong Nguyen Van Lem, he had just be caught going through Saigon and murdering civilians and families. Gen Nguyen Ngoc Loan took him in the street and shot him. The photographer has since regretted taking and releasing the photo and has even said that:
"Two people died in that photograph: the recipient of the bullet and General Nguyen Ngoc Loan. The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapons in the world. People believe them; but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. … What the photograph didn’t say was, ‘What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American people?’ This picture really messed up his life. He never blamed me. He told me if I hadn’t taken the picture, someone else would have."
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PO2 Ron Burling
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I had also known "the back story" and appreciate the commentary. I first deployed to RVN in '67, returned to CONUS to stay in '69.
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Thank you to those who served in Vietnam. I have always been a Military History nerd, and Vietnam is one of my favorites to learn about. There was a level of character there for those that served during that time; y’all did what had to be done... knowing that no matter what, the media and back on the home front you were weren't going to have the support.
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PO2 Barry Baker
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That picture is also the most memorable to me. It speaks of many things including,
the sudden switch from calm to violence. It shows the brutality of killing and the totality of death. It leaves the observer with shock and a profound sadness in their fellow man.
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SGT Robert Pryor
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SPC (Join to see) - While what you wrote is basically true, it leaves out some key facts:
1) General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan was not in the Military. He was chief of the Vietnamese National Police. So his actions were essentially those of a COP, as a COP, not a Soldier. The media tends to leave that fact out or gloss over it and hope the public does not notice, in an obvious effort to enhance their anti-military goals.
2) Nguyễn Văn Lém was not in any sort of military or national armed forces' uniform, equaling him to a spy, terrorist or common criminal. You just can't go around murdering innocent civilians and claim you're part of a rebellions so it's all good. Otherwise every murderer the would over would use that as their defense. As such, he was not entitled to protections afforded by the Geneva Conventions -- especially in the hands of a civilian, not the military.
3) General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan had just been informed that, in addition to other innocent civilians murdered by Nguyễn Văn Lém, the murderer had just killed Gnberal Loan's friend Lt. Col. Nguyen Tuan, his wife, their six children and Tuan’s 80-year-old mother.
4) Obviously law enforcement officers are not allowed to summarily execute prisoners,, However, I, a civilian killed a murderer, I would not be charged with a crime here in Texas because we are allowed to use deadly force on felons during the commission of a crime (the guy was in the process of going around Sài Gòn murdering innocent people), or fleeing felons. Obviously I'd have told him to run or spit in his face so he flinched -- then blown his ass away. That's why we have such a low crime rate here. Criminals are not coddled as they are in other states. The police, the District Attorney or a Grand Jury would have simply found that, "He needed killing."
5) Nguyễn Văn Lém needed killing.
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There are so many Pictures of the war that resonate in our memories, but some do not go away. One person still makes my skin crawl as she is respected and applauded by so many. "Hanoi Jane" Fonda.

One thing that really bothers me is that students today do not believe these are real pictures, but photo chopped. In case you had never heard or read it, here is the transcript of her radio broadcast of August 22, 1972 from her hotel room:

"This is Jane Fonda. During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life- workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers.

I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.

In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me- the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.

I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam- these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.

I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets- schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system.

As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble- strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly- and I pressed my cheek against hers- I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America's.

One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo- colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist. I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.

But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created- being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools- the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders- and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism- I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh."
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Gee Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Our fantastic Sec. State who so totally represents the people of the, well where is that anyway? The infamous Hanoi Jane and Mr. Here take my Medals, I am ashamed of the country I represent.
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CMDCM Gene Treants I am with you on this Hanoi Jane shamed our country and have not appropriately made amends yet. Not sure anything she can do will actually make the grade either.
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Totally agree SPC Jeff Daley, PhD we have slid so low it almost seems as if our president cannot take us lower, then he does.
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Jane Fonda. Don't get me started.
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