Posted on Jul 7, 2016
SSG(P) Motor Transport Operator
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What will happen to SGT(P) career if the unit doesn't have the funds to send soldiers. Especially if they close to their RCP date?
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1SG Patrick Burke
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The unit does not pay for NCOES courses, MTSA funds are used or I may be wrong. Per TRADOC PAM 350-70-9:

MTSA funds are to be used to fund per diem and travel expenses incurred in conjunction with specific Army training and education. HQ TRADOC, DCS, G-3/5/7 is the proponent for these funds and establishes the policy for courses that are authorized funding. That policy follows:
(1) MTSA funds are available for TDY travel and per diem costs for AA Soldiers to attend mandatory and selected duty position-required training and education in conjunction with a PCS (TDY enroute), or in a TDY and return status, only for the courses listed below:
(a) NCOES. This includes Warrior Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, technical courses conducted at the proponent school and TASS battalion locations, and Senior Leaders Course.

In addition, SSGs are priority for ALC, followed by SGT (P), then SGTs.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Thank you 1SG
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Jason McBride
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Thanks for this. I'm a DTS AO for our org and needed this document/paragraph, else we would have paid not only for the rental car but also for lodging. We want the soldier to receive the training they need to succeed but the costs must be allocated correctly.
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MAJ Armored Combat Command Commander
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Jason McBride - Google DTS Smart Book to see if it is beneficial to distribute it to the unit. It really helped my unit and 95% of the calls stopped pertaining to how to use DTS.
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1SG Sma C Student
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1SG Patrick Blue's answer should help you, but additionally, it's all about how your DTS (Defense Travel System) Operator routes the approval process. DTS in a sense, the military's version of Expedia to book lodging, transportation and other incurred Costs during business travel, only difference is DTS allows the routing of who funds those costs... Yes typically when a unit sends soldiers to training they would have to use their units LOA (Line of Accounting) to pay for all of the incurred costs, however as 1SG mentioned, NCOES is MTSA (Military Training Specifc Allotment) funded, in fewer words.. Big army pays for it, not the unit. It is alarming how much those put in the position to run DTS do not know the difference between LOAs or cross organization funding codes... etc. Also most units S-3s schools sections (traditionally) run DTS for schools, however it is on the traveler/soldier to initiate a authorization/itinerary of all of the proposed costs, get in the JFTR (Joint Federal Travel Regulation) to see what is and isn't covered in your travel, could be the difference between you being authorized a rental car for your trip versus taking your POV and being reimbursed for mileage.
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SFC Clinops
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SFC Castro, as long as DTS has been around I am still always surprised when I see a manual 1610. And I see them A LOT. I don't think Everyone understands it's an operator level initiated function. Even for schools the NCOES sends the student their LOA info and it's scanned in as supporting documents for the RM, BO, G8 to final approve. I think because it's a nightmare for some the manual is the easier route.
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SSG Squad Leader
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NCOES is not paid by the unit when I attended ALC the SGL's explained this to us.
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