SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1698501 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What will happen to SGT(P) career if the unit doesn&#39;t have the funds to send soldiers. Especially if they close to their RCP date? 2016-07-07T23:05:08-04:00 SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1698501

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What will happen to SGT(P) career if the unit doesn&#39;t have the funds to send soldiers. Especially if they close to their RCP date?

2016-07-07T23:05:08-04:00 2016-07-07T23:05:08-04:00 SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1698524

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you registered in Atrrs for the course and Do you have orders 1610 to go? I would talk to your chain of command and see if they could help.

2016-07-07T23:09:36-04:00 2016-07-07T23:09:36-04:00 SSG Roderick Smith 1698542

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Someone correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but NCOES courses don&#39;t come out of your unit budget. <br /><br />Have you been told there is no money?

2016-07-07T23:14:32-04:00 2016-07-07T23:14:32-04:00 1SG Patrick Burke 1698614

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The unit does not pay for NCOES courses, MTSA funds are used or I may be wrong. Per TRADOC PAM 350-70-9:<br /><br />MTSA funds are to be used to fund per diem and travel expenses incurred in conjunction with specific Army training and education. HQ TRADOC, DCS, G-3/5/7 is the proponent for these funds and establishes the policy for courses that are authorized funding. That policy follows:<br />(1) MTSA funds are available for TDY travel and per diem costs for AA Soldiers to attend mandatory and selected duty position-required training and education in conjunction with a PCS (TDY enroute), or in a TDY and return status, only for the courses listed below:<br />(a) NCOES. This includes Warrior Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, technical courses conducted at the proponent school and TASS battalion locations, and Senior Leaders Course.<br /><br />In addition, SSGs are priority for ALC, followed by SGT (P), then SGTs.

2016-07-07T23:35:16-04:00 2016-07-07T23:35:16-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 1699110

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>1SG Patrick Blue&#39;s answer should help you, but additionally, it&#39;s all about how your DTS (Defense Travel System) Operator routes the approval process. DTS in a sense, the military&#39;s version of Expedia to book lodging, transportation and other incurred Costs during business travel, only difference is DTS allows the routing of who funds those costs... Yes typically when a unit sends soldiers to training they would have to use their units LOA (Line of Accounting) to pay for all of the incurred costs, however as 1SG mentioned, NCOES is MTSA (Military Training Specifc Allotment) funded, in fewer words.. Big army pays for it, not the unit. It is alarming how much those put in the position to run DTS do not know the difference between LOAs or cross organization funding codes... etc. Also most units S-3s schools sections (traditionally) run DTS for schools, however it is on the traveler/soldier to initiate a authorization/itinerary of all of the proposed costs, get in the JFTR (Joint Federal Travel Regulation) to see what is and isn&#39;t covered in your travel, could be the difference between you being authorized a rental car for your trip versus taking your POV and being reimbursed for mileage.

2016-07-08T06:55:45-04:00 2016-07-08T06:55:45-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1704535

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How close is close may I ask? The unit doesn't pay for that and are you not hitting the OML via STEP? Also, depending on where you are even though it's not always encouraged you can attempt to walk on just in case someone is a NO SHOW.

2016-07-10T13:51:27-04:00 2016-07-10T13:51:27-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1956888

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unit funds don&#39;t pay for ALC.

2016-10-08T05:24:40-04:00 2016-10-08T05:24:40-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 2025091

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depending on the school and if it is TDY enroute or TDY and return determines who is paying. You will gave to get with your BDE DTS NCOIC and they will/should have A list of all FY17 ATRRS classes that are MTSA funded. If the course isn&#39;t on the list then the unit pays for the per diem for that course.

2016-10-30T12:03:00-04:00 2016-10-30T12:03:00-04:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 2025318

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If your unit is using that as an excuse then they are full of it; could be they don&#39;t want to send whoever they are saying that to in order for them to keep the spot open for someone else.

2016-10-30T13:23:09-04:00 2016-10-30T13:23:09-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2315359

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NCOES is not paid by the unit when I attended ALC the SGL&#39;s explained this to us.

2017-02-05T15:46:52-05:00 2017-02-05T15:46:52-05:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 3795857

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you active duty?

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