When does time in grade start for promotion to 2LT in the Reserves, at commission or when I go to BOLC?

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:19:48 -0400

Hello all! I had a question regarding promotion. I enlisted in 2012 into the Oregon national guard and did about 6 years before joining ROTC. I do not get O1-E pay because I did not have enough active duty time for it. My question is, will my time in grade start at the start once I commission, or does it start when I go to bolc? is it 18 months after you commission as long as you have bolc complete, or 18 months after you arrive at bolc?

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2021 1:39 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:39:28 -0400

Your time in grade starts from the time you commission.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2021 2:12 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:12:08 -0400

Time in grade starts at commission, however your enlisted years of service carry over in regards to pay for time in service, so (6+ years, more if you were SMP during ROTC). I’m in the same boat in regards to not getting the o-1e pay, but being maxed out for years of service is still a solid bump.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Apr 26 at 2021 3:55 PM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 15:55:36 -0400

Yes, your Time in Grade started when you commissioned. Your Time in Service is from the time you signed your first National Guard enlistment. Check your total point count. If you have over 1460 retirement points as an enlisted, you still will qualify as O1E.
The regs say "fully qualified" to promote to 1LT. That would seem to indicate that you will have to complete BOLC before you can promote. That is a separate qualification outside of TIG.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Apr 26 at 2021 5:28 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:28:23 -0400

You need to ask your reserve S1, not here. I commissioned in June and did not attend OBC until Sept and pinned 1LT in March, 18months from the start of my active duty. You are reserves so it will likely be different as it is unlikely you will see 1LT at 18months like we do on the active duty side. Reserves are a bit different and most on here will not have the accurate information you are looking for.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Apr 26 at 2021 6:11 PM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 18:11:19 -0400

Your commission date is the start of your TIG. Used to be for Reserve promotion it was three years time in grade. AUS promotions went from a low of 12 months to a high of 24 months. A friend of mine, back when it was 12/12/12, left AD as a CPT AUS and was a 1LT with 0 TIG in the Reserves.