Which topic is more dangerous: Religion or Politics?

SSG Ed Mikus — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:16:52 -0400

Which topic is more dangerous, Religion or Politics?

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 3:43 AM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:43:17 -0400

Both are slippery topics, although I personally believe that religion often carries more emotion, which passionate arguments generally follow... religion takes the prize.

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made Jun 19 at 2014 4:05 AM

CW2 Joseph Evans — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:05:02 -0400

I think most people can be reasonable on one or the other...
It's the folks that tie the two together that worry me...
Not a big fan of those trying to bring Sharia Law or its "Christian" equivalent to American courthouses.

Really need a both combined option.

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Jun 19 at 2014 5:09 AM

MSG Wade Huffman — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 05:09:01 -0400

I agree with Maj Burns, but only in that it is a close call. I would have to say that politics edges out religion. I think the majority of people, when discussing religion, would ultimately conclude that the other persons view only effects themselves, whereas a differing view on politics can have a direct impact on you should enough others feel the same way.
In the end, both potentially hazardous topics (especially in the wrong environment or context) but I think politics is the greater of the hazards.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 6:40 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:40:06 -0400

When in uniform politics needs to stay out of the conversation, just do your job, I don't need to here your political opinion.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 6:46 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:46:42 -0400

I would say politics, but for a different reason. Like it or not, members of congress and the president are in our chain of command.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 7:34 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:34:19 -0400

Once you get into religion that is where the mud starts to fly especailly in our line of word, because we're the most politically incorrect when this argument comes up

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jun 19 at 2014 7:58 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:58:46 -0400

It's the same either way. Both have people choosing teams and blindly following the party line, even when it's nonsensical or clearly false. When it comes to total death count, I'd call it a draw. The two items tend to pervade each other...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 8:22 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:22:49 -0400

I would say that Politics is the more dangerous topic. I believe it is more polarizing within the ranks due to the advent of social media and the 24hr news cycle. These factors have turned everyone into an "expert" about what is "right" for our country.

Response by CPT Richard Riley made Jun 19 at 2014 9:19 AM

CPT Richard Riley — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:19:47 -0400

I believe, with religion, you have to take an 'it-all-depends' approach because each religion has it's own embodiment and core value that come from how the religion evolved and where it originated. As westerners we tend to look at everything through our perspective of the world which does not necessarily align itself with how the specific religion is practiced.
As others have mentioned before me politics tends to be ideological and muddy. Once you throw in the caveat that chain-of-command is involved it becomes a more contentious issue with a greater down side attached to it.

Response by SGT Eric Lorenz made Jun 19 at 2014 9:27 AM

SGT Eric Lorenz — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:27:10 -0400

Politics will get you in a fight. Religion will get you killed ;-)

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 9:31 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:31:53 -0400

Depending on who your having a conversation with, both! As someone stated already both are very polarizing issues. A lot of people in this day and age do not know how to have a polite disagreement.

While at work, I would say politics and religion should stay out of the conversation unless your giving an information brief on a specific location.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 10:13 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:13:11 -0400

I'd say the most dangerous thing is mixing the two of them. Historically trying to meld the two has gone, how to put it, poorly.

Response by MSgt Lancia Stewart made Jun 19 at 2014 10:33 AM

MSgt Lancia Stewart — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:33:54 -0400

It's been my personal experience that religion is more dangerous. It doesn't come up nearly as much as politics, but when it does...

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jun 19 at 2014 10:58 AM

LTC Paul Labrador — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:58:55 -0400

The one that combines both....

Response by TSgt Chuck Boots made Jun 19 at 2014 11:33 AM

TSgt Chuck Boots — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:33:28 -0400

Both have energized conversations. However I believe that Religion carries more emotion and as such is more volatile.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 11:48 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:48:00 -0400

I say religion, because it can get you killed, even here in America. At the least, it can get you ostracized.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 12:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:02:21 -0400

Religion. Genocide continues to this day in the modern world based on what people believe their 'higher being' has to told them to do.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 12:36 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:36:12 -0400

Most of fight comes from deffent beliefs

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 12:36 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:36:36 -0400

That is a tough call. It may be to close for me to answer.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 12:37 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:37:46 -0400

Based on what I've seen on RP, religion is the prize winner here.

Response by Sgt Joel "Mike" Dunlap made Jun 19 at 2014 12:48 PM

Sgt Joel "Mike" Dunlap — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:48:47 -0400

Both are not easy to discuss with many people.. Its always the quickest way to problems if you mix alcohol, Religion and politics.. Best way to end a party!!! :)

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 2:03 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:03:25 -0400

YES

Response by PFC Nathaniel Culbertson made Jun 19 at 2014 2:55 PM

PFC Nathaniel Culbertson — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:55:59 -0400

personally a mix of both is the most dangerous. i have been in political arguments that could have ended in fights and religion, well there is enough on religion

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Jun 19 at 2014 3:03 PM

CPO Greg Frazho — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:03:33 -0400

I personally have seen and experienced the side effects of organized religion let alone the borderline fanaticism we seem surrounded by today. Politics is bad enough, but when one uses or co-opts the other as high octane, all hell breaks loose.

Response by SSG Rafael Rodriguez made Jun 19 at 2014 3:15 PM

SSG Rafael Rodriguez — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:15:09 -0400

I say it depends where you are, back at home you see stabbings and shootings based on politics, and about religion... you know what happened in 9/11.

Response by MSG Lance Kelly made Jun 19 at 2014 4:56 PM

MSG Lance Kelly — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:56:55 -0400

While serving as an NCO Academy instructor, we went to see some motivational speakers. One of the other instructors pitched a huge fit over the fact that many of these speakers were giving thanks and praise to God. He felt christianity was being forced down his throat. He and several other instructors got into a heated arguement over christianity and his beliefs. During WLC graduations, of which he instructed, always had a prayer in the beginning which bothered him to no end.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 19 at 2014 5:08 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:08:30 -0400

Religion, only because to some people politics is a religion. Both are an unstable bomb about to go off

Response by MSgt Keith Hebert made Jun 19 at 2014 5:38 PM

MSgt Keith Hebert — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:38:23 -0400

Always a lot of emotion involved hard to have a conversation

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 6:37 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 18:37:03 -0400

But mix them together and you have Iraq and we all see how that is going.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 6:53 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 18:53:05 -0400

More have died, shed blood, and got maimed in the name of religion. I'll not point at any one in particular because you probably already know which ones

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Jun 19 at 2014 7:31 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:31:57 -0400

It depends on which one end up being more intense.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Jun 19 at 2014 7:44 PM

SPC Charles Brown — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:44:32 -0400

More people have been killed for their political beliefs. I won't go any farther back than the Communist revolutions in Russia and other European countries of the last century. The purges conducted by Stalin during his tenure as leader of the Communist party killed how many thousand of people? Simply because Stalin was in fear of political overthrow by his "enemies". On the surface the Korean and Vietnam wars were about reunification but, look back at which side was the aggressor in both instances. Yes, I know in Vietnam the war originally started by the French who were trying to reclaim their former colony known then as French Indochina. By the time we (America) became involved actively in Vietnam it had evolved into a war for communist domination with North Vietnam as the aggressive nation. Hitler in Germany tried to make Germany a socialist nation and needed to depose the incumbent government, again politics. His actions after coming to power were to expand his nation in an attempt to gain breathing room. Yes, he was responsible for the deaths of millions of people in the name of religious cleansing, but these actions were all in the name of socialist party politics. So much for my .02.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 8:14 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 20:14:27 -0400

Depending on where you are, Religion IS Politics. Not every country has Separated Church from State

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Jun 19 at 2014 11:28 PM

MSG Brad Sand — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 23:28:46 -0400

In truth, religion is only dangerous when politics...aka politicians...abuse religion for their own gains.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2014 1:32 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:32:15 -0400

Religion. I can put aside political conversation, but when I sit down for a breakfast of Bacon and Eggs there are at least two religions that cannot join me. Where I am willing to put aside my politics I shall NEVER surrender my bacon.

Response by SFC Rich Carey made Jun 20 at 2014 8:35 AM

SFC Rich Carey — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:35:20 -0400

We should talk about religion. We are only on this earth for a short time. When we talk about religion, It isn't about converting somebody on the spot. All you are doing is sharing what you believe. However, I see it a lot, when someone shares something they believe it becomes a contest and a winner take all situation, we become emotional. It isn't a contest. But we do it with everything, which military is better (That is easy U.S. Army), which team is better, which car is better, and so on. Bottomline, we need a mixure of everything otherwise it would become a very boring place.

Response by CW5 Sam R. Baker made Jun 25 at 2014 11:04 AM

CW5 Sam R. Baker — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:04:52 -0400

Wow, talk about a minefield, but lets go with historical perspective I guess. The Crusades and other wars started over religion and today's current conflict absolutely had nothing to do with politics other than the response to what I consider to be a religious attack to start it all.

Response by PO3 Jonathan Cooper made Jun 29 at 2014 5:09 PM

PO3 Jonathan Cooper — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 17:09:19 -0400

I've seen firsthand what can happen, positive or negative, when Religion get politicized, or Politics try to monopolize morality/religion. Neither of the two, individually or combined, can end well. But ultimately it comes down to the people who are using them/combining them and what their intentions are.

Response by CW2 Jonathan Kantor made Jul 12 at 2014 9:22 PM

CW2 Jonathan Kantor — Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:22:53 -0400

Religion hands down. Most people are too stupid to engage in a political discussion without bringing religion into it anyways. And many of those people (In my experience) know less about their own religions than I do, which makes me think that they don't know much about that either... but they sure do get pissed off more about religion than anything else. Aren't we supposed to avoid both topics and just talk about the weather?

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Jul 24 at 2014 12:21 AM

Capt Jeff S. — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:21:13 -0400

Yes. : )~

Response by Sgt Joel "Mike" Dunlap made Jul 24 at 2014 1:09 PM

Sgt Joel "Mike" Dunlap — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:09:27 -0400

Religion, Look at the rest of the world!

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2014 5:00 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:00:01 -0400

I think we are more cerebral about politics and more passionate about religion. As well we are more likely to act out on our passions.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Jul 24 at 2014 5:40 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:40:44 -0400

If any topic get out of hand it could get crazy emotions getting the best of people trying to win or make a point, no one wants to be wrong if he/she likes it or not.

Response by LCpl Rick Ponton made Jul 24 at 2014 7:04 PM

LCpl Rick Ponton — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:04:44 -0400

THE MILITARY!!!!!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2014 9:16 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:16:47 -0400

I would have to go with religion. Politics can be heated but when you have opposing religious views things can get out of control. People generally speaking seem to have a more personal investment in religion. I think probably because it requires a certain level of belief without evidence. Whereas, politics can often be argued with facts and statistics.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2014 4:12 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:12:53 -0400

Which has longer lasting effects to the individual concerned?

Regardless of a person's belief system, the effects of the afterlife and ones stance or defense of it would carry the day at any time.

Politics can surely build up to about the same flash of rage and can sustain riots for some time but in the end, secular politics can only affect the here and now.

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made Sep 13 at 2014 10:51 PM

Sgt Packy Flickinger — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:51:15 -0400

Thats kind of on a par with the chicken or the egg.

I feel people NEED to talk politics. It would be a great help to know the other viewpoints, get info you didn't know and possibly get corrected on things you got wrong (IE anything from the media).

Recently there was a large attack on Fox by the liberal media for their "lies and wrong information". John Stewart even went on a rampage about that.

Gallup did a survey and found Fox was the most accurate and trusted at a mere 24%. 24%!! It was backed up by politifact. Funny, politifact stated Fox was more accurate than the news agencies calling them liars and wrong.

As for religions, more wars were started over religion that anything else. Infact, there may be one or two going on right now somewhere in the world.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2014 3:25 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 03:25:10 -0400

I think they're both equally dangerous. People have been killing each other over both for centuries. People have been getting killed over politics since before organized, monotheistic religion existed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2014 5:34 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 05:34:33 -0400

Religion.....hands down. Why because every time the topic comes up, we resort back to the days of kings & queens where they tried to divide & conquer those who didn't believe in their religion

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2014 7:31 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:31:00 -0400

Religion by far.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 23 at 2014 4:22 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:22:33 -0400

SSG Ed Mikus I will answer in a way that doesn't have a radical blow me up..........religion.

Response by SGT Mark Sullivan made Sep 23 at 2014 11:16 AM

SGT Mark Sullivan — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:16:48 -0400

They are both evil, they both can be radical, they can both trample someones rights

Response by SPC Christopher Smith made Sep 23 at 2014 12:36 PM

SPC Christopher Smith — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:36:17 -0400

Neither, the people holding the conversation is what is dangerous.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Sep 23 at 2014 6:18 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:18:16 -0400

The two combined is the most dangerous of all. Hence, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Response by PO2 Steven Erickson made Oct 17 at 2014 12:45 PM

PO2 Steven Erickson — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:38 -0400

I understand the comments and opinions that religion has caused more wars, massacres, ad nauseam, but I think it still comes down to this thought/belief...

"You/they have something that I/we think I/we should have and you/they shouldn't. Therefore, I/we have a need to take that something from you/them."

Politics, religion, race, ethnicity, economics, land, water, food... whatever. The final "why" is because the depraved nature of man drives us to disregard the humanity of our fellow man.

(And THAT is how you combine Religion and Politics into ONE answer... mwah haa haa)

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Oct 17 at 2014 5:21 PM

SPC James Mcneil — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:21:52 -0400

Both can be volatile, but only if the people talking are so rigid in their own opinions that they refuse to listen to others. I have had many discussions on both politics and religion with people of differing opinions. Not all of them have gone well, but of the ones that have they all have one thing in common. In those, we discussed our opinions with an open mind, and we acknowledged that they were opinions and only that.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Oct 17 at 2014 9:45 PM

SGT Richard H. — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:45:57 -0400

Repolitigionics in general is dangerous as a topic of conversation.

Response by CPT Mike M. made Oct 19 at 2014 12:38 AM

CPT Mike M. — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:38:22 -0400

Everything seems to be fair game on Rally Point!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2014 1:55 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 01:55:08 -0400

Even extremely political people still view politics as a point of view. Many religious people view their religion as an intrinsic part of who they are. In my experience, people are more likely to view a religious debate as a personal attack.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 28 at 2014 8:39 AM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:39:51 -0400

Discussion of religion and politics are now so intertwined, I do not believe there is any difference when it comes to discussing them.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2014 6:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:40:25 -0400

Politics can consist of religion as well as other things. That being said, discussing either can be a quick way to turn an amiable conversation into a tense/angry one.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2014 1:43 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:43:24 -0400

Both are contentious topics that bring out a lot of nastiness. Neither, however, are as contentious as whether or not a 2LT should salute a 1LT!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2014 12:48 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:48:57 -0400

"Today is the day I change someone's religious and political beliefs with a Rally Point argument. I can feel it." -some people... everyday.

Response by SSgt Tyler Mollenhauer made Nov 3 at 2014 4:14 PM

SSgt Tyler Mollenhauer — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 16:14:45 -0500

Not that there aren't violent nationalists there certainly are, but religion can often be used to actually excuse things like violent behavior, censorship, authoritarianism, genocide, etc. Politics and nationalistic movements can inspire violence, but it doesn't excuse it. Too many religions offer excuses on why it is ok to conduct oneself in an immoral manner. It's often hard to distinguish between the religious and political motivations of movements and which is more prominent a reason for their actions.

Response by Cadet 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2014 11:35 PM

Cadet 1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 23:35:24 -0500

hmmm.. people who have died/killed for religion vs. people who have died for politics.

I think it's about a 1-100 thousand ratio throughout the entire time span of human kind.

Response by PO1 Steven Kuhn made Nov 4 at 2014 9:17 AM

PO1 Steven Kuhn — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:17:54 -0500

Religion has been used incorrectly in the past. When religion is used for a growth of man's power it changes from being religion (a closer walk with our creator God) to politics (the manipulation of a population to get what you want. If you are talking pure religion then most religions focus on a personal relationship with God and serving others (ie, the greatest among you must be the servant of all, or no greater love than this that a man shall lay his life down for another...) these are religious principles that can make our politics better. Politics can only make religion worse. There is a religion our there that is more of a political engine than a religion and it is responsible for more deaths and slavery and conquests than all of the wars combined. So, in closing, religious beliefs increase the morality of a society and give you a pool of better political candidates, thus helping politics. Politics can make even religion a ploy for getting the population to do what the people in power want. That is why the freedom of religion is important but the separation of Church and State is a fallacy that never appears in our Constitution but does appear in the "Separatists letters.

r/

Steve

Response by PO3 Camille Romero made Nov 4 at 2014 10:47 AM

PO3 Camille Romero — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:47:09 -0500

I'd venture to say religion. Depending on "who" you are discussing with, both could prove fatal to you (HA!)

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 11:16 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:16:58 -0500

There's a reason that when someone is extraordinarily passionate about something, it is said they are "religious" about it. As a rule, religion cannot be reasoned with...people believe it because they do.

Politics, on the other hand, are usually the result of a person's individual views, and their belief that a political figure represents the same views. Both the individual views, and the degree to which any particular candidate represents those views, are open to discussion.

Except, of course, when people get religious about politics...which is increasingly common in the two-party divisive system we have in the U.S. these days.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 6:31 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:31:23 -0500

Both are equally volatile in discussion because of strong held beleifs. These are the two subjects that cause more separatism in society than anything else.

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made Nov 5 at 2014 6:39 AM

Sgt Jay Jones — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:39:39 -0500

Religion. Is the most dangerous. However, our individual religious beliefs often drive our political beliefs and our political agenda.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 1:05 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:05:52 -0500

Yes

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 1:47 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:47:16 -0500

Religion easily. Why? Because arguing with someone about their religious beliefs goes absolutely no where. It is all based on faith, and there is no changing someones thoughts about faith. It doesn't matter if you make solid, factual statements to someone, because they will ultimately point to their religious literature and pull up a story to defend their ways even if it has no correlation to what they are attempting to say. I am a firm believer in that religion ultimately divides people and destroys any unity among people. It seems silly when you really think about it...that people kill each other and can't get along because of their faith.

Response by LCpl Rick Ponton made Nov 6 at 2014 9:51 AM

LCpl Rick Ponton — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:51:08 -0500

POLITICS MILITARY RELIGION PSYCHOLOGY AND PSYCHIATRY WHIS IS WORSE??? OR BETTER???

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Nov 6 at 2014 12:33 PM

Capt Jeff S. — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:33:09 -0500

Yes. ; )

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 12:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:34:26 -0500

While both hold their own dangers, I say that Religion is the more dangerous of the two. People kill for religious beliefs, where political beliefs not so common.

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Nov 7 at 2014 2:49 PM

LCpl Steve Wininger — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:49:35 -0500

Both can raise anger in the right company. Both are subjects that should not be ignored. I know may think it is taboo to talk about religion and politics, however, in my opinion both are a big part of our culture and should be discussed with an open mind and with respect for others.

Media, especially cable news, make discussing the news like it is a wrestling match. they are not a good example of a rational exchange of ideas.

Response by LTC Scott O'Neil made Dec 5 at 2014 11:59 AM

LTC Scott O'Neil — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:59:41 -0500

In my house both topics are dangerous as my wife and I are polar opposits in these areas.

Response by PV2 Abbott Shaull made Feb 4 at 2015 3:46 PM

PV2 Abbott Shaull — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:46:21 -0500

I didn't vote for either one. What I have observed in the last 25 years in my generation, and generation that followed, and my parents generation. Starting with my Parents generations there were quite a few who just checked out, and figure the government would never do anything that would hurt them. When in fact, we are all responsible, to be involve as much possible to make sure the system works. With my generation even more people don't bother to do anything, yet they all sit around and complain. The next generation is much the same. Then they take Social Media, to complain and wonder why nothing done. It is totally discussing, that so many American who have the Right and ability to go and have Voice heard, believe they don't make difference anymore.

I hear a lot about 'second revolution' that some of these extreme groups keep trying to talk about about as they talk about their Second Amendment Rights, which is exactly why it was included in the Bill Rights to begin with. There are parts of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice that when you compare it language written in the Constitution of the United States and Bill Rights, as well as other Amendments of the Constitution that go against what was intended.

As for Religion and Politics being dangerous, neither are dangerous. What make them dangerous is the fact, that a few people like push their believes upon the majority of the people. We as society have lost the art of compromise, granted no one wants to be the one to give in to anyone group, but when you are trying to build working foundation that can move forward, in which that majority of the people can agree with, then it is good thing. You can't make everyone happy, and the few who aren't happy can alway appeal the law through the means that set out.

As for getting back to original question, it more dangerous to sit here idly by and not discuss them individually or together. To think there was any separation at the beginning is naive to begin with. Looking at the laws of the United States, the Constitutions and the Bill of Rights you can see that Founding Fathers were mainly Christians in large, and the Ten Commandants were basis of the law of the land. In many cultures, Religion and Political/Tribal Leader if they weren't the same person, had a very uncomplicated relationship, that only got complicated when one or the other, would become jealous of the increasing power the other had over the Tribe.

During the Middle Ages and well into this Century, and even today. As well as many Christian Churches, they all send and support Missionaries of some types to spread the word of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit. For two reason, one in order to convert people over to whatever form Christianity they are, and two as you teach people to common religion it makes controlling them with a Central Government much easier. It has been a concept that been known since Ancient times. It why Jews tried to convert the Gentile, and why Muslims try to convert those who don't know they ways of Abraham too. It gets dangerous when when you have you Jew trying to convert a Muslim, or Catholic convert Lutheran, and so on. The three common religions, Jews, Christians, and Muslims all have the basic teachings based in the Old Testaments that are known to Christians, and known to other by other titles. Jews and Muslims believe in Jesus as Prophet, but not as the son of God, so who cares, it is their believe. We all have common bond, we shouldn't be trying to convert each other over small stuff.

Same with Politics, no matter what system you use, or economical system one use, in the end it all the same. The U.S. has a Democarcy in which that everyone who is citizen has the ability to vote, granted at the Federal level it has become Republic, due to the fact the people who get elected have been more accountable to the people paying for their elections than the people voting. That has to change, but until we get the people everywhere to wake up to realize their voices can be heard, and their vote do count. It will never change, until the People realize we own the system, not the 1% who own most of the wealth of nation, and Corporations that moved many of the jobs out of the U.S.

Both issues are worth discussing, they are only dangerous as people want to make them, and people believe them to be.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 9:58 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:58:31 -0500

Religion by far...even if you don't believe. Don't mess with someones fate. they maybe on the edge!

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2015 2:00 AM

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:00:56 -0400

Politics can produce a spirited debate and occasionally some harsh language. Get to talking religion, and you may as well start writing the incident report.

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Jun 30 at 2015 10:01 AM

1LT Aaron Barr — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:01:56 -0400

Politics, at least in this country. No religion can deprive me of my Rights legally; only the government can do that.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 12:30 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:30:00 -0400

religion isn't destroying this country, its all of the politicians, lobbyists, and special interest groups pushing their individual agendas.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Nov 21 at 2016 11:25 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 11:25:19 -0500

Religion is the most dangerous topic because people hold onto it for dear life...

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Dec 22 at 2022 10:39 AM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:39:15 -0500

thanks for sharing

Response by SSgt Stephen Bramham made Dec 22 at 2022 10:46 AM

SSgt Stephen Bramham — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:46:58 -0500

Yes!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2022 2:17 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 14:17:04 -0500

That depends on, Who is saying the words.

Response by Maj John Bell made Dec 22 at 2022 8:24 PM

Maj John Bell — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 20:24:02 -0500

It's not the topic. It the people discussing it who decide if the discussion will go South.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 23 at 2022 7:14 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 23 Dec 2022 19:14:27 -0500

Both can illicit a lot of hate. Politics can cause revolutions. Religion can cause violence.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 27 at 2022 9:46 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Tue, 27 Dec 2022 21:46:33 -0500

In my opinion politics is more dangerous my friend SSG Ed Mikus

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2022 8:21 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 08:21:20 -0500

Religion. All of the competing religions think that their god is on their side. None of the gods have been proven to exist. Folks are willing to use their religion to take away rights from others in the name of their god. In about 20 years, Islam will be the largest religion in the world.