Who PMCS's what vehicle? (ARNG)?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 20:41:22 -0400

I am a regular weekend soldier in the national guard. I'm newly promoted to my E-5 slot as "Detachment motor sergeant." I have an NCOIC but he drills separately from me. When it comes to PMCS everything seems dysfunctional. I would like to think someone belongs to each truck. To simplify, I would like to sign out the truck to that individual, rather than having to find people to PMCS a truck. Therefore, that person would be responsible for their PMCS portion. If someone does belong to certain trucks, how would I find this list?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2023 8:49 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 20:49:34 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member ask them if assignments have been made. Sounds like a logical move on your part.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2023 9:32 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 21:32:07 -0400

The people that need to PMCS those vehicles are the Soldiers that are in the unit those vehicles are assigned to. The unit should, and that word is subjective, have assigned drivers to those vehicles. And that is who should be doing the PMCS during Battle Assembly. Reach out to the 1SG for the vehicles in question and request a list of assigned drivers.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Jul 9 at 2023 10:50 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:50:14 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member The driver! Our Motor Warrant just loved to have me do minor service on “my” 151 Jeep if I hadn’t’ been using a driver!

Response by CSM William Everroad made Jul 10 at 2023 8:34 AM

CSM William Everroad — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 08:34:52 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member, this problem is pretty rampant in Compo II & III. Motor Sergeants come and go and it is tough to keep up on vehicle assignments and Soldiers route and get promoted. This is the same issue with weapons if there is no Armorer/ Supply Sergeant accountability.

The first step is to sit down with the 1SG and highlight the problem and go over the TOE/TDA (FMSWEB). The positions that are slotted as drivers and gunners are identified on the table.

The issue is that if the unit is managing its manning roster, there will be Soldiers assigned to those positions who are not licensed. It is up to the 1SG (or DET NCOIC) to ensure that the right people are in the right slot.

Once this is done, you can begin operators' training to get them licensed (GCSS-A). Once they are complete, they are responsible for the maintenance and operability of that vehicle.

The key is to streamline operator's training (keeping it within regulations), so that you have training going on every BA (rain or shine) in order to keep up.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Jul 10 at 2023 9:56 AM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:56:47 -0400

The vehicles are TO&E to a section. For example, Mess, commo, etc. Talk to the section SGT. If none assigned, get the Section SGT to assign a driver. As for the HQ, 6 CO, 5 XO, 1 , 2, 3, 4 the corresponding Staff Section. Those drivers should be easy to find.

Response by SFC Dan W made Jul 10 at 2023 12:38 PM

SFC Dan W — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 12:38:27 -0400

Talk to your Supply Sgt. Who is signed for each vehicle? The Platoon/Squad SGT should further designate who is the assigned driver/co-driver. We used to stencil their names on the windshield for a bit of pride.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Jul 11 at 2023 9:54 AM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:54:19 -0400

I old and slow. LOL, Just remembered the dispatch sheets. That will show who has been driving the vehicles. Been decades, but I think they are pretty large, and I often saw them on a slanted table in dispatchers office.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2023 10:08 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:08:30 -0400

An MTOE gives paragraph and line numbers for every person and every piece of equipment the unit is supposed to own. That document shows you everything you need to know. If someone is arguing they do not own a vehicle the MTOE will correct them. If someone is claiming a vehicle they do not own, the MTOE will correct that. Your Commander, 1SG, readiness NCO, and supply sergeant know how to access and read an MTOE. All your platoon sergeants and leaders should know as well. After you find your MTOE and figure out how to read it, sit down with all your people and anyone else who will listen and teach them, so they will know what to do when they get into a situation similar to yours.