Why don't we call Ted Cruz his real name?

2016-02-11T00:30:14-05:00

It's only fair if we do. It boggles my mind how someone called Eduardo Rafael Cruz would be totally against immigration reform when he is a immigrant? You were born in Canada and lived there until you were 5 years old. You didn't give up your Canadian citizenship until 2012 when you ran for office. It's like unreal the hypocrisy.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Feb 11 at 2016 12:59 AM

2016-02-11T00:59:26-05:00

Lol, you make me laugh. You need to go back to msnbc.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Feb 11 at 2016 3:04 AM

2016-02-11T03:04:27-05:00

Because Hispanics aren't blowing things up or cutting off the heads of unbelievers?

Just a guess.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 4:46 AM

2016-02-11T04:46:05-05:00

unbelievable

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 7:36 AM

2016-02-11T07:36:02-05:00

Don't worry. If he makes it past the repub primary into the general election where he will need some hispanic support to win, I 'm sure he will start to point out his background more than he does now.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Feb 11 at 2016 8:54 AM

2016-02-11T08:54:59-05:00

If you start a question about names, you should probably get them right. It's Rafael Edward Cruz, as SFC Jerry C. mentioned.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 9:12 AM

2016-02-11T09:12:25-05:00

Truth be told - he's not an immigrant. His father was an immigrant, but that doesn't make Ted one, when one of your parents is an American.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 9:16 AM

2016-02-11T09:16:40-05:00

Because Mexicans didn't fly donkeys, I mean burros, into the World Trade Center.

Response by SFC Justin Scott made Feb 11 at 2016 9:46 AM

2016-02-11T09:46:18-05:00

Okay, I'm not a Cruz fan, but lets be honest here instead of disingenuous. Cruz is not against immigration reform, he's against amnesty for those here illegal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Ted_Cruz_Immigration.htm

Ted Cruz on Immigration; Senators

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 10:06 AM

2016-02-11T10:06:13-05:00

I rarely refer to the former by his real name, let alone one I can print here. But what a ridiculous question which is followed by a diatribe that is totally unrelated.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Feb 11 at 2016 10:33 AM

2016-02-11T10:33:18-05:00

One is a form of name-calling and the other is simply referring to him by the name he has chosen to be known by. As if Barack Obama preferred to be call Bob Obama and had always called himself Bob. His political enemies and those who did not like him might call him Barack Obama, or Obombo Bin Laden out of spite. Trump is called many names on a daily basis by people who do not like him. A person should be referred to by the name s/he has selected and can still be open to name-calling.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 11:12 AM

2016-02-11T11:12:08-05:00

I would imagine that Senator Cruz, like many whose families came from another country, Anglesized his name for the same reason many did - it was easier to assimilate and blend in with their adopted country.
My grandparents emigrated from Germany after WWII. Needless to say, "Von Huepel" drew some fire from those who wanted to continue to fight the war. So, Grandpa Alfred went with Larson. Problem solved.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Feb 11 at 2016 11:26 AM

2016-02-11T11:26:41-05:00

Why did we call the Kennedy's by their nicknames? Ted and Jack? This has to be one of the most inane questions posted so far, or at least in the last 24 hours.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 12:51 PM

2016-02-11T12:51:59-05:00

Well, I have noticed people who are muslim change their name...BARRY SOETORO is now Barack Hussein Obama. I think that is more interesting that Ted.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Feb 11 at 2016 3:03 PM

2016-02-11T15:03:48-05:00

There's been Lew Alcindor, Cassius Clay, Gerald Riviera, and others. Two changed their name due to changing beliefs and the later had a Mom that wrote interesting things on his birth certificate but he then later shifted to Geraldo Rivera with some thinking it was a ploy to garner Latino support. Female lawyers frequently keep their maiden names because that's the legal reputation they started out with. Hollywood back in the day had a large Jewish population. Sam Goldwyn started out as Szmuel Gelbfisz from Warsaw. Lot's of show people got away from Jewish surnames for "American". When I worked at Motion Picture Hospital as a kid, Larry Fine (Louis Feinberg) of the Three Stooges was one of my patients. The other Stooges were Howards (Horwitz). Bottom line, people do things with their names for their own reason for centuries. I don't care what people want to be called. I care about what's in their heart and soul.

Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 3:14 PM

2016-02-11T15:14:30-05:00

Another overgeneralizing and factually incorrect internet meme. Say it ain't so...

But to answer the original question, he is called Ted for the same reason people called Edward Kennedy "Ted," or John Bush "Jeb," or Dwight Eisenhower "Ike" with zero uproar.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Feb 12 at 2016 8:58 AM

2016-02-12T08:58:42-05:00

Others have responded well enough to the idiocy of the meme. I'll address the question of immigration reform. What reforms do you want him to support? Must he think like a certain Hispanic simply because of his father's heritage? Do all Hispanics think just one way? Share the same beliefs? If you are referring to calls for amnesty for trespassers, why would any American who respects the rule of law support that?

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2016 10:39 AM

2016-02-12T10:39:38-05:00

I'd like to think that the average American isn't truly that concerned if the President looks "like them", or has a name that sounds "like theirs". Truthfully, if the POTUS has been named, "Marcus Antoine Washington" and come from South Carolina...I doubt people would've said a thing. I'll go further than the context of this post, and state that if our President had come into office looking to reform health care (without destroying existing plans), improve wages (without shutting small business down), and find a reasonable draw down in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan (without allowing the region to descend into chaos)...while steering clear of some "social" issues, he'd have been received no worse than Bill Clinton. What sets a lot of us on "edge" is that here's a man who while legally an American citizen...was raised apart from American society at large, had parents who embraced economic and social ideals that don't ring true with traditional models, and has promoted social issues that are highly controversial...all while wearing a name that sounds too much like our most recent national enemies. Unfortunately, I think we're about to discover that some of us will be just as wary of the senior-citizen aged white guy who is very likely to win the upcoming election.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Feb 12 at 2016 4:27 PM

2016-02-12T16:27:09-05:00

I'm voting down racially inflammatory remarks.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Feb 12 at 2016 4:27 PM

2016-02-12T16:27:26-05:00

I don't know that Cruz is against immigration reform. He is rightfully against handing amnesty to millions who are illegally in our country. I have a feeling everyone would agree with him if they had spent years and thousands of dollars in legal fees to get their citizenship the legal way or were still waiting their turn.

Response by MAJ F. Patrick Filbert made Feb 18 at 2016 2:38 PM

2016-02-18T14:38:39-05:00

First rule of political memes: they are always incorrect.

Cruz had a Cuban father and an American mother. He was born in Canada which has the near exact same law the US does related to being born there in that you automatically become a citizen. Since Cruz's mother was a US citizen, Cruz is a natural born American by US law. Since no where in the Constitution is the term "natural born" defined, but subsequent legal and SCOTUS rulings have noted that the meaning focuses on the word "born" equating to your parents and not location, Cruz is a US citizen. Any person born overseas who has a parent who is a US citizen is a natural born citizen (I have several friends whose parents, were in the military and stationed overseas and they are not immigrants they are natural born US citizens). The only time you become a naturalized citizen of the US is if you were born in another country and neither of your parents were American citizens; then you apply to become an American citizen and are a naturalized American (which is what my wife is). And why the 'angst" over use of Obama's full name? That is a media trend related to presidents that has occurred since at least JFK. Last I looked, Cruz isn't president and the only reason Hillary gets her whole name stated is because her quasi-feminism demands it since she only added Slick Willie's name to hers.

Response by SSgt Wade Vizecky made Feb 25 at 2016 8:52 PM

2016-02-25T20:52:45-05:00

I've sat on the fence for too long, perhaps out of anxiety in my job search after coming off the road from trucking industry. But it's time to shit, or get off the pot ... I also really appreciated Dr. Ben Carson. While some may have balked over his quieter demeanor, I was confident he could rise to the occasion and contribute toward our national healing. His standings in the polls and primaries, however, propel the impetus to stand up for one of the top three contenders.

I have always been thoroughly impressed by Ted's defense of the Constitution. His nine arguments before the Supreme Court include religious liberties and representing 31 states for the 2nd Amendment, in the Heller Vs. District of Columbia. Rivaling the immense duties as Commander in Chief and chief executive over our exponentially spiraling National Debt -- our next President will also recommend the next Supreme Court Justice to replace our late stalwart Justice Anthony Scalia. This man was so keen to adhere to the Originalist View of the Constitution that he declined to exercise his prerogative views on abortion in order to uphold the 10th Amendment mandate that any authorities not delegated to the Feds by the Bill of Rights, SHALL BE left to the individual States.

In this modern era of relativity, we have lost our keen recollection that Madison, Jay, Hamilton and others erected the Bill of Rights to convince the hesitating Colonies to cast out their doubts and fears to join the War of Independence. I will swear allegiance to Donald Trump, if he wins the election. But I am convinced in my heart and soul -- that Eduardo Rafael Cruz, is the man whom God has chosen to guide this Holy Nation back to it's Historical Roots.

Join me to share this message before the upcoming Primary next week !

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2016 9:21 PM

2016-02-26T21:21:25-05:00

Probably for the same reason we say Ted Kennedy and Newt Gingrich. Because that's how they're known.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 11:06 AM

2016-02-28T11:06:28-05:00

So, his given name is Rafael Edward Cruz. He doesn't use his first name, for the same reason I don't, our fathers have been using it first. I understand that as a child, he answered to Felito, but a diminutive isn't especially appropriate for a grown adult, though that can be cultural as well.