Why would an American resist evacuation?

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 16:44:16 -0400

Much has been said about us bugging out, and many picture Families hunkered down, but is that the case? Deep cover folks not essential to the mission either left long ago, or were ordered to remain for future intel. That leaves contractors and businessmen. It's not a tourist destination, so rule that out. The contractors are often given priority lift organically via corporate jets, so what type of business are the rest engaged in? Many are making major coin from the opium trade, and likely see neither need or wisdom in presenting themselves at HKIA. Time will tell, but this is just food for thought. The forces may have to fight their way out, and American blood has been spilled. No more bloodshed for anyone that chooses not to leave, regardless of nationality or reasoning. IMO.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 4:49 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 16:49:15 -0400

There is a lady there, an American, that runs an animal rescue that places cats and dogs with SMs back in the States. She is refusing to evac until ALL 250+ animals and her staff AND their families (approx 125 pax) are evacuated.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 4:51 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 16:51:48 -0400

I have a retired friend who left in May. She said they saw the writing on the wall and got out of there. I don't necessarily think anyone was "left behind".

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 5:00 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:00:38 -0400

I'm not convinced that everyone there knew how critical this would become and how fast it would happen. And since we're well acquainted with out our government operates, I could totally buy a story in which they were told that there would be time and resources only to find that wasn't the case at all.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 5:08 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:08:33 -0400

from what I understand from what my buddies involved have said, it was basically "drop what you are doing and leave" for the pullout.

Anyone not involved in direct military operations was left in the dark, including our allies.

There is a reason this is a cluster F

Response by Cpl John Mckenrick made Aug 26 at 2021 5:23 PM

Cpl John Mckenrick — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:23:10 -0400

as a MARINE that served in Beirut in 1983, and watched my Brothers Murdered in a terrorist attack ( by the way the same MEU and Battalion that was hit then), how can we continue to support and follow politicians that seem to be so careless and callous with the lives of our Brother and Sister service members and American Citizens ?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 26 at 2021 6:13 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:13:45 -0400

My gut feeling is the Americans stuck in Afghanistan represent many occupations.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Aug 26 at 2021 6:52 PM

CW4 Guy Butler — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:52:54 -0400

Heck - figure it out with hurricanes, wildfires, and floods first. Those are tangible threats with evacuations that get ignored all the time.

“ The US is LEAVING AND YOU NEED TO GET YOUR ASS OUT!” isn’t really a tangible sort of threat people can wrap their brains around. Especially if they’re in the habit of ignoring evacuation orders for things like hurricanes, wildfires, and floods. Especially when it’s been broadcast for 4 months.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 26 at 2021 6:55 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:55:05 -0400

Taliban 1, Joe Biden 0.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Aug 26 at 2021 7:32 PM

SPC Steven Depuy — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 19:32:10 -0400

Dan Crenshaw said today that Americans with afghan families showed up and were told they can leave but their wife and children can’t, so they count them as not willing to leave

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 9:36 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:36:45 -0400

Just a couple months ago our Commander in Chief was saying everything is well in hand. That says everything. All of the questions are moot.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2021 11:16 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 23:16:41 -0400

For the same reason they take a dewormer for livestock to prevent Covid-19. They are STUPID.

Response by LTC David Brown made Aug 27 at 2021 5:16 AM

LTC David Brown — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 05:16:36 -0400

Amercan citizens trying to get to the Airport were physically beaten, had passports taken. American Citizens of Afghanistan origin were refused passage. Not sure how is going to work.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Aug 27 at 2021 10:38 AM

SPC Lyle Montgomery — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:38:17 -0400

Why havent some of the civilians left earlier? You said it right. It's just greed , all for the bucks.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 11:36 AM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:36:12 -0400

The US has not only left our guys behind, but have refused any nationality besides US passport holders to even enter Bagrahm Airport. Combined that with the bombs, it's too easy for the government to wash their hands and walk away. It's truly sickening.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Aug 27 at 2021 11:52 AM

GySgt Kenneth Pepper — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:52:16 -0400

Key phrase "resisting evacuation". That means they could have escaped but chose not to.
It happens all the time with natural disasters. People think that they will be immune to the devastation for whatever reason. Then the shit hits the fan. Next thing you know they are begging for help and claiming to have been abandoned.
I'm not talking about the poor souls we abandoned or who ended up getting snagged by the taliban. They deserve to be rescued, but that will be costly in lives and resources.
For those who CHOSE to stay or wait just another few days to see if the Taliban were going to play nice this time, you made a bad decision that cost lives.

And now we have 13 folded flags. 13 childless Mothers who probably can't catch their breathe right now. Guys who would have been Fathers, Husbands, Senators, Business owners, Doctors, Clerics, etc.,

My contempt for the current administration has never been higher. CJS should be relieved of command for not making the President see what a bad plan was being launched. And POTUS should resign.