Would Vice President Joe Biden be an EFFECTIVE Commander-in-Chief?

2015-07-22T10:37:53-04:00

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 22 at 2015 10:41 AM

2015-07-22T10:41:09-04:00

Hasn't he already said he doesn't want to run though? With the pool of people trying to get on the ticket it's hard to keep straight who is in and who is out.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2015 10:43 AM

2015-07-22T10:43:10-04:00

NO! That's why Obama still holds office. Who in the world would want this man? He is a disgrace.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jul 22 at 2015 10:51 AM

2015-07-22T10:51:37-04:00

Probably not, but he would certainly be no worse than Obama.

Response by TSgt David L. made Jul 22 at 2015 10:51 AM

2015-07-22T10:51:43-04:00

Hahahahaha!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2015 10:56 AM

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I feel like he is a walking real life big bird. that's the nice way of saying he is a big NO in my book because he is a cadidiot

Response by SGT David T. made Jul 22 at 2015 11:05 AM

2015-07-22T11:05:22-04:00

I really have no idea. Too many times in our history has a person rose to the Presidency and despite being seemingly unprepared to handle military matters turned out to be a really good Commander in Chief. The one that sticks out most in my mind is Lincoln. If you compared Lincoln with is counterpart Davis one would think that Davis would have been more effective. The reality was that Lincoln was a far better Commander in Chief than Davis could ever hope to be. The moral of the story is we never know until they assume the role.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2015 11:16 AM

2015-07-22T11:16:56-04:00

Creepy Uncle Joe? Author of the failed 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and numerous other blunders? Yes, yes he would make an awesome Commander in Chief (sarcasm added) ugh, yeah no!
Please see attached YouTube video:
http://youtu.be/ooPzr1vzmGY

Response by SSG Paul Setterholm made Jul 22 at 2015 11:17 AM

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My understanding is that he is very well liked and respected by both sides of the aisle. He does have a lot of knowledge and insight therefore I believe he would be great.

Response by PO1 Brian Schletty made Jul 22 at 2015 11:37 AM

2015-07-22T11:37:18-04:00

Once he declared that Al Qaeda were are friends, and that all military & contractors could come home from Afghanistan, that pretty much did it for me...though I suppose as CIC, he might be a totally different person...don't want to chance it.

Response by SFC Douglas Duckett made Jul 22 at 2015 11:43 AM

2015-07-22T11:43:20-04:00

LMFAO

Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Jul 22 at 2015 12:02 PM

2015-07-22T12:02:27-04:00

SPC Andrew Griffin Honestly I really didn't know much about Joe Bidden, except for the current loss of his son recently. Here is some brackground on him for the record and you reading pleasure:

During his first years in the Senate, Biden focused on legislation regarding consumer-protection and environmental issues and called for greater accountability on the part of government. ‪ In mid-1974, freshman Senator Biden was named one of the 200 Faces for the Future by Time magazine, in a profile that mentioned what had happened to his family and characterized Biden as “self-confident” and “compulsively ambitious”. ‪

Biden became ranking minority member of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary in 1981. In 1984, he was Democratic floor manager for the successful passage of the Comprehensive Crime Control Act; civil libertarians praised him for modifying some of the Act’s provisions, and it was his most important legislative accomplishment at that point in time. Biden first considered running for president in that year, after he gained notice for giving speeches to party audiences that simultaneously scolded and encouraged Democrats. ‪

Regarding foreign policy, during his first decade in the Senate, Biden focused on arms control issues. ‪ In response to the refusal of the U.S. Congress to ratify the SALT II Treaty signed in 1979 by Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev and President Jimmy Carter, Biden took the initiative to meet the Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko, educated him about American concerns and interests, and secured several changes to address objections of the Foreign Relations Committee. ‪ When the Reagan administration wanted to interpret the 1972 SALT I Treaty loosely in order to allow the Strategic Defense Initiative to proceed, Biden argued for strict adherence to the treaty’s terms. ‪ Biden clashed again with the Reagan administration in 1986 over economic sanctions against South Africa; ‪ he received considerable attention when he excoriated Secretary of State George P. Shultz at a Senate hearing because of the administration’s support of that country, which continued to practice the apartheid system. ‪

1988 presidential campaign

Biden ran for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination, formally declaring his candidacy at the Wilmington train station on June 9, 1987. ‪ He was attempting to become the youngest president since John F. Kennedy. ‪ When the campaign began, Biden was considered a potentially strong candidate because of his moderate image, his speaking ability on the stump, his appeal to Baby Boomers, his high profile position as chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee at the upcoming Robert Bork Supreme Court nomination hearings, and his fundraising appeal. ‪ He raised $1.7 million in the first quarter of 1987, more than any other candidate. ‪

By August 1987, Biden’s campaign, whose messaging was confused due to staff rivalries, ‪ had begun to lag behind those of Michael Dukakis and Dick Gephardt, ‪ ‬although he had still raised more funds than all candidates but Dukakis, and was seeing an upturn in Iowa polls. ‪ In September 1987, the campaign ran into trouble when he was accused of plagiarizing a speech that had been made earlier that year by Neil Kinnock, leader of the British Labor Party. ‪ Kinnock’s speech included the lines:
“Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Then pointing to his wife in the audience] Why is Glenys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Was it because all our predecessors were thick?”

While Biden’s speech included the lines:
“I started thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? [Then pointing to his wife in the audience] Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I’m the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?”

Biden had in fact cited Kinnock as the source for the formulation on previous occasions. ‪ But he made no reference to the original source at the August 23 Democratic debate at the Iowa State Fair being reported on, ‪ nor in an August 26 interview for the National Education Association. ‪ Moreover, while political speeches often appropriate ideas and language from each other, Biden’s use came under more scrutiny because he fabricated aspects of his own family’s background in order to match Kinnock’s. ‪ Biden was soon found to have earlier that year lifted passages from a 1967 speech by Robert F. Kennedy (for which Biden aides took the blame) and a short phrase from the 1961 inaugural address of John F. Kennedy, and in two prior years to have done the same with a 1976 passage from Hubert H. Humphrey.‪

A few days later, Biden’s plagiarism incident in law school came to public light. ‪‬ Video was also released showing that when earlier questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school, Biden had stated that he had graduated in the “top half” of his class, that he had attended law school on a full scholarship, and that he had received three degrees in college, ‪ each of which were untrue or exaggerations of his actual record. ‪

The Kinnock and school revelations were magnified by the limited amount of other news about the nomination race at the time, ‪ when most of the public were not yet paying attention to any of the campaigns; Biden thus fell into what The Washington Post writer Paul Taylor described as that year’s trend, a “trial by media ordeal”. ‪ Biden lacked a strong demographic or political group of support to help him survive the crisis. ‪ He withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by “the exaggerated shadow” of his past mistakes. ‪

After Biden withdrew from the race, it was revealed that the Dukakis campaign had secretly made a video highlighting the Biden–Kinnock comparison and distributed it to news outlets. Later in 1987, the Delaware Supreme Court’s Board of Professional Responsibility cleared Biden of the law school plagiarism charges regarding his standing as a lawyer, saying Biden had “not violated any rules”. ‪

In February 1988, after suffering from several episodes of increasingly severe neck pain, Biden was taken by long-distance ambulance to Walter Reed Army Medical Center and given lifesaving surgery to correct an intracranial berry aneurysm that had begun leaking; ‪ the situation was serious enough that a priest had administered last rites at the hospital.‪ While recuperating, he suffered a pulmonary embolism, which represented a major complication.‪ Another operation to repair a second aneurysm, which had caused no symptoms but was also at risk from bursting, was performed in May 1988.‪ The hospitalization and recovery kept Biden from his duties in the U.S. Senate for seven months.‪ Biden has had no recurrences or effects from the aneurysms since then.‪ In retrospect, Biden’s family came to believe that the early end to his presidential campaign had been a blessing in disguise, for had he still been campaigning in the midst of the primaries in early 1988, he might well have not have stopped to seek medical attention and the condition might have become unsurvivable.‪

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Jul 22 at 2015 12:23 PM

2015-07-22T12:23:06-04:00

With what is running for president now, can he be that bad? If you want to make it a Repub vs. a Dem thing, that's on you to decide. EVERY politician flip flops depending on who's writing the check. Note the lovely amount of "fundraising" and how much these dinners cost. Also note how certain businesses can get a "private audience" with a candidate, but I can't? I think Joe will be as good or as bad as his internal fortitude allows him to be (same as any other candidate). He already has the inside view and knows how things are (be it right or wrong). He's not a far left or far right on anything, and as far as taking shit from anyone, yes he has had some memorable gaffes, but look at his debating skills from the last election and he cannot be touched. I'm not saying I would vote for him, but he'd be in my short list based upon what's out there now. I see a failing in the candidates as a whole regardless of party where the presidency is becoming a "family affair". Socialism anyone? That is not how it should be. And for some of the others, they seem REAL quick to say send troops to deal with whatever...funny thing is I don't see ANY of their kids in our ranks over there, let alone them personally. I also see candidates who can't make up their minds on anything, have too much or too little opinions on things that matter to the common man/woman, and they still don't make sense, others who are sitting back looking at things not saying anything, and one who questioned Obama's legal status as president due to birth, yet is Canadian by birth and is running himself. If 2016 was the NFL draft, damn near the entire upper draft would all be busts. I'm hoping the long shot wins in 2016 and NO TRUMP! His ego and self value would cause every post/camp/AFB/Ship/Aircraft/PX/MCX/barber shop and weapons system to be named after him. He's funny in an ignorant way, but the sideshow needs to go.

Response by SPC Tony Bucaro made Jul 22 at 2015 12:34 PM

2015-07-22T12:34:02-04:00

Oh HELL NO!! Sorry just my opinion.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Jul 22 at 2015 1:11 PM

2015-07-22T13:11:07-04:00

Define 'Effective'? I think there is a lot of unknowns. I would not be surprised if he rose to the occasion...or that he continued to put his foot in his mouth after that.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Jul 22 at 2015 1:12 PM

2015-07-22T13:12:25-04:00

No. He is wushy washy and how can we trust his words to be his own?

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jul 22 at 2015 4:29 PM

2015-07-22T16:29:58-04:00

Honestly, of the Democratic nominees thus far I respect him the most.

Keep in mind the VP has VERY limited duties from a Constitution standpoint. For the most part, they are elected to balance the ticket, and show up when the President is unavailable. After that, they have to tow party line.

If it came down to him, Ms. Clinton, or Mr. Sanders, he would be my preference.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Jul 22 at 2015 4:32 PM

2015-07-22T16:32:22-04:00

No way. Think about this is a walking trigger in action and word.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 8:20 AM

2015-07-23T08:20:20-04:00

No. He made his millions of the government teat.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 23 at 2015 8:37 AM

2015-07-23T08:37:49-04:00

NO! I think the last effective VP turned President (in my own opinion of course) is in fact the last Vice President to successfully get elected President, George H W Bush.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 11:32 AM

2015-07-23T11:32:46-04:00

Hell no!!!!

Response by SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz made Oct 24 at 2015 1:21 PM

2015-10-24T13:21:53-04:00

Of course... Not!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-10-24T13:26:18-04:00

I hope not. He is an extension of this administration, Howdy Dowdy or CPT Howdy would be an upgrade... lol SSG Matt Murphy SSG Warren Swan SPC Andrew Griffin

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2015 2:10 PM

2015-10-24T14:10:33-04:00

Fortunately, Biden has dropped out. All that is remaining is a self described socialist and a woman who's thesis praised a man who wrote a book promoting marxism and praised Lucifer(Satan) as the ultimate radical.

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made Oct 24 at 2015 4:32 PM

2015-10-24T16:32:40-04:00

This is the same Joe Biden that said all anyone needs for home defense is a double barrel shotgun, and that if you stepped outside and fired both barrels, you would scare off anyone who is threatening you? That Joe Biden?

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 24 at 2015 5:16 PM

2015-10-24T17:16:01-04:00

He would be more effective than any of the candidates currently running...

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 26 at 2015 12:39 AM

2015-10-26T00:39:48-04:00

He's never been right in foreign policy.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2015 8:12 AM

2015-10-26T08:12:12-04:00

we will find out when he become the president ... if he choose to run

Response by James Cramer made Nov 19 at 2015 10:00 PM

2015-11-19T22:00:32-05:00

No way,

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Feb 22 at 2016 8:43 AM

2016-02-22T08:43:10-05:00

I think he can be just as effective as all the other candidates running for office.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2016 9:35 AM

2016-02-22T09:35:09-05:00

I think he would. He's a straight talker and he's been in the thick of things when it comes to national security. Wish he'd ran.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 9:32 AM

2016-03-22T09:32:21-04:00

Uncle Joe? Not a chance.

Response by MSgt David Justice made Mar 24 at 2016 5:58 PM

2016-03-24T17:58:53-04:00

Just as effective as the current POTUS, I would imagine. Meaning, mediocre effectiveness.

Response by SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D made Sep 14 at 2022 4:22 PM

2022-09-14T16:22:05-04:00

EFFECTIVE? The proof has been demonstrated with his catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan. God bless our Service people who were needlessly killed because of his orders and the hundreds left behind to be murdered for aiding us.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2022 4:38 PM

2022-09-14T16:38:52-04:00

He inherited a mess as is the usual when a republican leaves office. High unemployment, etc. He is on a roll right now and there is a blue wave coming in Roevember.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2022 2:16 AM

2022-09-16T02:16:54-04:00

He has done a good job with what he was left with from 45.

Response by SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D made Oct 20 at 2022 2:35 PM

2022-10-20T14:35:07-04:00

NO! Looks like I was correct.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2022 3:43 PM

2022-10-20T15:43:02-04:00

He can't wipe his back side without help

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2022 4:11 PM

2022-10-20T16:11:30-04:00

Dark Brandon has been on a roll lately. Fixing the mess Trump left behind is no easy task and the economy does poorly when Republicans are at the helm. We will be feeling the stupid Trump tax bill for at least 5 more years.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2022 11:16 PM

2022-12-28T23:16:05-05:00

SPC Andrew Griffin saw where you were having difficulty getting back on RP... Let me know if this helps. 12/28-2022

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Dec 29 at 2022 12:32 AM

2022-12-29T00:32:41-05:00

Simple answer: No

Somewhat more complicated answer: How much MORE are you paying for stuff? How many MORE illegal immigrants should be allowed? How many MORE people will DIE from Woke Politics. (And, if you don't think that Woke Politics doesn't actually KILL people, then where were you the summer of 2020?)

Response by MAJ Matt Erlacher made Dec 29 at 2022 9:21 AM

2022-12-29T09:21:06-05:00

I believe his ridiculous performance since becoming CINC has answered this question beyond any doubts.

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Dec 30 at 2022 3:09 PM

2022-12-30T15:09:15-05:00

After two years, what do you think?

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Dec 30 at 2022 10:32 PM

2022-12-30T22:32:31-05:00

NO!

Response by AA Loreen Silvarahawk made Jan 6 at 2023 4:34 PM

2023-01-06T16:34:42-05:00

Biden is not and never could be a good Commander-In-Chief.

Response by CPL Sheila Lewis made Jan 13 at 2023 3:08 PM

2023-01-13T15:08:47-05:00

NO!

Response by PO1 Tom Follis made Jan 30 at 2023 1:33 PM

2023-01-30T13:33:52-05:00

Gee. Did I miss something? I thought he has been the Commander in Chief for the last 2 years? At any rate, IMO, the guy makes a better clown.

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Feb 15 at 2023 10:26 AM

2023-02-15T10:26:29-05:00

The Majority do not want Vice President Biden or one-term twice-failed popular vote loser Trump to run because of the shitshow caused by the last election, but at least we know Biden will remove himself from the seat if he loses the election and not try to overthrow American democracy. It's almost the thing to do for cultist loyalist politicians when they lose an election.

Response by TSgt Karen B. made Feb 16 at 2023 10:46 AM

2023-02-16T10:46:19-05:00

This man is so out of his depth in the office of POTUS. He's made a mockery of our nation. He should be getting treatment for his dementia, not being the puppet running this country.

Response by CPL Larry Frias Jr made Mar 6 at 2023 8:52 PM

2023-03-06T20:52:37-05:00

Hahahahaha !!!!!!!

Response by CPL Larry Frias Jr made Mar 6 at 2023 8:54 PM

2023-03-06T20:54:55-05:00

Besides living in congress for 50 years or whatever …has he ever shouldered a weapon ?????? If not , then he’s a candy ass political cartoon …

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Mar 7 at 2023 5:21 AM

2023-03-07T05:21:48-05:00

SPC Andrew Griffin doing alright in my book with a 8.7% COLA raise, money in the bank.

Response by CMSgt Marcus Falleaf made Mar 7 at 2023 8:06 AM

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Response by SSG William Hommel made Mar 8 at 2023 12:24 PM

2023-03-08T12:24:43-05:00

Well this one aged well. He's more than proven the answer to your question is **** NO.

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Mar 25 at 2023 11:08 PM

2023-03-25T23:08:06-04:00

The very headline is a dogwhistle. GTFOH!

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Apr 4 at 2023 2:10 PM

2023-04-04T14:10:14-04:00

11:05 AM ~ TUESDAY ~ 04/04/2023
Donald J. Trump Is Currently Being Charged & Booked For Felony Charges.
Neither Cuffed Nor Mug Shots Given. Nor Will He Be Put In a Cell As Most People Are.
REASON:? They Feel He'd Use Them By Selling Copies Of The Mug Shots To Raise More Funds.
And As We Already Know, For His Personal Use.
One Of His Comments...."I Can't Believe This Is Happening To Me"....

Response by PV2 Glen Lewis made Apr 30 at 2023 6:48 PM

2023-04-30T18:48:00-04:00

No. He's a joke at President and a bad one.

Response by SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D made Aug 18 at 2023 4:34 PM

2023-08-18T16:34:25-04:00

He can't even remember the name Maui when he tried to mention it with respect to their catastrophic disaster.................Does that answer the question?