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SP5 Dennis Loberger
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My Dad's car was stolen twice when I was a kid by a young teen. I hope we don't automatically assume that all teens steal cars based on that.
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You try to use a simplistic empirical argument to discredit organizations trying to influence our society. I will give you something to chew on and thing about a bit… and by none other than NPR. That is rich.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/964609023/juveniles-part-of-a-huge-increase-in-carjackings-across-the-country
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
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SFC (Join to see) certainly true in Milwaukee
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SP5 Dennis Loberger - Sadly it's becoming more true throughout our entire nation. I do believe it's a function of our families and Christian beliefs being attacked and discredited by Progressives, Communists, and others who wish to see our Country collapse for their own benefit, maybe they are just too stupid to realize the policies they want will collapse our Country. I believe the progressive politicians want our population to depend on them so they can remain in power. When we look at all that goes on from politicians to BLM to many others... it always seems to be power AND money for their leadership (elites if you will).
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This is a single story about two bad actors in a single group.

There is FAR less evidence to support your quoted assertion than there is to support an argument that the Catholic church exists to supply boys for priests.

Such an assertion is wholly and completely unsupported by the evidence at hand.
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SFC (Join to see) What I am saying is that neither this article, nor any other presented by you has shown either a pattern or a proclivity. These are two people out of a much larger group. It is one group out of many. Does it happen with others in other groups? I am sure it does. But there has been absolutely no evidence of such provided. And definitely not evidence to come to generalized conclusions, as asserted by the author and repeated by you.

In contrast, there has been AMPLE evidence provided of priest sex abuse, as well as coverups. Enough to warrant an assertion of proclivity, if not pattern. Now, neither you nor I think this means that priests should be assumed to be groomers or that they become priests so they can have a target rich environment.

Yet there is more evidence of priest sex abuse than LGBT group sponsor sex abuse (at least as of right now - more evidence may come forth).

You have provided anecdotal evidence, and used that to come to general conclusions. This is a big no-no in logical arguments and in reporting. I am simply pointing that out.
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SFC Casey O'Mally - I have to smile because you just don't give up. On one hand you say I don't have enough proof for my statements even though currently LGBTQ+ and Drag Queens are inserting themselves into K-12 education all through our Country... and then you quote relatively isolated incidents of priest abuse worldwide. Considering the number of incidents and people involved I ask for your numbers supporting your statement, and you don’t provide any; you just keep repeating what your saying… without any proof. This “discussion is about homosexuals abusing confused children” and I injected how current LGBTQQ+ folk take advantage of confused children and groom them for their use. This isn't about priests, that discussion and remedy is long past.

I agree to disagree with you. To me it appears you are closing your eyes to the harm that is currently being done to our children and advocated for by many, some even here on Rally Point. We know who they are. All I can say is don’t aid and abide the enemy hurting our children.
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SFC (Join to see) You Made the claim, you provide the proof. That is how it works. One story about two people in one group is not proof.

You prattling on about me not providing proof for YOUR claim is ridiculous.

Note that I have consistently said there is NOT proof for priests to be assumed as groomers - so asking me for proof of something I claim is not true is ALSO ridiculous.

You claim harm is being done to our kids. I don't necessarily disagree. I simply want the evidence to back up your claim.

Rather than provide said evidence you would rather make me that bad guy for questioning your claim.

In general, someone who attacks when asked for evidence does so because they don't actually have evidence and don't want to admit it.
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I provided a prime example of crimes that were committed children. We know more are taking place. “You brought up the question of how many”, so I asked you for your numbers. You gave me none. Here is a site "Diversity and Inclusion: The Presence of Drag Queens in Schools". If you believe this is good for our culture/society... well then that's what you believe. All I can say is talk to your grandchildren or great-grandchildren and listen how this crap is being shoved down their throats. From what my grandchildren tell me it's the weak-minded children who have a poor home life that are drawn in the easiest. There is also the cool factor. Questionable teachers push this stuff as being good. Children are impressionable.
https://www.animascorp.com/diversity-and-inclusion-the-presence-of-drag-queens-in-schools/
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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This is a single story about two bad actors in a single group.

There is FAR less evidence to support your quoted assertion than there is to support an argument that the Catholic church exists to supply boys for priests.

Such an assertion is wholly and completely unsupported by the evidence at hand.
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