Posted on Jun 26, 2016
Legal loophole allows companies to fire military reservists who go to war
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Some employers are hung ho for military employees. But, these two employers aren't anything near gung ho about anything but themselves. I don't know where this loop hole came from, but it used to be an employer had to hold your job open if you were activated to deployee.
Kevin Ziober was a lieutenant in the Navy Reserve in 2012 when he received deployment orders to Afghanistan. On his last day of work before leaving, dozens of co-workers gathered for a sendoff. There was a cake and balloons. And then, Ziober says, he was summoned to the human resources office — and fired.
Kevin Ziober was a lieutenant in the Navy Reserve in 2012 when he received deployment orders to Afghanistan. On his last day of work before leaving, dozens of co-workers gathered for a sendoff. There was a cake and balloons. And then, Ziober says, he was summoned to the human resources office — and fired.
Kevin Ziober was a lieutenant in the Navy Reserve in 2012 when he received deployment orders to Afghanistan. On his last day of work before leaving, dozens of co-workers gathered for a sendoff. There was a cake and balloons. And then, Ziober says, he was summoned to the human resources office — and fired.
Kevin Ziober was a lieutenant in the Navy Reserve in 2012 when he received deployment orders to Afghanistan. On his last day of work before leaving, dozens of co-workers gathered for a sendoff. There was a cake and balloons. And then, Ziober says, he was summoned to the human resources office — and fired.
Legal loophole allows companies to fire military reservists who go to war
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I have had several Soldiers lose their jobs upon returning home from a Mobilization. One Soldier called me in December to tell me his Company had even removed him from the rolls, and told him he could reapply for any open position. He had to get a temp job until, it was all straightened out. I had him contact the ESGR. He got his job back. I have had other Soldiers not get their jobs back.
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CSM (Join to see), I favor the old days where the employer had to take you back upon your return from active duty. The way the miIitary is treated today makes me wonder why anyone would volunteer for all of that neglect and bad treatment.
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That is why Companies have Lawyers to find those Loopholes. Sad to hear about it affecting our Veterans.
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I guess I worked for a "good" company back in the 80's.
However this Beef Processing company HQed in Iowa, was notorious for canning folks for the littlest thing as we were not a Union plant in Kansas.
I had signed up on Army Delayed Entry in July 1982, not telling my folks as my sister's B-I-L was in Mang. at the same plant. I could just see this little tidbit of info getting back to Human Resource office ending my future plans for employment.
The plant work sometimes 6 days a week, Saturdays production would rotated between 1st and 2nd shifts. I had planned my vacation so that I would have the Saturday off before the start of my vacation. That was the day I dropped my paperwork for Military Leave of Absents.
I got everything filled out the night before and took it all in to HR as there was only one person working Sat. I turned it in at about 1O:3O as the day would end at 14:OO. She signed and stamped all paperwork before looking at it, as I had always try to keep it correctly filled out in the past.
I as if I had hit a hornets nest. My plan for the rest of that day was just not to be found. Plant management was calling my folks and my siblings' houses and the two cafes I frequented trying to find me to have me come back to the plant and ultimately get terminated.
When I had ETSed in Sept of '86, I went back to the plant and was almost welcomed with open arms. In the 4 years I was on LOA-Mil the plant had dropped everyone a $1.25 an hour and all new employees started at just above min wage, and I kept building seniority. I left at 560-ish out of 1200-ish employees on seniority and returned to under a 100. and my Retirement plan kept building also.
I left the plant in '87 to follow my new wife and her unit to Germany in almost the same area I had been stationed previously. That is all another story for another time.
However this Beef Processing company HQed in Iowa, was notorious for canning folks for the littlest thing as we were not a Union plant in Kansas.
I had signed up on Army Delayed Entry in July 1982, not telling my folks as my sister's B-I-L was in Mang. at the same plant. I could just see this little tidbit of info getting back to Human Resource office ending my future plans for employment.
The plant work sometimes 6 days a week, Saturdays production would rotated between 1st and 2nd shifts. I had planned my vacation so that I would have the Saturday off before the start of my vacation. That was the day I dropped my paperwork for Military Leave of Absents.
I got everything filled out the night before and took it all in to HR as there was only one person working Sat. I turned it in at about 1O:3O as the day would end at 14:OO. She signed and stamped all paperwork before looking at it, as I had always try to keep it correctly filled out in the past.
I as if I had hit a hornets nest. My plan for the rest of that day was just not to be found. Plant management was calling my folks and my siblings' houses and the two cafes I frequented trying to find me to have me come back to the plant and ultimately get terminated.
When I had ETSed in Sept of '86, I went back to the plant and was almost welcomed with open arms. In the 4 years I was on LOA-Mil the plant had dropped everyone a $1.25 an hour and all new employees started at just above min wage, and I kept building seniority. I left at 560-ish out of 1200-ish employees on seniority and returned to under a 100. and my Retirement plan kept building also.
I left the plant in '87 to follow my new wife and her unit to Germany in almost the same area I had been stationed previously. That is all another story for another time.
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SSG Timothy McCoy, Wow, you hit it just at the right time. Most folks aren't that lucky. If I read you correctly, you were to come back to work to be terminated, but you deployed, and was welcomed back? That is great. Glad it worked out for you.
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SSG Timothy McCoy
The best part about that time in '86-'87 was that when I wound up in Germany with my wife and her unit, I got my "retirement", or deferred profit sharing, we were able to live on that while D-Mark rate was tubing.
Living off post on E-5 pay was real hard, and making the min payments on all the bill from her previous Ex made it even harder. This SIT allowed us to grow closer, and learn how to stretch a box of Rice-o-Roni into to more than 3 meals.
Living off post on E-5 pay was real hard, and making the min payments on all the bill from her previous Ex made it even harder. This SIT allowed us to grow closer, and learn how to stretch a box of Rice-o-Roni into to more than 3 meals.
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