Posted on Jan 12, 2017
GOP congressman proposes extending legal status to immigrants who join military
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I don't agree with extending this offer to illegals because they are, by law and definition, criminals. However, what do you think about creating a battalion or brigade element similar to the French Foreign Legion? The fees related to visas could be waived, reduced, or reimbursed upon endorsement of an enlistement contract. An enlistment contract could be a minimum of 4 years. After that 4 years citizenship is granted and the enlistee could have the option of either ETSing or re-enlisting and joining the ranks of the rest of the service.
GOP congressman proposes extending legal status to immigrants who join military
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First, tremendously bad idea. We essentially create a training battalion where we train foreigners in our tactics and operations. We create a method for trained potential adversaries to gain trust and then be released into our society. Horrible idea.
Second, any lure that gives legitimacy to illegal immigration is just bait in a trap. Every year untold numbers of women, children, and vulnerable people take the bait. They die on the way. They are taken advantage of by human traffickers. They are trapped by organized crime into lives as sex slaves, drug mules, coerced gang soldiers. Or they are taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers who hire them illegally.
When we hold out the bait of eventual amnesty, legal residence, or citizenship we become the allies of the human traffickers, the ethnic street gangs, and the unscrupulous employees.
Second, any lure that gives legitimacy to illegal immigration is just bait in a trap. Every year untold numbers of women, children, and vulnerable people take the bait. They die on the way. They are taken advantage of by human traffickers. They are trapped by organized crime into lives as sex slaves, drug mules, coerced gang soldiers. Or they are taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers who hire them illegally.
When we hold out the bait of eventual amnesty, legal residence, or citizenship we become the allies of the human traffickers, the ethnic street gangs, and the unscrupulous employees.
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I don't have a problem with "dreamers" earning citizenship following honorable military service, but not for those that came to the U.S., illegally, as adults. I would add that these same folks be required to complete militiary obligations prior to being eligible for other government benefits. (i.e. in-state college tuition, etc)
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Not a big fan of separation by ethnicity or point of origin. If they are going to allow them to serve put them in the main stream so they are fully assimilated and build an American identity. The foreign legion is cool but we don't need one.
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SSG (Join to see)
That's a good point CSM. The idea behind the suggestion is to allow for a period for people to be monitored. Background checks and vetting can only get you so far as we've seen with many cases such as Bradley Manning and the Ft. Hood attack. Those were perpetrated by people who were already citizens here. If you have someone coming from out of the country it makes those processes that much more difficult because it requires communication with other governments. If you're investigating someone from a place like Venezuela, Somalia, or Angola where corruption in the government is rampant, or from a nation we don't have a good relationship with, how can we trust the information? Are we willing to take that kind of risk with the bulk of our assets?
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CSM Richard StCyr
SSG (Join to see) - I had the opportunity to serve with quite a few Soldiers who immigrated to the states from places in Africa and south and central America. Most places the records and record keeping are of questionable quality, what I thought was great was the pride these folks took in studying to be citizens and learning American culture. By having them immersed in the line units they developed friendships and contacts with their new countrymen that end up lasting a lifetime and these are the experiences that they would miss out on being in an outfit like the foreign legion.
As to taking risk with assets, there's no guarantee that Joe the ragman from Brookline who grew up here wouldn't become a looper and start shooting folks. We do a very poor job of teaching the youth American civics anymore and instead the curriculum concentrate on every flaw the nation ever exhibited.
The problem for me is that the folks are undocumented and if they entered illegally in the first place in my mind that demonstrates a propensity to perform other illegal acts because you have to be pretty ballsy to infiltrate another nations borders.
As to taking risk with assets, there's no guarantee that Joe the ragman from Brookline who grew up here wouldn't become a looper and start shooting folks. We do a very poor job of teaching the youth American civics anymore and instead the curriculum concentrate on every flaw the nation ever exhibited.
The problem for me is that the folks are undocumented and if they entered illegally in the first place in my mind that demonstrates a propensity to perform other illegal acts because you have to be pretty ballsy to infiltrate another nations borders.
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