Posted on Aug 17, 2017
Trump’s Embrace of Racially Charged Past Puts Republicans in Crisis
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LTC David Brown - he also mentioned he had a plan of his own during the campaign as well. He stated in press conference in Dec of last stating that he would implement it day one, a couple weeks after he back tracks and says he would work republicans on their plan so which is it?
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Capt Jeff S.
SSgt Gary Andrews This was so hard to read, I had to put waders on to get through it. I'll just inject my comments within the pasted contents so that everything's easy to see in context.
We were talking about the South.....which went solidly red again in this past election.
[That is true.]
Trump won there because he had an "R" after his name on the ballot.
[No. Trump won because Hillary was corrupt and represented a continuation of Obama's egregious fiscal and foreign policy... except that most Americans felt she would be even more corrupt than Obama... assuming that's even possible. If Trump would have run as an independent, he would have split the Conservative vote and ensured an easy victory for Hillary. It's not like he got along well with the Establishment GOP.]
Anyone with an "R" was going to win the Southern states.
[You seem to imply that Southerners are stupid and just vote a straight ticket. That's rather simplistic. Given that both Obama and Hillary alienated Southerners with their derogatory comments about people who cling to guns and religion, etc. and the fact that Hillary was ethically and morally bankrupt, having rigged her own Primary and then was caught cheating in the debates, how would you expect Southerners to vote? ???]
He got elected by narrowly flipping a couple of previously reliable blue states up North......your guess is as good as mine as to what kind of voters, and what issues, flipped those states.
[Three words: Obama's failed policies!]
With regards to racists.......I would say that most racists did vote for Trump, but not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist.
[Did you mean like the racists that voted for Obama simply because he was black? Obama was elected with > 90% of the black vote both times. Please tell me that Democrats aren't racist.]
there just wasn't enough of them to do it on their own. Many of his voters were well meaning, and hoping he could deliver on his promise to get our economy booming again.
[You condescend. Did you really think crooked lying Hillary - who couldn't even keep track of her email and cell phones - was going to get the economy booming?]
When he won, I was hoping he could deliver on that as well. But having watched him closely now for several months in office, I have very little hope he will be successful on any level. [You can thank the Democrats and Establishment GOP for their foot dragging and collusion to stop Trump from succeeding at any cost.]
The GOP had better candidates running.......a few of which I could have supported. [You do realize that both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were not Constitutionally qualified to run for office.]
I think Trump is a huge mistake.
[It's too early to tell. It was a much greater mistake when this country elected a constitutionally unqualified poser who refused to come clean about his sketchy background. It was an even greater mistake to re-elect him when Obama has gone four years without a budget and without vetting himself properly with a birth certificate that wasn't a computer-generated forgery!
The national debt has shrunk for the first time in decades and the press has been very quiet about his successes. The Washington Establishment is more worried about Trump exposing them and eliminating their corrupt influence. It should be intuitively obvious that Trump was going to run into resistance from the start. Trump has been having to negotiate minefields put in place by the Obama Administration. You can't blame him for running into people dead set on preserving the corrupt system they set up that allows them to suck blood from the taxpayers.]
We were talking about the South.....which went solidly red again in this past election.
[That is true.]
Trump won there because he had an "R" after his name on the ballot.
[No. Trump won because Hillary was corrupt and represented a continuation of Obama's egregious fiscal and foreign policy... except that most Americans felt she would be even more corrupt than Obama... assuming that's even possible. If Trump would have run as an independent, he would have split the Conservative vote and ensured an easy victory for Hillary. It's not like he got along well with the Establishment GOP.]
Anyone with an "R" was going to win the Southern states.
[You seem to imply that Southerners are stupid and just vote a straight ticket. That's rather simplistic. Given that both Obama and Hillary alienated Southerners with their derogatory comments about people who cling to guns and religion, etc. and the fact that Hillary was ethically and morally bankrupt, having rigged her own Primary and then was caught cheating in the debates, how would you expect Southerners to vote? ???]
He got elected by narrowly flipping a couple of previously reliable blue states up North......your guess is as good as mine as to what kind of voters, and what issues, flipped those states.
[Three words: Obama's failed policies!]
With regards to racists.......I would say that most racists did vote for Trump, but not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist.
[Did you mean like the racists that voted for Obama simply because he was black? Obama was elected with > 90% of the black vote both times. Please tell me that Democrats aren't racist.]
there just wasn't enough of them to do it on their own. Many of his voters were well meaning, and hoping he could deliver on his promise to get our economy booming again.
[You condescend. Did you really think crooked lying Hillary - who couldn't even keep track of her email and cell phones - was going to get the economy booming?]
When he won, I was hoping he could deliver on that as well. But having watched him closely now for several months in office, I have very little hope he will be successful on any level. [You can thank the Democrats and Establishment GOP for their foot dragging and collusion to stop Trump from succeeding at any cost.]
The GOP had better candidates running.......a few of which I could have supported. [You do realize that both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were not Constitutionally qualified to run for office.]
I think Trump is a huge mistake.
[It's too early to tell. It was a much greater mistake when this country elected a constitutionally unqualified poser who refused to come clean about his sketchy background. It was an even greater mistake to re-elect him when Obama has gone four years without a budget and without vetting himself properly with a birth certificate that wasn't a computer-generated forgery!
The national debt has shrunk for the first time in decades and the press has been very quiet about his successes. The Washington Establishment is more worried about Trump exposing them and eliminating their corrupt influence. It should be intuitively obvious that Trump was going to run into resistance from the start. Trump has been having to negotiate minefields put in place by the Obama Administration. You can't blame him for running into people dead set on preserving the corrupt system they set up that allows them to suck blood from the taxpayers.]
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SSgt Gary Andrews
My goodness, Captain......so Trump was going to run into resistance right from the start? Unlike Obama, who had a wonderful honeymoon and had full cooperation from both side of congress from day 1 and right on through the full 8 years....huh? And the "R" behind Trumps name didn't win him the South? Even though Romney won it, McCain won it, both Bushes won it, Reagan won it, Nixon won it? The one and only thing all of those men have in common with Trump.....is the "R" behind their names. You can't tell me that has nothing to do with how southerners vote, as a group. That may change soon....because the GOP is proving incapable of governing. My opinions expressed were just that....my opinions. But they are based on some personal experience from having lived in the South at one time, and having friends and family still there. I visit periodically......these were not baseless opinions. The voting record of the southern states is a matter of record, my good sir. You can look it up.
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SSgt Gary Andrews
Oh......and Cruz and Rubio were not the ones I was referring to as better candidates.
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Good thing nothing more important than trashing the POTUS around the globe. Particularly if it's a lie.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
Well they have to do something to feel good about themselves, they have live in their bubble.
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LTC Orlando Illi
Newtons Third Law states that "... For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction...." So, given this scientific fact, and the assumption that Liberals believe that by marginalizing Trump their resistance will serve as the predicate act resulting in the return of "... 2016 deplorable voters to the Liberal fold in 2018 and 2020..."; I would like to know how many Trump Supporters will convert from their 2016 deplorable ways to vote for Democrats? After all - why spew all this vitriol and destroy historical monuments unless you have a specific number in mind. So what is is it: 5%, 10%, 20%
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MCPO Roger Collins
Silent Majority Trump Loud Minority, as evidenced by the last General Election and Special Elections.
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Capt Dwayne Conyers
Wikipedia “the yellow kid” CPT Jack Durish for clarification. Just a little abstract history lesson.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Kid
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Kid
The Yellow Kid was the name of a lead American comic strip character that ran from 1895 to 1898 in Joseph Pulitzer's New York World, and later William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal. Created and drawn by Richard F. Outcault in the comic strip Hogan's Alley (and later under other names as well), it was one of the first Sunday supplement comic strips in an American newspaper, although its graphical layout had already been thoroughly...
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