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SrA Marc Haynes
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I think this is a double edge sword. The police need to be responsible for their actions if unlawful.

However so do the civilians, including the parents that are allowing to run around after curfew & a responsible time!
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LTJG Richard Bruce
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Writer is clueless of the everyday risk LEO take. Police are shot eating lunch, or siting in their cars, or ambushed, or hit by drunk drivers, or many other lethal events upon innocent officers. How many dead LEO are acceptable to this writer?
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As with our military, I give the benefit of the doubt to the police until something is proven different. IMV, when a LEO says hop, one should hop. If one thinks that hopping wasn't appropriate, that's what a complaint or a day in court is for. It doesn't get argued and arbitrated on the street. People that think they can argue it and get it arbitrated on the street are wrong ... and may well end up on the wrong end of the barrel of a 9mm. Their bad, IMV. It is not a LEO's responsibility IMV to be able to ascertain whether a weapon is fake ... or real ... or whether the person holding it is sane ... or nuttier than grandma's fruitcake. As long as the citizen acts reasonably and responsibly, that is how the citizen should be treated. If the citizen acts unreasonably or irresponsibly, all bets are off and that person deserves what he or she gets.
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SGT Gregory Lawritson - I've read your response twice now ... and don't take exception to any of it. Thank you for the insight you brought to the topic. In defense of my original comment, poorly stated as it was, what I had in mind in my chained comment was a LEO coming upon someone holding a weapon, not knowing whether it was real or fake, having no or minimal interaction with the individual to assess mental state, and the individual doesn't respond favorably to the LEO's commands and acts in a threatening manner towards the LEO. In short, a situation that exploded ... it didn't unfold. It is irrelevant if, after the fact, it turns out the gun was plastic and the attacker was on drugs or mentally unbalanced. The LEO couldn't have known that with a reasonable degree of certainty as the incident evolved. The point I was attempting to drive home is my belief that in general, LEOs should not take on more risk to show restraint. In my rather one-sided strawman, for the LEO to be attacked by someone with weapon in hand and instinctively fail to respond because he did not know with certainty that the attacker was sane or the gun was real ... would be wrong. That does NOT mean that LEOs should not show reasonable restraint, just that they should not ratchet up risk to do so. In fact, I would think that the objective in most situations would be to minimize risk ... first to bystanders, then the LEO, then to the subject. I didn't see or intuit anything from your comment that suggested increasing risk to the LEO. In fact, as I read it, the restraint and attitude you advocate appear to reduce risk ... of the situation getting out of hand and to the LEO. Again, I thoroughly enjoyed your comment and appreciate your sharing your training and experience with me.
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