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MSgt George Cater
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The comments about situational awareness are valid in all cases, armed or not, but the statement that “there will be plenty of guns on the ground for you to pick up and use. Bringing that pistol out invites an outcome that none of us really want” is simply stupid and contrary to just about any real life civilian encounter imaginable. The battlefield where everyone is armed may have a surplus of weapons once casualties happen, but what conceivable instance is that going to happen on civilian life. You dropping off expired meds at your local PD for disposal when Ahnold walks in to shoot up the place? Only in the movies. If there is need for a gun in you everyday life, you’d better be carrying it and familiar with it, but that in no way minimizes the need for situational awareness or conflict avoidance. IMHO.
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LTC Stephen C.
LTC Stephen C.
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Nicely done, MSgt George Cater.
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MSgt George Cater
MSgt George Cater
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LTC Stephen C.
Thanks much, Sir.
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SFC(P) Senior Special Forces Engineer Sergeant
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I've never been anywhere that I would need a gun where I couldn't obtain one from someone not using it appropriately. I think the point here is that most people prioritize a piece of equipment over their training and mindset. I don't feel the need to carry a gun in a lot of situations, it doesn't mean I don't have one close by just in case.
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SFC Stephen Atchley
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Interesting article and some good points. Thanks for sharing!

I do take exception to this part: "If things get so bad I NEED a gun there will be plenty of them laying on the ground to use."

That may be true in some environments, but equally untrue, in many more. For an SF operative, Superman may be an accurate alternate persona. For many of us, Ralph Hinkley hits closer to home.
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SSG Keith Amacher
SSG Keith Amacher
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Agree what I have always said...
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SSG Robert Webster
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Story has some excellent points. However, please explain why there is a picture of Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap (and other Viet Minh) and members of OSS Special Operations Team 13 (AKA OSS Deer Team) toward the end of WWII. And please do not state that the picture relates to the story without explanation.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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SFC(P) (Join to see) - Really?
And if Georges Clemenceau, Woodrow Wilson, and other allied leaders had not ignored the Vietnamese nationalist during the 1919 Paris Peace Conference, the French Indochina War and the Vietnam War may never have occurred.
Next comparing individuals and teams from the WWII period and 'most modern guys' feeling the need to roll heavy is ludicrous both on the surface and after examination of the facts and evidence of the situation.

You may want to go back and study up on this team and what they really did. I would also recommend that you learn about their mistakes and blunders, especially if you want to claim that they were good at situational awareness. If they were so situationally aware, they probably would not have taken French Lieutenant Montfort with them.
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SFC(P) Senior Special Forces Engineer Sergeant
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SSG Robert Webster - These men went into a semi-permissive and generally hostile environment armed with minimal weapons and their wits. They did pretty well considering. I also don't think any team has ever been able to avoid command dictated staffing or poor choices in advisors.

What facts and evidence? Today or yesterday, a lot of heavy hitter don't roll heavy everyday depending on their operational environment and their constraints.

I guess the real question is, do you get so butt hurt everyday or just a few days a month?
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SSG Robert Webster
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SFC(P) (Join to see) - Butt hurt? How about pulling your head out of your ass and study the subject matter, instead of copping off with bullshit.
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I did. Then gave you a tongue in cheek quip to address the general tone of your response.
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