Posted on Feb 23, 2019
Feinstein's climate change discussion with schoolchildren gets heated
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Senators comments make it clear that Members of Congress represent their ideals, not those of their constituents. She spoke with arrogance, and was combative with the children. These are the comments I found most offensive, and what I heard.
"I've been doing this for 30 years. I know what I'm doing,"
I heard: I know what's better for my constituents than they do. My comment: Length of time in a position, and three decades of failing to fix what's broken, doesn't support the argument that you know what you're doing. It supports the argument for term limits.
Feinstein says. "You come in here and you say, 'It has to be my way or the highway.' I don't respond to that."
I heard: I don't care what you have to say if you disagree with me.
My comment: this isn't how I expect a MOC to speak to children visiting their representative in Congress.
"I've gotten elected. I just ran," she continues. "I was elected by almost a million-vote plurality, and I know what I'm doing. So, you know, maybe people should listen a little bit."
I heard: The number of votes I won by means I know more than you, so your position needs to change. I won by such a large margin that I can speak to children any way I choose.
In the video, Feinstein also asks a girl how old she is as the girl says politicians should listen to the people they represent. The girl replies that she is 16.
A teen stated she should listen to those who voted for her. Feinstein asked her age, and the teen said she was 16.
"Well, you didn't vote for me."
I heard: I know your teachers have taught you that your MOC represent you, but children and teens don't have a vote, so they don't have a voice.
Later, a young woman (I believe she was of voting age) stresses the need for a climate plan with "bold, transformative action," and Feinstein replies, "Well, you know better than I do." (Note: This was a someone who the 16 year old appeared to point to when Feinstein had told her she didn't vote for her, suggesting that person had voted for her).
I heard: Look smarta$$, I just told you I've been doing this for 30 years and that you should listen, as I know better than you.
"So I think one day you should run for the Senate, and then you do it your way. But in the meantime, I just won a big election," the senator adds.
I heard: Look bit@!, I just killed this election, I told you my 30 years hear makes me smarter and know what's best for you. So, you run for office and win, until then, I'll continue with my personal agenda.
"I've been doing this for 30 years. I know what I'm doing,"
I heard: I know what's better for my constituents than they do. My comment: Length of time in a position, and three decades of failing to fix what's broken, doesn't support the argument that you know what you're doing. It supports the argument for term limits.
Feinstein says. "You come in here and you say, 'It has to be my way or the highway.' I don't respond to that."
I heard: I don't care what you have to say if you disagree with me.
My comment: this isn't how I expect a MOC to speak to children visiting their representative in Congress.
"I've gotten elected. I just ran," she continues. "I was elected by almost a million-vote plurality, and I know what I'm doing. So, you know, maybe people should listen a little bit."
I heard: The number of votes I won by means I know more than you, so your position needs to change. I won by such a large margin that I can speak to children any way I choose.
In the video, Feinstein also asks a girl how old she is as the girl says politicians should listen to the people they represent. The girl replies that she is 16.
A teen stated she should listen to those who voted for her. Feinstein asked her age, and the teen said she was 16.
"Well, you didn't vote for me."
I heard: I know your teachers have taught you that your MOC represent you, but children and teens don't have a vote, so they don't have a voice.
Later, a young woman (I believe she was of voting age) stresses the need for a climate plan with "bold, transformative action," and Feinstein replies, "Well, you know better than I do." (Note: This was a someone who the 16 year old appeared to point to when Feinstein had told her she didn't vote for her, suggesting that person had voted for her).
I heard: Look smarta$$, I just told you I've been doing this for 30 years and that you should listen, as I know better than you.
"So I think one day you should run for the Senate, and then you do it your way. But in the meantime, I just won a big election," the senator adds.
I heard: Look bit@!, I just killed this election, I told you my 30 years hear makes me smarter and know what's best for you. So, you run for office and win, until then, I'll continue with my personal agenda.
Feinstein's climate change discussion with schoolchildren gets heated
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OK, let me get this straight. These children came into her office, demanding that she support the Green New Deal plan by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ed Markey, and she said that she can't because there's no way to pay for it, and it's not going to pass the Senate due to the complete lack of Republican support. Then some of the children demanded that she vote for it anyway--and she said no.
There are several issues here. First, as a Senator, she is not supposed to represent the people of her state, she is supposed to represent the interests of the State. This has become somewhat blurred since the passage of the Seventeenth Amendment, but that's her role. Second, you're upset because she's not in the radical socialist camp of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? Am I to understand that you support that plan?
Finally, I think that while Sen. Feinstein is too liberal for my tastes, I'm not going to criticize her for responding to a bunch of teenaged socialists who come into her office and demand that she vote their way or else. I would have been more blunt that she was, and told them to pound sand, and to not return until they either had a viable proposal that: 1) could pass, and 2) could be paid for; or had the votes to get me out of office.
There are several issues here. First, as a Senator, she is not supposed to represent the people of her state, she is supposed to represent the interests of the State. This has become somewhat blurred since the passage of the Seventeenth Amendment, but that's her role. Second, you're upset because she's not in the radical socialist camp of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? Am I to understand that you support that plan?
Finally, I think that while Sen. Feinstein is too liberal for my tastes, I'm not going to criticize her for responding to a bunch of teenaged socialists who come into her office and demand that she vote their way or else. I would have been more blunt that she was, and told them to pound sand, and to not return until they either had a viable proposal that: 1) could pass, and 2) could be paid for; or had the votes to get me out of office.
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I agree 'teenage socialists' the proof is in the pudding the kids are being indoctrinated into thinking the green new deal is worth anything. Let's go back to the failed solyndra, the government putting money in the market for green energy. I believe in green technology on the free market over time as it being considered new tech such as led or solar street lights. The idea that government will force green beurocracy is a farce.
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In response to your question, I don't support the plan at all, nor any socialist agenda, and I vehemently oppose Senator Feinstein, and her gun control agenda.
I believe my BLUF was clear:
1. Members of Congress represent their ideals, not those of their constituents.
2. She spoke with arrogance, and was combative with the children.
I believe there is nothing in my comments that would lead a reasonable person to draw the conclusion that I'm upset because she's not in the radical socialist camp, or that I support the plan. The issue they were discussing wasn't relevant to me, it was her attitude, arrogance, and rudeness, especially to children, and even to the adult. If something specific is unclear, identify what I said, so I can clarify. My comments begin with: "I heard," and "My comment."
I do appreciate pointing out the difference and making me research the role of the Senators vs. Representative, as I viewed both obligated to the people. Although they certainly claim they do, until their constituents disagree with them.
Telling kids to pound sand and come back when they had a plan to fund it would be as appropriate as where her attitude and comments, but your approach to crushing the souls of children is your own (that part was humor). I wouldn't speak to children like that, but adults would definitely be fair game.
I believe my BLUF was clear:
1. Members of Congress represent their ideals, not those of their constituents.
2. She spoke with arrogance, and was combative with the children.
I believe there is nothing in my comments that would lead a reasonable person to draw the conclusion that I'm upset because she's not in the radical socialist camp, or that I support the plan. The issue they were discussing wasn't relevant to me, it was her attitude, arrogance, and rudeness, especially to children, and even to the adult. If something specific is unclear, identify what I said, so I can clarify. My comments begin with: "I heard," and "My comment."
I do appreciate pointing out the difference and making me research the role of the Senators vs. Representative, as I viewed both obligated to the people. Although they certainly claim they do, until their constituents disagree with them.
Telling kids to pound sand and come back when they had a plan to fund it would be as appropriate as where her attitude and comments, but your approach to crushing the souls of children is your own (that part was humor). I wouldn't speak to children like that, but adults would definitely be fair game.
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You had me at term limits.
If there is one thing being mentioned these days that I would go out and campaign for, that is it.
If there is one thing being mentioned these days that I would go out and campaign for, that is it.
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I wanted to hear the attendees answer on how they planned on paying for it.
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