The Supreme Court Just Made It Easier for Police to Arrest You for Filming Them

MSgt C Madd I agree we can disagree. As much as I'm an optimist by nature, I still see too many instances where the police are held to a lower standard in terms of use of force and ROE than the general public (or even Soldiers in a combat zone). That's troubling to me because they are the first line of protection for the general populace, but also the first line of oppression of the general populace.

MAJ Bryan Zeski Agreed to a point. As SunTzu has said,”Every battle is won before it’s ever fought.” Use of Force guidelines and the SCOTUS have made sure police never fight fair. Because of the job they do, usually outnumbered on initial contact, and what police stand for. The Law. An attack on law enforcement shows so little disregard for the rule of law. If an individual is determined to act violently towards law enforcement, how would that individual act towards a civilian?Violent contact with police should never be a fair fight. Again, abuse of power or authority is something entirely different and should be dealt with accordingly.

MSgt C Madd Agreed. I just find it off-putting that while in Iraq and Afghanistan, I had a more strict ROE than most police do. Positive ID of target and threat? That's not something police need. They just need the potential of a threat and to be in fear of their safety. That's backwards to me.

MAJ Bryan Zeski - Jaywalking while protesting may or may not be a Constitutional violation. In some localities a protest may be required to have a permit. In those localities then a protest without a permit is usually considered a breach of the peace which in most places is also a crime, in those types of cases if there is a 'law' on the books for jaywalking then it would not be a Constitutional violation as you are trying to state.

And I'm tracking that the case wasn't about this, specifically, but would likely be used as support in cases like these. Still an erosion of rights.

I actually have to agree with MAJ Bryan Zeski! These types of rulings usually have unintended consequences which is why the unelected supreme court shouldn't be making law with rulings. The congress has sole legislative authority, not the SC. If a rogue cop violates someones Constitutional rights, they need to be held accountable.

Cpl (Join to see) I know it hurts to agree with me. We can fight again on something else later! :)

MAJ Bryan Zeski I don't hate people who lean left, I just can't fathom how they trust their political leaders to be "representative" or trustworthy for that matter. I realize the left feels the same way about the right, but we do share some common beliefs; term limits is one of them.

The biggest thing is safety for all concerned should the subject break free.