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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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I have long been a defender of Bligh...Mr. Christian was, in my estimation, very much the true "villain". The 18th Century is a difficult period to put into context... least of all when regarding naval culture. Bligh may have been a "tyrant"... he may also have had the extreme misfortune of attempting to lead sailors to continue a life of risk, hardship, and privation as compared to one of relaxed sexual morality, ease, and simple freedoms. I once heard a wise man say that one can be ruthless... provided one is skilled enough. In Bligh's case, no seaman can question his legendary skill and leadership in getting himself and the remaining loyal crew of the Bounty to safety in a small boat against the Pacific.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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I see your point, guess I'm 50/50 on this. For sure the youth of today wouldn't last long on an 18th Century sailing ship.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Bligh's story is a remarkable one, once you get into the "weeds" on him. One has to consider the specific period as well-a time rife with revolutionary zeal, "little r" republicanism, and coming on the wings of a protracted international conflict. Men like Bligh were rapidly becoming less politically and socially "relevant"... while the tools and skills of their trade were still in high demand. In my view, this led to somewhat "exaggerated" accounts of tyrannical behavior by those who admired the "romantic" ideal of Christian and his mutiny. I normally despise citing Hollywood, but the film "Master and Commander" contains a wonderful vignette between the characters of "Captain Aubry" and his close friend, the ship's surgeon. An Irishman, the surgeon is a staunch republican... and berates Aubry for his apparent "cruelty" in punishing a sailor who disrespected a junior officer. Aubry goes on to explain that his duty; that of maintaining, "this tiny wooden world" demanded adherence to simple virtues and values... possibly unsuited for more "civilized" circumstances. His wonderful response, "You've come to the wrong shop for anarchy, Brother!" says it best perhaps :)
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Thanks for the history share.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Great history share. For many years the replica of the Bounty used to make the movie was permanently docked in St Petersburg FL. Toured it many times whenever we had friends in town. Think it got sold and then new owners started making cruises to different locations that ultimately led to its sinking during a hurricane.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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That was a very sad loss. I "almost" ended up being on that cruise as a volunteer navigator. In retrospect, I'm very glad my realities didn't permit me to sign aboard for that one.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie Wow, great story and I agree!
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