Posted on Oct 29, 2020

Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated

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Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated

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SSgt Richard Kensinger

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The data presented in the article is precise. The main advantage of the scientific evidence is to reduce error and bias. And BTW even "healthy" folks evidence signs of comorbidity which may not be clinically relevant until death.
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I must respectively say in my opinion there wasn't much science dictated in this article.

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SFC Ralph E Kelley

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One thing I've never said its the Death Counts were inflated.
Only observations I've made is the directives sops to 'protect' the public.
The mandated measures are grossly inadequate.
One thing that has fallen out of the media's expressions is the phrase, "flattening the curve".
We will all get it.
We will all spread it through its 96% surface contact contamination.
Medicine's and care will help, but not prevent all deaths.

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SPC Kevin Ford

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SFC Ralph E Kelley I think that's where we are at now. The flattening the curve was always about not overwhelming the local health care systems until we figured out better ways to treat it or get a vaccine.

It seems that the most dangerous time was right at the beginning where our treatments were ineffective and it was starting to overwhelm the healthcare systems of highly populated ports of entry. It's still dangerous but we are getting better at treating it, so we have that going for us. Even now, if we let it burn out of control we will be back to the overwhelming local health care systems and that will cause a spike in unneeded deaths.

We would be much, much better off if we had been better at slowing the spread at the beginning which would have made it so the geometric progression of the spread was in an "earlier" state and saved a whole ton of lives, but we are where we are.

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LTC Eugene Chu

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Excellent point about how our current health care systems may not have capacity to handle resurgence of COVID

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/what-happens-if-hospitals-reach-maximum-covid-19-capacity/277-de963560-fbae-4e43-bd8c-0684dfe045f5

What happens if Idaho hospitals reach maximum capacity due to coronavirus cases?

“If we have to execute crisis standards then it's a demonstration of the failure of the community," said Saint Alphonsus Chief Clinical Officer Dr. Steven Nemerson.

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The CDC itself admitted that 94% of the touted 2,000+ C19 deaths were not C19 deaths, but were deaths where the deceased only tested positive for C19 and/or had comorbidities that led to their death.

This article argues that the inflated 2000+ death rate is accurate because C19 present in all situations make a death a C19 death. Total fear-porn.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-covid-19-had-contributing-conditions/

94% of Americans who died from COVID-19 had contributing conditions: CDC

Ninety-four percent of Americans who died from COVID-19 had other “types of health conditions and contributing causes” in addition to the virus, according to a new CDC report. Using provisional dat…

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Bingo!

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LTC Eugene Chu

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SSG(P) (Join to see) - COVID-19 is far more severe than flu and vaccines are still in the experimental stage. Shutdowns are about preventing already strained medical systems from being overwhelmed.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/5/5/21246567/coronavirus-flu-comparisons-fatality-rate-contagiousness

Covid-19 is way, way worse than the flu

It’s more contagious, deadlier, sneakier, and more likely to cause chaos.

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LTC Eugene Chu - Hospitals are NOT strained.
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Douglas G Frank

Jerry Smalling forwarded this chart to us. The numbers are correct. And note that they are expressed as percentages. (I don't like showing these numbers as %, but the chart is still useful. I prefer...

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