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You actually sent this to the wrong spot. I think you were trying to send an email or maybe post this to the DAV, this is actually a completely different site called Rally Point. I'm assuming this because you started off your monologue with "To the DAV"... which this is clearly not.

But since you're sharing your prose, I'd like to point out some logic.

1. The peoples house is not supposed to be open to everyone at all hours. There's a difference between redress for grievances and riots storming a building and beating police officers into comas. Perhaps in some alternate universe its OK to steal government property and destroy the offices of congress officials, but that's against the law here. That's not "THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA" lying to us, that's actual people posting videos of themselves doing this.

2. It's not political to ban members from your group who commit federal crimes. In fact, that's pretty good business sense for any non profit that relies on donations to help others.

3. 18 USC Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto....
Kind of like storming the steps of the Capital and stopping the Constitutional process of validating our Electoral College votes? Whether any person agrees with them or not, each state certified its votes in accordance with the constitution. Any attempt to hinder or prevent that outside the law is insurrection or rebellion. Especially when it's a mob.

4. 76 Million Conservative and 30 Million Independent voters do not all agree with you. Almost all the Senators who were going to contest the electoral results changed their mind after the riot. A significant number of conservatives and independent voters and spokespersons disagreed with fighting the election results. Members of the Presidential Cabinet are resigning in protest. Mitch McConnells wife, one of the longest serving cabinet members resigned in protest. You cannot claim the Republican party is united on this, it's heavily fractured with most GOP senators and politicians trying to distance themselves from the riots.

5. You're seeing veterans outed on TV because they were in the Capital building, on CCTV, posting TikTok videos, taking selfies and posing for pictures. It's not as if they weren't there. If you were inside the Capitol building while the police were trying to stop you, that's trespassing and it's illegal.

6. If you choose not to recommend a veteran service who can help a veteran because you don't agree with their political statement, you've just placed your politics above the livelihood of your fellow veteran. I'm sure that homeless vet will sleep soundly on the cold concrete knowing you're not supporting non profit organizations you have a grievance against. That will definitely make that veteran feel warm at night.

7. In no way has DAV "leveraged" anyone's veteran status and used it against them. It's an organization, you don't have a right to be a member and you aren't punished by not being a member.

8. Do you realize the foreign news is reporting we had an attempted coup? Only in America would we call it a "protest" when 8,000 people are led by the outgoing leader to the steps of the Senate and encouraged to storm the halls of Congress, stop Congressional business by force - and not call it a coup.

If you want to gripe to the DAV, write them an email and tell your friends on FB about it. There are just not that many people on here who are willing to pretend that this was not an assault on the core of our democracy. Even Mitch McConnell said that undermining the constitutional process is an attack on the very fabric of our democracy.
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PO1 Todd B.
PO1 Todd B.
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt - My comment was not about JUST that... which I clearly stated as well.. It was about how they did it, the intent politically, and the fact that they should NOT BE involved in punishing anyone for any reason, especially those disabled Veterans that TRUSTED the organization in numerous ways.

I ALSO have issue with the terms some people keep using.. Riots, terrorism, insurrectionists, seditionists, traitors, and of course today from biden another new one, insurgents...

There were THOUSANDS of people at that protest.. A SMALL subset in the hundreds went off on their own. The MAJORITY were and did take NO PART in that. Many of those however, WERE LET INTO the building by TWO Capital Police who even held doors open for them.

My anger is because some of you are BLANKETING EVERYONE into the same group. And all without any due process or actual evidence of what each did individually.

This was not even close to an insurrection or anything of the sort.. and MANY of us that HAVE seen them for real, can tell you that. This was a PROTEST JUST LIKE the HUNDREDS we have all been forced to endure from the left for FOUR YEARS. And yes, s group broke off and damaged property and more and need to be arrested and held accountable. I want the blame game to stop, I want the outright push against others that had NOTHING to do with the other group to stop, I want the censorship to stop and I want the scare mongering to stop.

Even the FBI is now doing it.. This so called declaration of attacks in all 50 states, is BULLSHIT. Why? Because if that were true, is these 'group's had actually posted and discussed ANY such actions AND per the FBI WERE STILL DOING SO, we would have seen screenshots, posts, documentation, pictures and more ALL OVER THE NEWS and TV non stop.. and most likely the FBI would have actually arrested someone by now from the place they supposedly made all these posts and threats.

Add to that, the fact that every major conservative site was taken OFFLINE by all the censorship.. So exactly WHAT site are they supposed using to plan all this and post their threat nows and every day?

Please tell me you are not that brainwashed that you can't see right through this? The FBI along with democrats initiated a REAL coup attempt starting the moment Trump became President.. And if you believe anything that comes from the FBI NOW, you truly have been lost because even common sense should have you questioning everything coming out of that agency now.
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt
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PO1 Todd B. I am just going to say this, I am not the delusional one.
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PO1 Todd B.
PO1 Todd B.
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt - So why refuse to post any facts or evidence to show I am wrong? To convince me my opinion and interpretation is wrong? I don't get it.. I passionately make my argument and I either never get any facts I can actually check to refute what I say or they block me because they don't like what I say.. And to be honest, being censored by a military person here, is not something I would ever have thought would happen.. What happen to opinion, discussion and even argument over things? THAT is what's wrong here and why our Republic will fold and collapse unless SOMETHING changes and does so very soon...
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PFC Donnie Harold Harris
PFC Donnie Harold Harris
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Well JB why don't you send it to them?
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I don’t see the issue. These veterans organizations are stating that they will take action against members who are convicted of crimes related to the riots. They aren’t universally banning people based on video footage. People convicted of federal felonies should be banned from vet-orgs because they have dishonored their oath. Expelling felons is logical nonprofit business policy...
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PO1 Todd B. The DAV is a 501(c)3 nonprofit business. IRS Form 990 for 2018 is attached.

https://www.dav.org/wp-content/uploads/990_2018.pdf
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PO1 Todd B.
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SGM (Join to see) - So what if the tax designation is there, ALL organizations have some category they are placed in. They are not a "business" like you typically think of that makes money and profit.. Tax status is meaningless in this situation and you know it. They are a NON profit organization with representation and access to the V/A facilities, records and more. Their mandate is to REPRESENT and ASSIST other Veterans with medical and other needs as well as moving through the V/A claims system.

Trying to twist this around and beat me over the head with it, is bullshit too. I said what I said, I stand by what I said AND I stand with my oath to the ENTIRE Constitutional process, to INCLUDE DUE PROCESS and INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT BY A JURY OF THEIR PEERS.

And If you and some others don't like that fact, well maybe you need to sit back and rethink things because I sure as hell know exactly what all that means in the oath we take.
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PO1 Todd B. a nonprofit organization is a business. Public, private, and nonprofit organizations have business rules and policies regardless of their mission and/or purpose.

“ A nonprofit organization is a business that has been granted tax-exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) because it furthers a social cause and provides a public benefit.”

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/non-profitorganization.asp
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PFC Donnie Harold Harris
PFC Donnie Harold Harris
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Disturbing view point.
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SGT James Hammons
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Expected! There is no doubt that veterans who participated in the riots will find themselves in trouble with Veteran Organizations. These organization might want to make sure the ones they purge are just the ones that stormed the capital and not the ones that peacefully protested. Free Speech does not allow you to destroy property and commit violence. Organizations will distance themselves from members who riot, as they should.
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