Posted on Aug 18, 2021
Gen. Milley denies intel warned of rapid collapse, says nobody predicted Afghan security would...
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Of course not. Once upon a time, each branch of the US military did its own spying. Who better to observe and understand infantry operations than an Army operative, or naval operations than a Naval operative, etc. But the CIA was formed to save money and "improve efficiency". The problem with the CIA is that it is a bureaucracy and politically active. They are far more concerned with providing intel that supports the dominant political narrative than in taking risks to ferret out the truth. Whereas military intel was based on reconnaissance, the CIA hires foreign nationals to tell them what they want to hear.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney
Right, like there is no bureaucracy or politics being played within the military intelligence services.... you know, where the potential for promotion may hinge on how well the boss likes what he is hearing. Tell me, Jack, what sort of physical reconnaissance would tell you the whole of the Afghan military would dissolve in a week? What would those reconnaissance photos look like? How do you do reconnaissance on an intention, motive, or attitude? I don't believe you understand the nature and purpose of HUMINT.
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1SG Russell S.
The notion that the CIA and especially the NSA were not listening to active radio communication is laughable. Real time live feed imagery is the norm. You do not move that many fighters and vehicles overnight unnoticed to assault a city.
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After reading the article about how the Taliban has basically been paying off Afghan military members or government officials under the guise of "cease fires" the last year and a half - it's pretty shocking there was no intel that they could take over so fast or that the Afghan military or security forces would just fold along with the government. That actually is very concerning that no one had any intelligence that pointed to that as an option, even a slim one, knowing the amount of corruption within the ANA and the Afghanistan government. It makes me wonder is the IC back to the way it was pre-9/11? Not sharing info with each other?
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LTC David Brown
Good comments. I read that they talked about a probability of collapse but nobody expected it that fast.
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SSG Robert Mark Odom it is what it is... whether they were briefed or not. Consider the source... FOX Propaganda Channel.
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LTC Joe Anderson I don't believe thatV.P. Harris is ignorant... youw want ignorant... look at Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
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LTC Joe Anderson
SGT (Join to see) - I would not argue with you about the speaker. But Harris is incompetent and ignorant. She couldn't even win her own state in the Presidential primaries. Her list of accomplishments is quit low. But unfortunately to be a politicians now a days the bar for competency is low.
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PO3 Kevin Stephen
LTC Joe Anderson pretty scary never forget 9/11. can the current administration even vet the ones they bring over? what happens when the Taliban infiltrates the refugees and sets up a cell in America. I am all for bringing the Afghans that worked on the base and hauled our food and supplies to us and served at our DFACs, barbershops, PX I belive they deserve a chance at freedom.
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LTC Joe Anderson
PO3 Kevin Stephen - I totally agree. Vetting all these refugees is going to be a joke. As you pointed out the Taliban will most definitely have operatives mixed in with the refugees. They saturate the refugees with the understanding we'll catch some but not be able to get them all. This will haunt us for years. Many Americans have already forgotten why we were in Afghanistan in the first place.
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