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MSG Greg Kelly
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I have only seen his story on Fox and Newsmax correct me if I am wrong. He is a strong brave man I hope he is making a difference
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I hope he makes a difference also. He speaks common sense amid this crazy world we live in which everyone wants to make excuses for political violence.
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I agree with everything the Pastor in this video says. He is absolutely right. Which is why I find it so hard to understand why so many want to make those same excuses for the violent criminals who mobbed the Capital on Jan 6th. The criminals who rioted in those cities, black or otherwise, lock em up. The criminals who rioted in DC on the 6th, lock em up. Absolutely no difference and for anyone to say otherwise is hypocritical.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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True violent criminals? We have to lock them up. That's the short term solution. Then there is the long term problem that needs to be corrected in places like Chicago. That's to give people better alternatives and opportunity so they don't look to crime and we can keep the number of violent criminals to a minimum.

Now there is another issue, and that's the number of people we lock up in this country. But I don't think that is rooted in locking up violent criminals. That starts at us locking up people for minor offenses and thereby sinking their opportunity to do anything else but future criminal activity.
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What if the people don’t want your alternative? For minor and/or major offenses. We have already found giving homeless free apartments doesn’t stop homelessness.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC (Join to see) - People are the same where ever we go. We have 20% of the world's prison population because of something unique about our governing systems and culture, not because of something unique to the people.

It's not even hard to follow through the cause and effect of what is happening. In the US it is very tough for a convicted felon to get a job or be a productive member of society. I'm willing to bet almost all of us have done something when they were young that could be considered at least a non violent felony at one time or another. If we were locked up for those things, our lives would have gone down a different path and it would have been almost impossible to provide for ourselves or our families leading us to more violent crime to survive.

It's a pretty straight line. People in cities are policed more thus leading its residents being more likely fall into that cycle. Yes, once they turn violent we have no choice but to lock them up, but we are also pushing a lot of people down that path.
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SPC Kevin Ford - Sometimes rural areas are “policed more”. No, I disagree. The police are the “The Thin Blue Line” that holds our society together. There are none better on the face or the world; that you and others can say what you do; riot, burn, loot, and kill, with almost no prosecutions… where the Vice President of the United States takes up a Fund to bail out the people rioting, burning, looting, and killing are proof you are wrong. People in foreign countries often have their hands cut off or are just killed for their transgressions. You wounder why the differences in jail populations. You can’t compare Republics to Communist Nations; well you can but you would just get a false premise on what is happening.

I am sorry, we will just have to agree to disagree.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC (Join to see) - Fair enough. Police are people. No worse or better than people in general. Some are good, some are bad. But that isn't what I'm discussing here, I'm talking at the policy level, not on the level of the individual officers.

Now I can and do compare our incarceration rates vs other first world countries. We are not the only democratic country out there, we are not the only one that has freedom and we are not the only one with a modern and prosperous economy. Europe is full of such countries. We've got another one just north of us to compare to.

We "beat" everyone on this metric. Both as a raw number and as a rate in our population.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/incarceration-rates-by-country
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CPL LaForest Gray
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Public Schools Underfunding:

1.) This is what inadequate funding at a public school looks and feels like — as told by an entire faculty
By Valerie Strauss
February 9, 2018 at 2:47 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/answer-sheet/wp/2018/02/09/this-is-what-inadequate-funding-at-a-public-school-looks-and-feels-like-as-told-by-an-entire-faculty/


2.) How grossly underfunded are public schools?
By Valerie Strauss Email the author
November 25, 2012

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2012/11/25/how-grossly-underfunded-are-public-schools/?utm_term=.83753768f591


3.) THE CONSEQUENCES OF UNDERFUNDING OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

https://uteach.utexas.edu/uteach-blog/consequences-underfunding-our-public-schools

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The funding of Prisons vs Schools :

1.) The states that spend more money on prisoners than college students
By Christopher Ingraham
July 7, 2016 at 9:40 AM

“Prison spending is still a fraction of overall pre-K through 12 education spending: States spend $71 billion on prisons and $534 billion on schools each year. But that combined state and local prison budget is now over an eighth the size of the school budget.Jul 7, 2016”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/07/the-states-that-spend-more-money-on-prisoners-than-college-students/


2.) Education vs prison costs
http://money.cnn.com/infographic/economy/education-vs-prison-costs/



3.) Report: Increases in Spending on Corrections Far Outpace Education
https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/report-increases-spending-corrections-far-outpace-education
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CPL LaForest Gray
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Pipeline to Prison
The pipeline to prison refers to school discipline policies (e.g., zero tolerance) and practices that remove students from learning opportunities (e.g., out of school suspension) and push students out of school (e.g., expulsion, school-based arrest) and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems increasingly for minor offenses and non-violent behavior such as smoking cigarettes, coming to school out of uniform or using a cell phone. Research and data have indicated that racial/ethnic minorities and students with disabilities are disproportionately affected by such policies and practices.

‍Related Terms: 
school to prison pipeline, cradle to prison pipeline, schoolhouse to jailhouse track
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Breaking Schools’ Rules: A Statewide Study on How School Discipline Relates to Students’ Success and Juvenile Justice Involvement

(2011) The Council of State Governments Justice Center and the Public Policy Research Institute at Texas A&M University

SOURCE :

https://supportiveschooldiscipline.org/school-to-prison-pipeline



SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE [INFOGRAPHIC]

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https://www.aclu.org/issues/juvenile-justice/school-prison-pipeline/school-prison-pipeline-infographic



Schools Push At-risk Students Out 
Florida schools still rely on exclusionary discipline.
* Nearly 345,000 suspensions each year in Florida, including more than 100 at the preschool level.

* 570 expulsions

* 7,000 alternative placements

* Florida's black students are 2.5 times as likely to be removed from classrooms as their white peers. 

* Florida’s LGBTQ youth are more than twice as likely to report feeling unsafe at school, being bullied at school and fighting at school than their heterosexual peers. Three of five LGBTQ youth report being disciplined through suspensions or expulsions.

* Florida’s students with disabilities, evidenced by Individualized Education Plans are 2.7 times as likely to be suspended and 17.4 times as likely to be expelled.

Exclusionary discipline marks students as “bad kids"

* School disciplinary history is used in criminal justice and education decision-making, allowing for secondary sanctioning.

* Students are marginalized, and criminalization deepens with each successive sanction.

Law Enforcement Gets involved


* Florida schools referred 13,749 students to law enforcement.
* Florida schools refer students to law enforcement 30% more often than the national average.
* Florida schools are more than twice as likely to refer black students to law enforcement and 3.25 times as likely to be refer students with Individualized Education Plans.
* Law enforcement is nearly 3 times as likely to arrest black students at school and 7.8 times as likely to arrest students with learning disabilities at school.

The Criminal Justice System Pulls Students In


Students pushed out of schools are more likely to drop out.
* Some alternative schools are used to warehouse at-risk students until they drop out or are arrested.

* Not graduating high school is associated with a great risk of future incarceration.

The developmental needs of students in detention or jail are neglected.

* Detention centers and jails are to protect the public. They are ill-prepared to nurture growing minds, teach conflict resolution or other executive functioning skills or to educate their detainees.

* Florida students held in smaller jails have no access to education other than GED programming. Larger jails also fail to provide the legally required education, with some offering only 2 or 3 hours of instruction per week.

Students pushed out of schools are more likely to be arrested.

* Exclusionary discipline puts more strain on at-risk students and their families, further disconnects them from the school environment, and stigmatizes at-risk youth.

* Students not in school because of discipline are more than twice as likely to be arrested.

SOURCE :

https://www.aclufl.org/en/floridas-school-prison-pipeline
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CPL LaForest Gray - You are just outrageous! “Public Schools Underfunding” responsible for all the rioting, looking, burning, and killing that has been taking place by BLM and Antifa. No one grew up in a poorer school than I, we didn’t burn our Borough down. It appears you are a good Marxist.
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CPL LaForest Gray
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“No one grew up in a poorer school than I.”

Yeah I’m leave it there.
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'Cause I Ain't Got a Pencil

In his poem, "Cause I Ain't Got a Pencil," Joshua T. Dickerson describes some of the daily challenges children face through no fault of their own.
By sharing this our hope is adults will think twice and offer help rather than even more hardship.

'Cause I Ain't Got a Pencil

I woke myself up
Because we ain't got an alarm clock
Dug in the dirty clothes basket,
Cause ain't nobody washed my uniform
Brushed my hair and teeth in the dark,
Cause the lights ain't on
Even got my baby sister ready,
Cause my mama wasn't home.
Got us both to school on time,
To eat us a good breakfast.
Then when I got to class the teacher fussed
Cause I ain't got no pencil.
 
By Joshua T. Dickerson

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https://www.protectivebehaviours.org/protective-behaviours-resources-training-room/poems/130-cause-i-aint-got-a-pencil
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