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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Interesting that you would choose George Carlin for your meme. If he were alive, he would be at the head of the anti-vaxx parade, and would be lobbying for unfairly discharged and harassed military personnel to be reinstated and compensated.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - No, he wouldn't.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you my friend MAJ Montgomery Granger for posting the perspective from rumble.com [which I also subscribe to] on Brett Wettstein "Bret Weinstein: A Pattern of Sabotage in the US Military"

Here is a direct link
https://rumble.com/v1r9vv0-bret-weinstein-a-pattern-of-sabotage-in-the-us-military.html
Testimony from
1. John Bowes [who] is a first attendant in the United States Airforce, he is a student F16 pilot who has been grounded over the Covid vaccine mandates.
2. Olivia Degenkolb has been in the US Navy for 20 years as an active-duty service member, she is a foreign area officer, and was selected as the assistant naval designate to Beijing, the department of defense has recently stated that she cannot return to service as an unvaccinated member.
3. Dale Saran is an attorney and a retired major in the Marine Corp, he has been litigating the military vaccination issue for the past 20 years.
FYI Lt Col Charlie Brown MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. SGM Major Stroupe SGM Bill Frazer COL Randall C. 1SG Joseph Dartey 1SG Steven Imerman LTC (Join to see) SFC Boots Attaway Sgt Kelli Mays Sgt (Join to see) MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi MSgt Robert E. M. MSG Darold R. MSG Greg Kelly CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw TSgt David L. TSgt Ken Richter
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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It's their call. They can obey orders and serve, or they can disobey orders and re-enter the civilian world.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Capt Gregory Prickett - You swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and were taught that you may NOT obey an unlawful order. Orders to take an experimental drug were unlawful, and violated not only US Code, but the Nuremberg Code as well. It's not enough to follow orders blindly, one must assess the legal, moral and ethical aspects of any order. Sometimes this analysis takes only a split second, other times it takes research and intestinal fortitude.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sRS1dwCotw

First, the Covid vaccine was not an experimental drug by the time that service members were ordered to take it.

Second, the Nuremberg Code is not law anywhere in the world.

Third, lawyers for DOD and the service branches have assessed the orders, and given the green light. Thus far, the Courts have not prohibited DOD from continuing with the vaccine program, although they have issued injunctions on discharges, which is a procedural matter to maintain the status quo.

Fourth, we certainly don't need you to explain the ramifications of our oath, when it has been shown repeatedly that you don't understand the law, or the Constitution. You repeated references to cases that have been superseded by changes to the law proves that point.

Would you have thrown the same snowflake hissy-fit if you were at Valley Forge when Washington ordered that all Continental soldiers be inoculated by what was a truly experimental process (and remained so until twenty years later)?

Look, I get that you are into QAnon, Anti-vax rhetoric, Trump as the Chosen One, and any number of other false idols. Please try not to infect others.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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What a load of unmitigated QAnon/Antivax BS.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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You of all people, Capt. You should know better. Would you have been a Good German? Following the unlawful or immoral orders of your superiors? There is something seriously wrong with the thinking that one must follow anything told to them. We are trained to follow only lawful orders. How do you explain yourself? The military deliberately mislabeled vaccines to make them appear approved, but they were not. The vaccine still being forced on military personnel is not approved, it is experimental, and therefore may not be forced on personnel. Recall the Anthrax vaccine debacle? Nuremburg much?
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - I believe I would, since the Bundeswehr insists that their soldiers disobey not only illegal orders, but also that "a military order is not binding if it is not 'of any use for service,' or cannot reasonably be executed."

Second, the order to take the COVID vaccine is lawful.

Third, the vaccine is not experimental, and was not experimental at the time DOD issued the order. To say otherwise is a QAnon / Antivaxxer lie.

Fourth, I do recall the anthrax vaccine debate, and the court cases. Do you? The court cases were dropped on appeal, and the military was allowed to continue to vaccinate against anthrax as needed. The vaccine is currently required for personnel assigned to the US Central Command and to those stationed in Korea.

Finally, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the Nuremberg Code is not law anywhere in the world. It's technically no more binding than the Hippocratic Oath. It's an ethical guideline, nothing more.
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