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This is not a debate on our beliefs, rather a discussion. A lot of service members have found their religions or, like me, never saw the need for it. What was the moment in your life that you either became religious or figured out that you did not want/need to be religious. How has your religion shaped you as a person, likewise, how has your lack of religion shaped who you are?
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By reading the Bible, over and over, and seeing the truly vile and evil things that were done at the behest of God, but because he was a so-called deity, it was not only OK, but was supposedly good. That led to a study of other revealed religions, only to find the same type of problem.
I'm sorry, but it's not OK to own other humans as property. It's not OK to discriminate against women. Punishing women for being raped is not OK. Genocide is not OK, nor is human sacrifice. Imposing your religious beliefs on others, at the pain of death for apostasy is not OK.
Secondly, having faith is not a good thing, it is not something to be admired. It is gullibility, the act of believing in something without any evidence to support it.
I'm sorry, but it's not OK to own other humans as property. It's not OK to discriminate against women. Punishing women for being raped is not OK. Genocide is not OK, nor is human sacrifice. Imposing your religious beliefs on others, at the pain of death for apostasy is not OK.
Secondly, having faith is not a good thing, it is not something to be admired. It is gullibility, the act of believing in something without any evidence to support it.
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MSG Brad Sand
Capt Gregory Prickett -
How does it not?, More directly to what I think you are trying to imply, IF we lived in a World where the historiography supported the existences of unicorns and one of the pillars of our culture was based upon a pixie moral social code handed down over millennium the anti-belief would still be part of the individual's World view. Or, I am not ignoring the evidence of unicorns or pixies because it goes against my World view.
How does it not?, More directly to what I think you are trying to imply, IF we lived in a World where the historiography supported the existences of unicorns and one of the pillars of our culture was based upon a pixie moral social code handed down over millennium the anti-belief would still be part of the individual's World view. Or, I am not ignoring the evidence of unicorns or pixies because it goes against my World view.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
MSG Brad Sand - I'm not asking for a hypothetical world, I'm asking for this one. Does your lack of belief in a unicorn affect how you treat others? Does your lack of belief in universe-creating pixies guide your morals? Or does something else guide both, and you really don't consider unicorns and pixies in your world view?
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MSG Brad Sand
Capt Gregory Prickett -
You are not half as clever as you think. First, where do you get to assume I don't believe in unicorns. Second, what does those beliefs entail, IF they were beliefs that were tied to moral codes and commands to love your neighbor, ETC, that disbelief would have an incredible effect upon my World view. Last, your straw man is simply a straw man.
You are not half as clever as you think. First, where do you get to assume I don't believe in unicorns. Second, what does those beliefs entail, IF they were beliefs that were tied to moral codes and commands to love your neighbor, ETC, that disbelief would have an incredible effect upon my World view. Last, your straw man is simply a straw man.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
MSG Brad Sand - well, if you do believe in unicorns, that makes it easier to explain your belief in a god.
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I don't usually participate in religious discussions but, found this one interesting. I believe I have faith however, I am not a big fan of religion. I was raised Catholic and only practiced seriously for a few years pre-teen.
The day I lost "faith" in religion was in 2006 while deployed to Iraq. I read the Quran and was shocked at how closely it followed or parts of it mirrored/mentioned the bible or people in the bible. I started reading about religion, the crusades, the inquisition, etc. etc. I came to the conclusion that religion was found/prcaticed for man to control the masses and gain power for the highest ranking clergy.
There is a lot more to the story but, I don't want to offend anyone or start a crazy thread. I respect peoples right to practice whatever religion they want. I have faith but it's my own faith.
The day I lost "faith" in religion was in 2006 while deployed to Iraq. I read the Quran and was shocked at how closely it followed or parts of it mirrored/mentioned the bible or people in the bible. I started reading about religion, the crusades, the inquisition, etc. etc. I came to the conclusion that religion was found/prcaticed for man to control the masses and gain power for the highest ranking clergy.
There is a lot more to the story but, I don't want to offend anyone or start a crazy thread. I respect peoples right to practice whatever religion they want. I have faith but it's my own faith.
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SGM, this is the thought process that played a part in me losing faith all together a few years ago. The realization that organized religion has the power to control people, and is regularly used to do so, really started to bother me. It's interesting to me to hear from someone who has faith and at the same time feels this way about religion.
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CPT Carrie P. I hear what you're saying. Offend was probably the wrong word to use. I just don't have the time or energy to get into a huge discussion with some zealot with a closed mind....ya know what I'm saying?
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CPT Carrie P. - I know you were but, I am confused now. Whatever, it is probably because I am a mouth breather and fail miserably at communicating...or my sarcasm is so advanced I don't even realize I'm being sarcastic. Or I'm just an idiot.
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MSG Brad Sand
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In reality, every person's faith is there own faith...regardless of religion. Too often, people...usually tied to a religion...want to tie faith to religion. To me, they have overlap but are two separate and distinct things.
In reality, every person's faith is there own faith...regardless of religion. Too often, people...usually tied to a religion...want to tie faith to religion. To me, they have overlap but are two separate and distinct things.
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i had a girlfriend in high school who came from a strict religious household. she was kinda losing her religion but her family was not. long story short i was told i would need to start attending services and bible studies with them to continue seeing her. i did for a while but her father noticed it had no affect on me and i wasn't soaking it in, so to speak. so that ended us. i saw the real negative side to religion because of my bad experience. at that point i had become a bad atheist, an asshole of one. i was rude on the subject, couldn't be told otherwise and i hate that i ever acted like that. now im much more respectful about it all. it took me years to come to terms with the fact that was an isolated incident of a bad experience. but also i had never been involved with religion before then. i learned afterwards the definition of atheism and what it means to be agnostic and many other non religious terms and i found comfort in that .
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